New MacBook Pro with M4

ebendl said:
Mmm, I was leaning towards an M3 Pro 14" with 36GB of RAM and 1TB.

Now with the new M4's, the only configuration I would be able to get is probably an M4 Pro 14" with 24GB and 1TB, or 48GB with 1TB.

The latter seems overkill, but you'd need to jump to an M4 Max to get 36GB - a 600 USD upgrade.

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I currently use a Windows machine with 32GB and it feels terrible going to a new machine with LESS RAM.
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Moving away from Windows is not.
 
ebendl said:
Mmm, I was leaning towards an M3 Pro 14" with 36GB of RAM and 1TB.

Now with the new M4's, the only configuration I would be able to get is probably an M4 Pro 14" with 24GB and 1TB, or 48GB with 1TB.

The latter seems overkill, but you'd need to jump to an M4 Max to get 36GB - a 600 USD upgrade.

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I currently use a Windows machine with 32GB and it feels terrible going to a new machine with LESS RAM.
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If I were buying today I'd opt for the MB PRO M4 PRO 14-Core CPU 20-Core GPU 24GB Unified Memory 1TB SSD Storage for $2399. It's quite good value and the usual Apple sweet spot of $2000-$2500. If I had to spend any more than that I'd opt for the M4 MAX with 36GB rather than simply upgrading to 48GB.

You could also downgrade to the M4 PRO 12 Core/16 Core GPU and get 48GB and 1TB for $2599.
 
Waiting on the updated M4 Air

Currently have the M2 Air | 16GB RAM | 256GB SSD

Only issue I currently have is with storage
 
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Bernoldus Niemand said:
Moving away from Windows is not.
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I've used Macbooks in the past and still have a Macbook at home. We have a BYOD policy at work, but use certain enterprise software which requires a Windows machine. So I've used Macbooks in the past with Parallels for the Windows portion, which was generally not the best experience but doable.

I tried to go back to full-Windows but the Dell XPS' terrible Killer wifi is enough to make me want to go back to Mac (and weird other things, like Preview and the fact that you can select text from screenshots in Preview, the much better built-in PDF viewer etc)
 
quovadis said:
If I were buying today I'd opt for the MB PRO M4 PRO 14-Core CPU 20-Core GPU 24GB Unified Memory 1TB SSD Storage for $2399. It's quite good value and the usual Apple sweet spot of $2000-$2500. If I had to spend any more than that I'd opt for the M4 MAX with 36GB rather than simply upgrading to 48GB.
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Our BYOD policy requires at least 32GB of RAM, that's why I'm considering this:
quovadis said:
You could also downgrade to the M4 PRO 12 Core/16 Core GPU and get 48GB and 1TB for $2599.
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Would be interesting to see benchmarks when they come out. From this video and the guy's take on Apple's "benchmarks" shown in the press release, it looks like the M4 surpasses performance of the M2's entire lineup (e.g. the M2 Pro and M2 Max) and the M4 Pro / Max are much better than ANY of the previous silicon Apple has produced (including the Ultras).

 
ebendl said:
Our BYOD policy requires at least 32GB of RAM, that's why I'm considering this:


Would be interesting to see benchmarks when they come out. From this video and the guy's take on Apple's "benchmarks" shown in the press release, it looks like the M4 surpasses performance of the M2's entire lineup (e.g. the M2 Pro and M2 Max) and the M4 Pro / Max are much better than ANY of the previous silicon Apple has produced (including the Ultras).

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32GB is fine for Windows but I wouldn't want to get into the debate about it. The benchmarks will make a decision far easier. Also iStore's pricing and which models they will carry would help too.
 
ebendl said:
Our BYOD policy requires at least 32GB of RAM, that's why I'm considering this:


Would be interesting to see benchmarks when they come out. From this video and the guy's take on Apple's "benchmarks" shown in the press release, it looks like the M4 surpasses performance of the M2's entire lineup (e.g. the M2 Pro and M2 Max) and the M4 Pro / Max are much better than ANY of the previous silicon Apple has produced (including the Ultras).

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Every M chip is superior to the previous generation. OK maybe M3 Max > M4 base but definitely for 2 gens back for Ultra (2 x Max chips) that will be the case.
 
I got the M3 Pro MBP like a few weeks ago:cautious: via takelot, It looks like it's still returnable, do you guys think I should try returning it? I got it for 40K on the dot.
 
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quovadis said:
Just a note - you're referring to Apple Silicon MacBooks with Parallels or the Intel ones?
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I've used Parallels on Intel Macs.

I have colleagues running Parallels with Windows ARM on Apple Silicon Macs though.
 
ebendl said:
I've used Parallels on Intel Macs.

I have colleagues running Parallels with Windows ARM on Apple Silicon Macs though.
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Ok just making sure you’re aware there are some limitations with Parallels only supporting Windows Arm on apple silicon so you’re limited to applications that support that or 32bit apps.
 
quovadis said:
I stand corrected if it is now supported but I'm basing it off early Parallels and Windows Arm. I couldn't get SSMS or SQL to install on Windows Arm Guest on Parallels on an M1. I had to find an old 2014 32bit version as a stop gap.
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Luckily most of the development I do will be on the Mac side. The Windows side will be purely for running a piece of enterprise software and testing some things in (complete overkill to have to load a VM + Windows but don't have much choice).
 
ebendl said:
Luckily most of the development I do will be on the Mac side. The Windows side will be purely for running a piece of enterprise software and testing some things in (complete overkill to have to load a VM + Windows but don't have much choice).
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Parallels in coherence mode makes it seamless - most people who aren't aware of it are astounded when they see it especially if they use virtualization on windows. I spend a lot of time in Visual Studio so really liked the VS for Mac but that's been discontinued so I won't be escaping parallels. It's cool though for the odd thing that I cannot find a replacement for on Mac.
 
ebendl said:
Mmm, I was leaning towards an M3 Pro 14" with 36GB of RAM and 1TB.

Now with the new M4's, the only configuration I would be able to get is probably an M4 Pro 14" with 24GB and 1TB, or 48GB with 1TB.

The latter seems overkill, but you'd need to jump to an M4 Max to get 36GB - a 600 USD upgrade.

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I currently use a Windows machine with 32GB and it feels terrible going to a new machine with LESS RAM.
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Apple is better at optimizing memory - I wouldn't sweat it.

I run the M3 Pro Max - 36GB RAM, 1TB disk for work and it barely breaks a sweat.
 
www.macrumors.com

M4 Pro Chip Benchmark Results Reveal an Extremely Impressive Performance Feat

The first Geekbench 6 benchmark results for the M4 Pro chip surfaced today. Impressively, the results that are available so far show that the highest-end M4 Pro chip is faster than the highest-end M2 Ultra chip in terms of peak multi-core CPU performance.
www.macrumors.com www.macrumors.com

Here is a comparison of the results:

  • Mac mini with M4 Pro (14-core CPU): 22,094 multi-core score (average of 11 results)

  • Mac Studio with M2 Ultra (24-core CPU): 21,351 (average of more than 600 results)
 
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