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Clueless on the latest PC components….any comments on the below R17500, tia
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duderoo said:
Is that for longevity or just a better option?

I assume AMD is the CPU to go for nowadays?
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8gb vs 16gb if you van get 16GB gpu for the same price why buy 8gb card

Fine wine or vineger ?

Now yes i see evetech doesn't have 9060 xt prebuilts in the list yet

I woud wait until it is an option
 
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750w Gold Rated PSU else you will be upgrading that the next time you buy a graphics card.
(Unless this is a media center and office work, in which case 8Gb is fine if not gaming)
16Gb 9060/5060TI.
Buy a W11 key here or on Carbonite for R200.
 
duderoo said:
Clueless on the latest PC components….any comments on the below R17500, tia
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to be honest if trying to stick to that budget i would go budget shopping

case R699

SSD R1199

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PSU R749

GPU R8600

evetech bundle R6698 (with 32gb 5600mhz option)

that would land you at R17 944

R65 to R100 for a key depending on what you go for i would go for win 11 iot ltsc
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you will have better GPU 16gb vs 8gb for newer games later, newer board AM5 access to future upgrades
same performance as ryzen 7 5700 less core/thread count though bigger punch ipc makes up for it

do you have any current hardware you can re-use case psu etc?

sure the case in the prebuilt is nicer and board probably a bit too, so would like it instead but but yea the prebuilt locks you in to am4 and 8gb GPU not so nice imo, and going for slightly better items ie PSU or case 7 expansion slots and enough space for longer cards, can mean in future you don't have to buy a case again if buying bigger longer components on next upgrade
 
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Exaelea said:
pffff. Save the hassle AND R100 ... go Linux 🐧
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Yea gaming on linux has gotten better i believe

But sure there will still be the odd case here and there

+ linux does have its things
ie at some point a filesysyem check /mnt gives a problem and it simply refuses to boot and drops you into console

Then what for the avg guy that knows nothing , windows wil always stay a thing

This comes to mind
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leon.davibe said:
Yea gaming on linux has gotten better i believe

But sure there will still be the odd case here and there

+ linux does have its things
ie at some point a filesysyem check /mnt gives a problem and it simply refuses to boot and drops you into console

Then what for the avg guy that knows nothing , windows wil always stay a thing

This comes to mind
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Thats how you stall evolution.. stick to the same old thing you learned over the years from when you were a kid.. or try something new and feel good about it. Just dont expect it to just work. Even windows didnt just work, took years to understand it and its fixes for the avg user.
 
Exaelea said:
pffff. Save the hassle AND R100 ... go Linux 🐧
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Or just check mass gravel on github xD

That aside, and not directed at any one in particular but I see the R5 7500f beats the am4 x3d chips in quite a few benchmarks. Is there any ryzen 8000 or 9000 equivalent to this cpu or are they all ridiculously expensive?
 
PatchTuesday said:
Or just check mass gravel on github xD

That aside, and not directed at any one in particular but I see the R5 7500f beats the am4 x3d chips in quite a few benchmarks. Is there any ryzen 8000 or 9000 equivalent to this cpu or are they all ridiculously expensive?
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You won't find 7500f easily anymore
 
InTheWild said:
Thanks! Yeah the Ryzen 5 8500G looks good and decent enough price.
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Price : single thread / multi thread

Ryzen 5 8500G = R3,427 : 3892 / 21625
Ryzen 5 7600 = R4,400 : 3909 / 27058
Ryzen 5 7600X = R4,800 : 4136 / 28410


from a Ryzen 5 8500G to a 7600 is 30% increase in price for around a 1% increase in single thread and 25% in multi thread performance.

from a Ryzen 5 7600 to a 7600X there is a 10% increase in price for around a 5% increase in performance.
 
Wrath of Khan MD said:
Price : single thread / multi thread

Ryzen 5 8500G = R3,427 : 3892 / 21625
Ryzen 5 7600 = R4,400 : 3909 / 27058
Ryzen 5 7600X = R4,800 : 4136 / 28410


from a Ryzen 5 8500G to a 7600 is 30% increase in price for around a 1% increase in single thread and 25% in multi thread performance.

from a Ryzen 5 7600 to a 7600X there is a 10% increase in price for around a 5% increase in performance.
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i assume the reduction in cache won't be as noticeable in synthetic benchmarks

But may make a bigger difference in games and scertain scenarios

Example the ryzen 9 3900x has way slower cores than a 12400 but has more cache

My wife was doing some tasks that seemed to not be optimized for more core count ie loading one core

The 3900x with more cache was
handling the task Better even with slower cores

Is it worth the price difference each must decide what is more important
Probably not i would rather spend more on gpu

the G parts have less cache to make space for igpu and it does impact gaming

(does it matter if saturating monitor refresh rate probably not as long as it does not impact 1% lows but yea think core count would make a bigger difference on that)
 
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PatchTuesday said:
Or just check mass gravel on github xD

That aside, and not directed at any one in particular but I see the R5 7500f beats the am4 x3d chips in quite a few benchmarks. Is there any ryzen 8000 or 9000 equivalent to this cpu or are they all ridiculously expensive?
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benchmarks are often run on clean install running only one thing though, ad a ton of crap and the extra cores/threads may make a bigger difference, i know the first gen ryzen was crap with infinity fabric, a clean install benchmark of a i7 7700 beats a ryzen 5 1600 the extra core count made my kids day to day experience better so benchmarks is just a metric to gauge imo

buy as much cores as you can afford has allways been my moto
 
Exaelea said:
pffff. Save the hassle AND R100 ... go Linux 🐧
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Anyone tried these keys or best link on carbonite anyone can recommend ?

Bought one of these in the past and then after a few months I keep getting pop ups of needing to reverify etc.
 
L-Dog said:
Anyone tried these keys or best link on carbonite anyone can recommend ?

Bought one of these in the past and then after a few months I keep getting pop ups of needing to reverify etc.
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@Flashgear might be able to assist
 
L-Dog said:
Anyone tried these keys or best link on carbonite anyone can recommend ?

Bought one of these in the past and then after a few months I keep getting pop ups of needing to reverify etc.
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only installed a week or 2 ago , time will tell
have bought keys like this before on ebay and bidorbuy without problems
i just buy where ever it is cheapest
 
Anyone who has a Gigabyte AM5 800 series motherboard. AMD has mysteriously removed their previous BIOS and replaced it with a new one. The description is the same, going by my memory.

For my board, which is the Aorus Pro v1, I had F5/F5a and v1.1 had FA3. They are both removed now, and a new F6 and FA4 is published respectively. I don't know why, and people on other discussion boards are all coming to their own conclusions.

In my opinion, best update that BIOS when on a BIOS that is now removed. Gigabyte also said a while ago that they will release X3D Turbo Mode 2, but it seems to have been postponed. Maybe it had to do with PBO, /cough, boosts. I don't use it though.

For those who don't know, ASRock have now rolled out their new BIOS that 3.25 (and AGESA 1.2.0.3d). They will also cover both CPU and motherboard that were damaged.
 
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