New build advice please

[Pyromaniacghoul]

Hi all

Here is my updated build:

LG 23EA53V, 23" (monitor) -R2393
Cooler Master Scout 2 (case/tower) - R1477
INTEL CORE I7-4770K, 3.5GHZ - R4385
EVGA NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX780 TI - R9662
Samsung 840 Evo 250Gb SSD - R2415
WD Green 1Tb HDD - R837
Mouse pad - R96
ASUS Z87-K (mobo) - R2308
Cooler Master Silent Pro M2, 850w - R1767
Optical drive - R169
RAM (2x 4gb) - R1074
Headphones Corsair 1500 v2 - R889
CPU fan Corsair - R495
Corsair Vengeance M65(mouse) - R631
Keyboard, Illuminated etc (nice but cheap ) - R237

Reason for i7 and not i5, I realized I would later be using autoCAD later this year for my one subject.

 

[GoofySmurf]

Hi all

I have decided to build my first gaming rig (I talked myself out of a ps4), so I went on rebeltech and threw this together, any tips and suggestions are welcome

- Intel Core i7-4770K, 3.5GHz, LGA1150, Quad Core ------- R4385
- Seagate Desktop SSHD ST1000DX001, 1TB, Hybrid SSHD, SATA6G, 7200rpm, 8GB MLC SSD - R1076
- ASUS Z87-K: all-in-one LGA1150 - R2308
- LG GH24NS95, 24x SATA, black, support SecurDisc technology - R176
- GIGABYTE GV-N770OC-4GD, 4Gb/4096mb 256bit DDR5, with WindForce3x - 3 fans design - R5888
- Corsair CMZ4GX3M1A1600C9, 4GB, Vengeance with heatsink, DDR3-1600, CL9, 1. (X3) - Total R1719
- Cooler Master K550, Mid Tower, Black, with Windowed Side Panel, no PSU - R1015
- Antec HCG-M (High Current Gamer Modular), 750w (12v : 744W), with EPS12V v2.92 - R1437

- Total machine cost: R18004.00

Acc's:
- LG 23EN43V, 23" LED display - R2378
- Cooler Master Quickfire XT (SGK-4030-GKCL1) - R1196
- Corsair Vengeance M95 (CH-9000025-AP), Gunmetal Black, Wired -R735
- Corsair Raptor HS40 (CA-9011122-NA), 7.1 gaming headset with built-in USB audio - R467
Sub Total Cost: R4476

Total cost: R22 780.00

First question, is the PSU good enough?

Yes more than enough, got 2x7970 crossfire on 850w psu.

Rather get yourself a 144hz monitor that monitor will be a waste on this system its about R2000 to R3000 extra.

 

[acidrain]

How come you got got 3x RAM. that i7 is only dual channel?

I'd rather get 2x 8GB chips.

I'd also go for a cheaper gfx card and get a 256GB SSD

 

[Pyromaniacghoul]

Rather get yourself a 144hz monitor that monitor will be a waste on this system its about R2000 to R3000 extra.

Not to be a noob, I can't find a monitor that says it's 144hz on rebeltech?

How come you got got 3x RAM. that i7 is only dual channel?

I'd rather get 2x 8GB chips.

I'd also go for a cheaper gfx card and get a 256GB SSD

I thanks I didn't notice it was only dual channel.

But is a SSD much better than a SSHD?

 

[Salvage]

- Intel Core i7-4770K, 3.5GHz, LGA1150, Quad Core ------- R4385

I always question when guys go for an i7. Do you really need hyper threading for gaming? Personal opinion is that hyper threading is useless for gaming. If you intend to use it just for gaming, and you're not going to be doing things like video rendering, or CAD work, then you really don't need it. I'd rather go for something like an i5 4670k with option for overclocking, and put the money saved into more RAM or a decent SSD.

GIGABYTE GV-N770OC-4GD, 4Gb/4096mb 256bit DDR5, with WindForce3x - 3 fans design

I have one of these, a fantastic card. And I was an ATI fanboy before getting my hands on this.

- Antec HCG-M (High Current Gamer Modular), 750w (12v : 744W), with EPS12V v2.92 - R1437

That's more than enough power. Another option would be to consider a Coolermaster Silent Pro M2 720W. I'm a fan of CoolerMaster

 

[Chevron]

Hi all

I have decided to build my first gaming rig (I talked myself out of a ps4), so I went on rebeltech and threw this together, any tips and suggestions are welcome

- Intel Core i7-4770K, 3.5GHz, LGA1150, Quad Core ------- R4385
- Seagate Desktop SSHD ST1000DX001, 1TB, Hybrid SSHD, SATA6G, 7200rpm, 8GB MLC SSD - R1076
- ASUS Z87-K: all-in-one LGA1150 - R2308
- LG GH24NS95, 24x SATA, black, support SecurDisc technology - R176
- GIGABYTE GV-N770OC-4GD, 4Gb/4096mb 256bit DDR5, with WindForce3x - 3 fans design - R5888
- Corsair CMZ4GX3M1A1600C9, 4GB, Vengeance with heatsink, DDR3-1600, CL9, 1. (X3) - Total R1719
- Cooler Master K550, Mid Tower, Black, with Windowed Side Panel, no PSU - R1015
- Antec HCG-M (High Current Gamer Modular), 750w (12v : 744W), with EPS12V v2.92 - R1437

- Total machine cost: R18004.00

Acc's:
- LG 23EN43V, 23" LED display - R2378
- Cooler Master Quickfire XT (SGK-4030-GKCL1) - R1196
- Corsair Vengeance M95 (CH-9000025-AP), Gunmetal Black, Wired -R735
- Corsair Raptor HS40 (CA-9011122-NA), 7.1 gaming headset with built-in USB audio - R467
Sub Total Cost: R4476

Total cost: R22 780.00

First question, is the PSU good enough?

You'll get better performance from getting a 1grand cheaper CPU and getting a proper SSD.

 

[acidrain]

You will only see significant speed difference with a hybrid drive on apps you use frequently as these will be cached to the memory banks. Everything else will run the same as if it was a HDD.

You can read a review yourself and make up your mind: http://www.pcworld.com/article/2025...ids-which-storage-tech-is-right-for-you-.html

Personally I would skip the Hybrid. Run your OS, applications and steam on the SSD and everything else just use normal hard drives.

 

[Bluefinllama]

I concur with the above, rather go the I5 route and spend the rest on something else.

If it was me, I'd skip getting the SSD and rather get a better graphics card if possible since the card will help more gaming wise, the SSD will mostly help with load times, but not much when that is done - correct me if I'm wrong please.
I'm also not up to date on the most recent cards, but as a rule of thumb, AMD should give you better value for money, not to mention mantle etc and since both the XBONE and PS4 is AMD based and most games are ported from the consoles, AMD should have the edge in the long run.
I might be wrong however, I do admit to being a bit of an AMD fanboi, used to love the NVIDIA / AMD combo, but whichever gives you the beast you're looking for I guess, currently have an Intel/AMD setup and never been happier.

 

[Pyromaniacghoul]

Personally I would skip the Hybrid. Run your OS, applications and steam on the SSD and everything else just use normal hard drives.

What sizes do you recommend for the SSD and normal HD then?


True, I'll take the i5-4670K then, R1000 saved

 

[Rickster]

TBH, I would ditch the Gigabyte card and get a Asus or EVGA.


Save a lot of money and stick with regular HD's, load time vs price vs storage is not worth it.

 

[acidrain]

What sizes do you recommend for the SSD and normal HD then?

256GB I'd say is plenty

I had a 128 and quickly ran out of space. Now got a 256GB, and with my OS, apps and my steam games still comfortably got 100GB free

Also performance of 128 isnt that great when comparing to the 256+ varieties.

 

[Chevron]

If it was me, I'd skip getting the SSD and rather get a better graphics card

Spoken like someone that's never used an SSD.

 

[Chevron]

What sizes do you recommend for the SSD and normal HD then?

Something like this is perfect:
http://www.wootware.co.za/crucial-ct240m500ssd1-m500-240gb-2-5-inch-internal-ssd.html

 

[Rickster]

256GB I'd say is plenty

I had a 128 and quickly ran out of space. Now got a 256GB, and with my OS, apps and my steam games still comfortably got 100GB free

Also performance of 128 isnt that great when comparing to the 256+ varieties.

This is with BF3/4, Dota 2, Cod BO1/2, Borderlands 2 and 3 SD movies.

 

[Chevron]

This is with BF3/4, Dota 2, Cod BO1/2, Borderlands 2 and 3 SD movies.

If you have enough time to play 7 Multiplayer games everyday you must not have a job.

 

[Rickster]

If you have enough time to play 7 Multiplayer games everyday you must not have a job.

Im a student, and I dont play all of them simultaneously, I dont even know why i have BF3 the servers are dead

 

[Chevron]

Im a student, and I dont play all of them simultaneously, I dont even know why i have BF3 the servers are dead

Was just trying to say uninstall the games you don't play

 

[Bluefinllama]

Spoken like someone that's never used an SSD.

What difference does an SSD make in-game after you have loaded the game? The cost does not necessitate it for gaming over a more powerful graphics card does it? Especially so when looking at multiplayer gaming where chances are you'd load faster then most other people already (looking at the rest of the specs of the above pc) and then have to wait for them to join? My argument isn't that it is useless, just that is a "nice to have" compared to other peripherals when it comes to gaming.

And you are correct, I do not have an SSD since I find the price exorbitant for my needs (the argument about multiplayer games above). Just because I do not own one doesn't invalidate my opinion, same as my opinion of one to gaming does not invalidate yours. Give me tangible proof that I am wrong in saying it doesn't affect gaming performance (except for loading times) when compared to mechanical drives.

The OP mentioned a PS4 which leads me to presume the OP wants the system for gaming which means a better card makes sense does it not?

 

[Chevron]

What difference does an SSD make in-game after you have loaded the game? The cost does not necessitate it for gaming over a more powerful graphics card does it? Especially so when looking at multiplayer gaming where chances are you'd load faster then most other people already (looking at the rest of the specs of the above pc) and then have to wait for them to join? My argument isn't that it is useless, just that is a "nice to have" compared to other peripherals when it comes to gaming.

And you are correct, I do not have an SSD since I find the price exorbitant for my needs (the argument about multiplayer games above). Just because I do not own one doesn't invalidate my opinion, same as my opinion of one to gaming does not invalidate yours. Give me tangible proof that I am wrong in saying it doesn't affect gaming performance (except for loading times) when compared to mechanical drives.

The OP mentioned a PS4 which leads me to presume the OP wants the system for gaming which means a better card makes sense does it not?

SSD makes your whole PC faster. Not just when gaming. I'd rather have a 2k gfx card plus SSD vs 3k gfx card and no SSD.

 

[Bluefinllama]

SSD makes your whole PC faster. Not just when gaming. I'd rather have a 2k gfx card plus SSD vs 3k gfx card and no SSD.

An SSD makes loading applications faster (all applications) hence your whole PC, am I correct? Which leads it to making load times for games faster and in that regards your pc becomes faster. I'm only trying to say it doesn't make a difference while playing the game (in my own opinion and this is how I built my pc which is predominantly for gaming - I opted for a better card).

Don't misinterpret me, I would love to get an SSD some time, but I'd only get something with a minimum of 200gb and at this moment it isn't a priority.

The OP doesn't seem to have too low a budget so an SSD would be a good way to go regardless.