Neotel LTE prices announced

Wow their website is really not user friendly, i can't seem to find coverage anywhere, anyone know anything about where? except that its in gauteng.
 
Wow their website is really not user friendly, i can't seem to find coverage anywhere, anyone know anything about where? except that its in gauteng.

If you order any product then you get to a page where you can fill in your street address details. After that it will show you a coverage map. Just don't zoom in or out because then it doesn't show the coverage.

I also struggled to find it. Don't worry, you don't actually have to order anything. :)
 
On the picture of the LTE router the curtains in the background make it look like it has got two external antennas?

It is the same modem as I received from 8ta for the LTE trial. It does have two external antenna connectors as well as two landline points for connecting normal phones while the telephone lines are aetup with VOIP on the router.
 
what isn't clear to me is if this is aiming to be a best effort ADSL like service or an SLA-esque product. Is there is a SLA on this at all if not then the pricing being cheaper than WIMAX makes sense

@JvZ is LTE a "better" option for "carrier grade" (and I am butchering the term but I think the idea is conveyed) fixed wireless or is it really a case of LTE being a damn good alternative to ADSL in producing broadband to consumers (which includes businesses)?
Firstly, this is South Africa so we'll take anything that can give us some kind of "ADSL-like" service......:)

Secondly, you can configure LTE to give the required levels of service but you want to trade cost with revenue with subscriber base to give the best usage for your spectrum. AFAIK, Neotel's got 2x12 in 1800 so can run a nice service here (peak speeds should be around 60Mb/s - they don't have to share with voice) but it's nothing in comparison to the 60MHz Telkom's got for their service.

With 60MHz you can build a proper DSL-like service, the lucky bastards! :)
 
and if those lucky bastards become held by an MNO would that MNO then be a lucky bastard by association? :)
but this doesn't mark the death of WIMAX for the reasons Bern gave but rather WIMAX have fewer uses and becoming a more niche option - and possibly eventually going the way of OS/2 ...?
 
and if those lucky bastards become held by an MNO would that MNO then be a lucky bastard by association? :)
but this doesn't mark the death of WIMAX for the reasons Bern gave but rather WIMAX have fewer uses and becoming a more niche option - and possibly eventually going the way of OS/2 ...?
Bluntly put; WiMax is dead. It's only a matter of time before LTE replaces it everywhere.

Don't think Telkom Mobile is up for sale, unless you know something we don't? ;)
 
Telkom Mobile is an MNO and Telkom is a bastard is a standard battle cry

Neotel on the other hand ... ;)

Does GSM (as the boss of its family) leave any prisoners?
CDMA2000
WiMax
iBurst
iden
...
 
Neotel Press Release

Neotel today announced that its flagship broadband service NeoBroadband, is now also available over Neotel’s latest LTE network. NeoBroadband powered by LTE, is a fixed wireless solution designed to address the need of the business customer to have business-grade broadband service that provides a fast and consistent user experience for Small and Medium businesses (SMB) as well as large Enterprises. The solution uses a fixed installation to connect business offices via Neotel’s LTE network. The network has been designed to optimize connectivity in order to achieve consistent and reliable connection and speeds. In addition, Neotel’s LTE is unique as it is deployed in the uncluttered 1800 MHz band spectrum and optimised for Internet and data solutions.

Sunil Joshi, MD & CEO of Neotel said “The NeoBroadband powered by LTE brings business grade high speed LTE for the small and medium sized as well as large businesses. Neotel is using its LTE network to deliver efficient, stable, low contention, unshaped and uncapped internet to its business and retail customers as well as for last mile requirements. By using fixed wireless deployment Neotel can optimise the number of connections to each tower thereby delivering better speeds, consistent user experience and minimal disruptions.”

The technology and broadband market in South Africa is worth approximately R5.2 billion in 2013 and growing at 5.5% per year (CAGR). The NeoBroadband powered by LTE service will allow customers to rapidly connect to the world with a high speed, reliable connection. The initial release of the NeoBroadband over LTE, is focused in Gauteng and offers download speeds of 2 Mbps, 5Mbps and 10 Mbps on an unshaped, uncapped package ranging from R999 to R2899 per month. As the network footprint expands, Neotel will offer additional packages as well as make the service available in other regions in a phased manner.

With the addition of NeoBroadband powered by LTE in its product portfolio, Neotel is now uniquely positioned to offer a wide range of broadband services ranging from 1 Mbps up to 100 Mbps using different access technologies such as Fibre, WiMax and now LTE with price performance addressing different market segments and user profiles. Joshi says that “Neotel can offer customers speeds they need on a medium they are comfortable with and at a price point that delivers true value for the service they require. In order words Neotel can deliver a 100Mbps broadband service over fibre to a large business customer having huge data traffic or 10Mbps to a medium sized business over LTE or 2Mbps to a small business over LTE or Wimax or microwave. Neotel is in a unique position to be able to do just that”.

Joshi concludes “Neotel invested approximately R500 million in capex over the course of our last financial year, which ended 31 March 2013 to expand our fibre-optic networks and enhance of our ability to provide leading edge network and data solutions to our business and retail customers in South Africa. Neotel has access to over 15,000km of national long distance fibre and 8,000km in metropolitan areas, which is seamlessly connected to the five undersea cables that connect South Africa to Africa and other geographies. To that end, our investment in LTE network enables Neotel to leverage this infrastructure to deliver world class products and services to the South African market”.

/sends press release back with:

Now please be the SNO that you were supposed to be and:

Expand your network footprint that will offer additional packages as well as make you services available in other regions and not just the Metropolitan areas in a phased manner... pronto.
 
Ok so from the press release it doesn't sound like Wimax is going to be replaced by LTE.

See Jannie's comment
Bluntly put; WiMax is dead. It's only a matter of time before LTE replaces it everywhere.

Don't think Telkom Mobile is up for sale, unless you know something we don't? ;)

Basically Wimax will be used in areas that they haven't got around to upgrading to LTE. So first step is to use the 1800 frequency band for LTE, it is currently used for Wimax. Then later I would guess they will shift the CDMA to an LTE implementation as well.

Remember to run the radios costs money, you need to be able to cover the costs by the number of subscribers. The less frequency allocated per radio means less users per radio or high per user fixed monthly costs. Thus it would not really make sense to try to run Wimax and LTE in the 1800 band simultaneously as it would reduce each of their total throughput.
 
seems interesting but costs and no coverage....
 
The serivce is completely uncapped and unshaped, you'll find that a 10Mb uncapped+unshaped ADSL goes in the region of R2900-R3500 excluding Telkom line rental.

If they can guarantee the speeds this would be a great alternative to ADSL

No?

Excluding line rental you can get a 10Mb unshaped/uncapped account for R999. Including line rental this goes for about just over R1500.

You will be able to get 20Mb VDSL for less then the price of this 10MB LTE account.

This is not a great alternative, its still too expensive. If they double the speeds then sure.
 
So they phoned me this morning and told me LTE is now available.

Must say, a 2 year contract puts me off, and it is too expensive. I'll probably consider their WiMax service rather...
 
No?

Excluding line rental you can get a 10Mb unshaped/uncapped account for R999. Including line rental this goes for about just over R1500.

You will be able to get 20Mb VDSL for less then the price of this 10MB LTE account.

This is not a great alternative, its still too expensive. If they double the speeds then sure.

10Mb uncapped+unshapped 24/7 for R999, where do I sign up?
 
There's still a FUP attached to it, if you constantly download 24/7 you will be throtlled.

If you want uncapped+unshaped with no FUP you're going to spend way more than that.

That's a business account. It's a token FUP.

Why don't you speak to Afriman yourself before you make those generalizations?
 
Afrihost's AUP is pretty clear: shaping is their manner of demand management (with a little bit of help from exchange congestion like everybody else) there business accounts do not shape so it is as close to an uncontended account as you are going to get without entering the big price league. A few things though: It isn't an SLA product and is dependent on ADSL in general so while you are getting damn good value in download ability you are on a best effort product. If you have critical requirements you'll need 3G rollover or to go with a different league of products -- and I don't think the Neotel LTE comes to that league. For an SMME that has major broadband needs Afrihost is probably your best bet.
 
There's still a FUP attached to it, if you constantly download 24/7 you will be throtlled.

If you want uncapped+unshaped with no FUP you're going to spend way more than that.

This LTE offer also has a FUP.

Edit: That ADSL offer from Afrihost is good for over 1TB, so you shouldn't have any issues.
 
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