New MacBook prices for SA

PostmanPot said:
That's because you're driven by specs and paper numbers, vs what counts: Build quality, operating system, practicality and size, screen quality, battery life, backlit keyboard and trackpad quality - in no specific order. The overall experience is not determined by specs once they've surpassed a certain level.

Your opinion is without being open minded about what appeals to people who are not specs-obsessed, who are more interested in what I have explained. It doesn't matter about what you could get in a Windows laptop.

Of course, you probably expect Core i7, mid range GPU, 16GB RAM, etc. because that's what you 'could' get to suit your wants/needs. Or, a Windows 'equivalent' Ultrabook with Core i5, 8GB, 256 - 512GB SSD, etc.

You probably also think about your experience with Windows, and how you couldn't bare only 4GB and a >2GHz dual core. There is a significant difference between 4GB on Windows and OS X, particularly over time as Windows tends to slow down.

Go into any Mac thread, and you might find 1% of posts to be negative. The positive posts are by people in various fields, jobs, circumstances. Many contribute quality content to the forum on multiple topics.

I think they know why this stuff is worth buying, mate.

Do not confuse buying into a quality product with the certainty that it's the best all round, with "feeling smugly superior about it", to quote your friend, which I suppose you feel, too.

Once you've accepted the obvious factual differences in quality, and that things are not the 'same', you can then start looking into how OS X differs from Windows, if you want to be truly balanced. If you don't, then do us a favour and spare us of your anti Apple bubble, which I was also in for 95% of my life.
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Wow, that's a lot of justification.
 
PostmanPot said:
That's because you're driven by specs and paper numbers, vs what counts: Build quality, operating system, practicality and size, screen quality, battery life, backlit keyboard and trackpad quality - in no specific order. The overall experience is not determined by specs once they've surpassed a certain level.

Your opinion is without being open minded about what appeals to people who are not specs-obsessed, who are more interested in what I have explained. It doesn't matter about what you could get in a Windows laptop.

Of course, you probably expect Core i7, mid range GPU, 16GB RAM, etc. because that's what you 'could' get to suit your wants/needs. Or, a Windows 'equivalent' Ultrabook with Core i5, 8GB, 256 - 512GB SSD, etc.

You probably also think about your experience with Windows, and how you couldn't bare only 4GB and a >2GHz dual core. There is a significant difference between 4GB on Windows and OS X, particularly over time as Windows tends to slow down.

Go into any Mac thread, and you might find 1% of posts to be negative. The positive posts are by people in various fields, jobs, circumstances. Many contribute quality content to the forum on multiple topics.

I think they know why this stuff is worth buying, mate.

Do not confuse buying into a quality product with the certainty that it's the best all round, with "feeling smugly superior about it", to quote your friend, which I suppose you feel, too.

Once you've accepted the obvious factual differences in quality, and that things are not the 'same', you can then start looking into how OS X differs from Windows, if you want to be truly balanced. If you don't, then do us a favour and spare us of your anti Apple bubble, which I was also in for 95% of my life.
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The stench of Apple fanboyism is overpowering. You're senile if you think you need to spend nearly 20 grand to get a good quality netbook. I use OS X extensively for Xcode - I'll take Windows over it any day of the week.
 
Bryn26 said:
The stench of Apple fanboyism is overpowering. You're senile if you think you need to spend nearly 20 grand to get a good quality netbook. I use OS X extensively for Xcode - I'll take Windows over it any day of the week.
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It's not about having a good quality ultrabook, it's about having the best quality Ultrabook.

The best happens to be Apple, Windows laptops just cannot match them. Everyone touts Dell XPS, Samsung Series 9, etc.

Well, I'm afraid those are only good ultrabooks.

Of course I'm a fanboy of the best.
 
PostmanPot said:
It's not about having a good quality ultrabook, it's about having the best quality Ultrabook.

The best happens to be Apple, Windows laptops just cannot match them. Everyone touts Dell XPS, Samsung Series 9, etc.

Well, I'm afraid those are only good ultrabooks.

Of course I'm a fanboy of the best.
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I'll take an XPS easily over an Air. Much better looking, doesn't run OS X, more practical and more powerful hardware.
 
Bryn26 said:
I'll take an XPS easily over an Air. Much better looking, doesn't run OS X, more practical and more powerful hardware.
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Horses for courses - I'd take an Air over any PC laptop available for the simple reason that only a mac can run the software I need.
 
I've got both PCs and MACs and make no apologies for willing to pay a price premium for what I perceive as a a better quality experience on a MAC based on MY needs. A V8 Ferrari 458 is never going to meet the demands of a V8 Lexus LS460. Comparing them as V8 engine specs is pointless.

Honestly can't wait for the new MacBook to land in SA.
 
backstreetboy said:
One USB port doesn't sound very practical...
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I hate the tiny number of ports Apple puts on their products, but it is still easier to plug in a little hub than it is to get OS X installed on a non-Apple laptop. I only run Windows for things where there is no other option and even on the premium Windows laptops they still can't seem to get their trackpads working properly.
 
PostmanPot said:
I take it you must at least have an Apple Magic Trackpad to assist in your using OS X, in order to form your opinion?

Or do you not?
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I use a mouse and keyboard. Why on earth would I subject a desktop machine to the miserable navigation of a notebook?
 
Bryn26 said:
I use a mouse and keyboard. Why on earth would I subject a desktop machine to the miserable navigation of a notebook?
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Ah, because navigation of a MacBook (or in many cases, desktop OS X) is the complete opposite of miserable, it's an absolute pleasure and adds significantly to the overall experience.

More importantly, OS X and Apple's trackpads or Magic Mouses, have a very strong relationship.

Which you are completely oblivious to, as one would expect.
 
PostmanPot said:
Ah, because navigation of a MacBook (or in many cases, desktop OS X) is the complete opposite of miserable, it's an absolute pleasure and adds significantly to the overall experience.

More importantly, OS X and Apple's trackpads or Magic Mouses, have a very strong relationship.

Which you are completely oblivious to, as one would expect.
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The trackpad has one job - to help you navigate. I don't have a problem navigating OS X. I've used Apple notebooks belonging to friends and the trackpad is nothing special, nor are the trackpad gestures. A decent mouse is faster 100% of the time.
 
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