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Lupus said:
It actually looks like the Maxsun for chipset parts
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Previous Sapphire boards were made by Chaintech. It is possible that both Sapphire and Maxsun use them as their ODM. Parts are parts; it is a common parts pool that is being sourced.

I see some peeps on Reddit believe these to be remodeled ASRock boards. Like the NZXT ones.

I don't see B850 boards listed on the Chaintech website, but here is a B650.

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I don't know how the ODM industry works. It is complicated. Capacity is also sourced. All in all, it doesn't matter. All these boards are still custom.

The X870E board that Sapphire showcased, well, that one has integrated ASUS A-BTF tech.

At least there is more competition, and competition, in my view, is healthy to have.
 
Fulcrum29 said:
Previous Sapphire boards were made by Chaintech. It is possible that both Sapphire and Maxsun use them as their ODM. Parts are parts; it is a common parts pool that is being sourced.

I see some peeps on Reddit believe these to be remodeled ASRock boards. Like the NZXT ones.

I don't see B850 boards listed on the Chaintech website, but here is a B650.

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I don't know how the ODM industry works. It is complicated. Capacity is also sourced. All in all, it doesn't matter. All these boards are still custom.

The X870E board that Sapphire showcased, well, that one has integrated ASUS A-BTF tech.

At least there is more competition, and competition, in my view, is healthy to have.
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That is one sexy board :D
Lupus said:
Interesting Maxsun has already released 2 bios updates for my board.
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Funny enough you made me look at mine, it also received an update last month, but it was more just a general update to bios settings not being saved and such, still for a board released just over a year ago, still getting updates is pretty decent support.
 
Fulcrum29 said:
Unexpected:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1968633691120296368

I don't think anyone, outside, saw this coming. Did Intel then need the US Gov?

Anyhow, there could be some good consumer products on the horizon.

Intel has in the past dabbled with this, with AMD, but it was short-lived.

Nvidia is buying a stake in Intel.
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How will this help Intel stay alive?

At least the government getting a stake secures their survival with public backing.
 
Slckrck said:
How will this help Intel stay alive?
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Intel isn't dying. They have problems, but aren't dead. AMD has grabbed market share and is leading in some segments, but Intel is still leading in the server market. That said, AMD is stagnating in the server market as new sales are slowing. Now Intel will be building custom Nvidia x86 CPUs. Nvidia's ecosystem is being strengthened. Win-win.

On the consumer end. Intel SOCs will integrate with Nvidia RTX GPU chiplets. Intel does well in this segment too, and that will harden Intel's ecosystem. Again, win-win.

I doubt that products like Arc will be retired. It is now more likely to see CUDA on Arc, among other Nvidia technologies (stacks).

Slckrck said:
At least the government getting a stake secures their survival with public backing.
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As much as they say that Intel will remain independent. The US government will wave its wand, backed by the public.

In addition. Nvidia gets Intel to package ;) (This is very advantageous, and there is the odd chance that the US government set this up to happen). I won't be surprised, but Intel will get good Nvidia business.
 
Fulcrum29 said:
Intel isn't dying. They have problems, but aren't dead. AMD has grabbed market share and is leading in some segments, but Intel is still leading in the server market. That said, AMD is stagnating in the server market as new sales are slowing. Now Intel will be building custom Nvidia x86 CPUs. Nvidia's ecosystem is being strengthened. Win-win.

On the consumer end. Intel SOCs will integrate with Nvidia RTX GPU chiplets. Intel does well in this segment too, and that will harden Intel's ecosystem. Again, win-win.

I doubt that products like Arc will be retired. It is now more likely to see CUDA on Arc, among other Nvidia technologies (stacks).



As much as they say that Intel will remain independent. The US government will wave its wand, backed by the public.

In addition. Nvidia gets Intel to package ;) (This is very advantageous, and there is the odd chance that the US government set this up to happen). I won't be surprised, but Intel will get good Nvidia business.
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Yields matter..... Yes Nvidia can contract them to build custom chips.....but ahem, how long will it take, how competitive will they be and will Nvidia be looking at TSMC in the near future.....we know what happened when companies went to "greener pastures" over at Samsung {Google Tensor)

The Fab business is hell.
 
Slckrck said:
Yields matter..... Yes Nvidia can contract them to build custom chips.....but ahem, how long will it take, how competitive will they be and will Nvidia be looking at TSMC in the near future.....we know what happened when companies went to "greener pastures" over at Samsung {Google Tensor)

The Fab business is hell.
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True, I agree the business is hell, Nvidia is, however, putting its money where Intel's mouth is. Not a big investment given Nvidia's size and them avoiding being strangled by competition regulations, but $5 billion in Intel's common stock will show good movement.

I was hoping to see more competition, but this is what the world has.
 
Fulcrum29 said:
True, I agree the business is hell, Nvidia is, however, putting its money where Intel's mouth is. Not a big investment given Nvidia's size and them avoiding being strangled by competition regulations, but $5 billion in Intel's common stock will show good movement.

I was hoping to see more competition, but this is what the world has.
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Yeah.....I saw a fab business graph recently that showed only two are left going into 3 and 2nm..... everyone else dropped off between 28nm and 4nm.

In terms of Intel's prospects I'm still sceptical....yes the Arc business has potential but it requires more commitment or it'll fall like Microsoft Windows Mobile OS did.

Also Nvidia is far too exposed to the AI bubble. And Jenson is abandoning his core base, gaming was the backbone of the company but he got consumed by the hype......AI and future AGI is far from making money yet and the appetite for investment is dropping.
 
Slckrck said:
Yeah.....I saw a fab business graph recently that showed only two are left going into 3 and 2nm..... everyone else dropped off between 28nm and 4nm.

In terms of Intel's prospects I'm still sceptical....yes the Arc business has potential but it requires more commitment or it'll fall like Microsoft Windows Mobile OS did.

Also Nvidia is far too exposed to the AI bubble. And Jenson is abandoning his core base, gaming was the backbone of the company but he got consumed by the hype......AI and future AGI is far from making money yet and the appetite for investment is dropping.
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Ai and AGI are like bitcoin, Jensen just needs to keep the hype going so money keeps coming into the sector as he supplies the train tracks. Does not actually need AGI to become a reality just that people believe it will eventually happen like bitcoin replacing the USD as reserve currency.
 
Soyo B550m and 32gb Eagret ram in a system with a 256gb SSD and 4650g running in it setup.
With Temu fans and an old case from 2019.
Ram is 3200mts, set up xmp profile, motherboard was in Chinese on the bios and trying to get into the bios initially wasn't easy.
Also got Windows 11 setup with all the drivers and went back to OOBE so if elder niece doesn't take it, where ever I sell it to can continue on the setup.
But yeah 2k for RAM and Mobo, 160 for the fans, nothing for the case and sdd, 4650g was like R1k.627831927.jpg2113072626.jpg
 
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