Neotel LTE prices announced

[Chevron]

Please explain how their LTE utilises such low speeds, and everywhere else in the world speeds are apparently between 50 - 100Mbps ?

I'm sure the capped products will get close.

No one is going to pay for the cost for uncapped 50Mb/s or 100Mb/s which will probably well over R15k per month.

 

[ElecEng]

if the FUP is the same as their fibre products, it basically throttles you if you reach 50% of your theoretical max download capacity. i.e. on a 10mbps connection your theoretical monthly max is (10/8)*60*60*24*30/1024=3164GB hence at around 1582GB they will throttle you to 5mbps and hence you will be able to download another 791GB in that month leaving you with a total of 2373GB for the month.

 

[siraman]

2Mbps at R999/month;
5Mbps at R1,799/month; and
10Mbps at R2,899/month.

And then

134GB at 1Mbps (throttled to 512kbps thereafter)
268GB at 2Mbps (throttled to 1Mbps thereafter)
671GB at 5Mbps (throttled to 2.5Mbps thereafter)
1,324GB at 10Mbps (throttled to 5Mbps thereafter)

3 products listed price wise first table and 4 second table.So what's the price of 1Mbps?

 

[siraman]

I'd take the Neotel LTE 2Mbps at R999 based on my current usage with 8ta at 25GB+25GB(CAPPED) R999 vs Uncapped unshaped Neotel service.Yes the speeds don't compare(I constantly hit over 5Mbps daily) and even then i'd be throttled @ more than double my current 8ta usage + still have 1Mbps to tidy me up for the rest of the month in the case of hitting the threshold.

Sadly I won't be seeing this in these here parts....ever.

 

[Solitude]

I would love a capped LTE Neotel service of about 10GB p/m. Hopefully they will consider offering capped LTE too.

 

[ebendl]

And then



3 products listed price wise first table and 4 second table.So what's the price of 1Mbps?

Would like to know too.

Would also like to know the upload speeds of all of these - if they are symmetrical that would be awesome.

 

[siraman]

if the FUP is the same as their fibre products, it basically throttles you if you reach 50% of your theoretical max download capacity. i.e. on a 10mbps connection your theoretical monthly max is (10/8)*60*60*24*30/1024=3164GB hence at around 1582GB they will throttle you to 5mbps and hence you will be able to download another 791GB in that month leaving you with a total of 2373GB for the month.

Sweet, at least it's transparent.

 

[Ockie]

firstly using spectrum on the 1,800MHz band means it is not LTE. LTE is only for higher frequency, as I recall 1800 is nice and firmly in the HSDPA bracket of spectrum, ree....

Vodacom have deployed our LTE in 1800 refarmed spectrum.....and when the digital dividend gets handed out when the cows have finaly come home ... then LTE will be deployed in that band aswell. 2600 band was the original optimal band ..... but by no means the only band for LTE.

 

[siraman]

Neotel must come and plonk a base station or two here,I mean,couldn't 2 base stations cover a town with a +-8-10km radius? Oh wait...there will be no market,yes, semi-rural blah blah?

 

[jannievanzyl]

firstly using spectrum on the 1,800MHz band means it is not LTE.

Really?

I guess then Vodacom and MTN and most of the LTE operators in the world got it wrong?

 

[Jan]

For those of you following the thread, I've updated the article with the thresholds they showed us from their ToS (which will hopefully be on their site soon).

The 1Mbps might be listed in the FUP because they offer that over a different access medium? There definitely wasn't a 1Mbps LTE product listed today.

 

[Paul Hjul]

what isn't clear to me is if this is aiming to be a best effort ADSL like service or an SLA-esque product. Is there is a SLA on this at all if not then the pricing being cheaper than WIMAX makes sense

@JvZ is LTE a "better" option for "carrier grade" (and I am butchering the term but I think the idea is conveyed) fixed wireless or is it really a case of LTE being a damn good alternative to ADSL in producing broadband to consumers (which includes businesses)?

 

[Shake&Bake]

My question here is what market are they going for its definitely business not home use. They have several great business products now and no real viable home use products to compete against ADSL

I just wish Neotel would offer products for the masses and not just release for the same market every time

Agreed - it certainly seems like all they're catering for is the Corporate and SME sections of the market.

At least here you're getting a transparent FUP.
For those that need an unshaped, asymmetrical broadband connection - this could be it perhaps.

 

[Jan]

what isn't clear to me is if this is aiming to be a best effort ADSL like service or an SLA-esque product. Is there is a SLA on this at all if not then the pricing being cheaper than WIMAX makes sense

From what Angus told me at the launch today, it will carry the same SLA as their other NeoBroadband products (i.e. the same as their fibre and WiMAX stuff).

 

[Bern]

According to this: http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthr...x-offering?p=10879287&viewfull=1#post10879287

they are doing uncapped Wimax at 2mbps at R749 a month...

Did they announced that their Wimax services will be stopped?

I thought they announced this a while back, but may be mistaken. It is the logical step to move from Wimax to LTE though - better tech, equipment availability and end device compatibility.

Would like to know too.

Would also like to know the upload speeds of all of these - if they are symmetrical that would be awesome.

Highly unlikely, they will be inline with the current Wimax products.

what isn't clear to me is if this is aiming to be a best effort ADSL like service or an SLA-esque product. Is there is a SLA on this at all if not then the pricing being cheaper than WIMAX makes sense

@JvZ is LTE a "better" option for "carrier grade" (and I am butchering the term but I think the idea is conveyed) fixed wireless or is it really a case of LTE being a damn good alternative to ADSL in producing broadband to consumers (which includes businesses)?

It will be like the current Wimax which does not come with an SLA, even Neobroadband Fibre is best effort. You need the Digintet style or microwave services for full SLAs, they come at a significant premium. But since these products are aimed at the business market you can expect far better response times than you would from Telkom ADSL.

 

[ebendl]

I thought they announced this a while back, but may be mistaken. It is the logical step to move from Wimax to LTE though - better tech, equipment availability and end device compatibility.



Highly unlikely, they will be inline with the current Wimax products.



It will be like the current Wimax which does not come with an SLA, even Neobroadband Fibre is best effort. You need the Digintet style or microwave services for full SLAs, they come at a significant premium. But since these products are aimed at the business market you can expect far better response times than you would from Telkom ADSL.

Shame that the WiMax stuff is a bit cheaper.

How and when and where do we buy this? There website is seriously outdated.

 

[Sodan]

so essentially....and then advertise as such....

1Mbps at R999/month;
2.5Mbps at R1,799/month; and
5Mbps at R2,899/month.

Was gonna say the same thing.

And (if you're in the coverage area) for uncapped, unshaped, and even taking the halving of speed into consideration, the prices are actually really not that bad (imho).

I suppose it depends on how badly oversold the product is. But considering it's Neotel, there's a slim chance of congestion. Then again, compare the Cell C case

 

[rpm]

Neotel innovates and launches “NeoBroadband powered by LTE”

Neotel Press Release

Neotel today announced that its flagship broadband service NeoBroadband, is now also available over Neotel’s latest LTE network. NeoBroadband powered by LTE, is a fixed wireless solution designed to address the need of the business customer to have business-grade broadband service that provides a fast and consistent user experience for Small and Medium businesses (SMB) as well as large Enterprises. The solution uses a fixed installation to connect business offices via Neotel’s LTE network. The network has been designed to optimize connectivity in order to achieve consistent and reliable connection and speeds. In addition, Neotel’s LTE is unique as it is deployed in the uncluttered 1800 MHz band spectrum and optimised for Internet and data solutions.

Sunil Joshi, MD & CEO of Neotel said “The NeoBroadband powered by LTE brings business grade high speed LTE for the small and medium sized as well as large businesses. Neotel is using its LTE network to deliver efficient, stable, low contention, unshaped and uncapped internet to its business and retail customers as well as for last mile requirements. By using fixed wireless deployment Neotel can optimise the number of connections to each tower thereby delivering better speeds, consistent user experience and minimal disruptions.”

The technology and broadband market in South Africa is worth approximately R5.2 billion in 2013 and growing at 5.5% per year (CAGR). The NeoBroadband powered by LTE service will allow customers to rapidly connect to the world with a high speed, reliable connection. The initial release of the NeoBroadband over LTE, is focused in Gauteng and offers download speeds of 2 Mbps, 5Mbps and 10 Mbps on an unshaped, uncapped package ranging from R999 to R2899 per month. As the network footprint expands, Neotel will offer additional packages as well as make the service available in other regions in a phased manner.

With the addition of NeoBroadband powered by LTE in its product portfolio, Neotel is now uniquely positioned to offer a wide range of broadband services ranging from 1 Mbps up to 100 Mbps using different access technologies such as Fibre, WiMax and now LTE with price performance addressing different market segments and user profiles. Joshi says that “Neotel can offer customers speeds they need on a medium they are comfortable with and at a price point that delivers true value for the service they require. In order words Neotel can deliver a 100Mbps broadband service over fibre to a large business customer having huge data traffic or 10Mbps to a medium sized business over LTE or 2Mbps to a small business over LTE or Wimax or microwave. Neotel is in a unique position to be able to do just that”.

Joshi concludes “Neotel invested approximately R500 million in capex over the course of our last financial year, which ended 31 March 2013 to expand our fibre-optic networks and enhance of our ability to provide leading edge network and data solutions to our business and retail customers in South Africa. Neotel has access to over 15,000km of national long distance fibre and 8,000km in metropolitan areas, which is seamlessly connected to the five undersea cables that connect South Africa to Africa and other geographies. To that end, our investment in LTE network enables Neotel to leverage this infrastructure to deliver world class products and services to the South African market”.

 

[ebendl]

Ok so from the press release it doesn't sound like Wimax is going to be replaced by LTE.

 

[Franna]

On the picture of the LTE router the curtains in the background make it look like it has got two external antennas?