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netstrider said:
The HAVN cases would be nice to see too.


Anyway, the cooler holds up in games but is not sufficient for heavy prolongued workloads as suspected by a previous poster.

Also need to double check mount and CPU fans. Think I got it right but I may be wrong.

Over 90 with Cinebench. Did stay stable but did not complete the run as I don't want to stress it unecessarily.

May have a cooler to PIF soon.
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Remember cinebench is an extreme scenario, games won't push it that hard.
 
PhireSide said:
360mm AIO in your future? 170w TDP chip will need all the cooling it can get for sustained workloads.
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Yeah I will see what my options are. Will use a better fan cooler if I could get away with it.
 
netstrider said:
Yeah I will see what my options are. Will use a better fan cooler if I could get away with it.
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Der8auer made a video on a Thermalright cooler that did about as good as a decent Noctua cooler. Will try find the link later and share it here for you. Not sure if we get it in SA though
 
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PhireSide said:
Der8auer made a video on a Thermalright cooler that did about as good as a decent Noctua cooler. Will try find the link later and share it here for you. Not sure if we get it in SA though
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Yeah I think rebelgaming sell them.
 
Peerless Assassin? One of the best coolers you can get.
 

Intel XeSS3 gets Multi-Frame Generation up to 4x frames​

At the Intel Tech Tour, the company officially announced XeSS 3, the next major version of its AI-based upscaling technology. A new feature called XeSS-MFG (Multi-Frame Generation) was also introduced, expanding XeSS beyond traditional single-frame interpolation. According to Intel, XeSS-MFG will become a core part of the XeSS 3 stack and is designed to generate multiple intermediate frames for smoother animation and higher perceived frame rates.

This is a similar approach to NVIDIA’s DLSS stack, which separates upscaling and frame generation. Intel never shipped single-frame generation before, so it’s skipping straight to multi-frame interpolation, capable of generating up to four frames from two source frames. XeSS-MFG uses an optical flow network built on motion vectors and depth buffers, interpolating three additional frames for up to 4× frame output.

With this release, Intel becomes the second GPU vendor to support multi-frame generation, following NVIDIA’s DLSS 4. However, unlike DLSS 4, XeSS 3 MFG will support all Arc GPUs with XMX hardware, including Arc A-series, Core Ultra 200 (Xe2), and future Arc B-series (Xe3) products. Older Xe1 GPUs will also get support later, making Intel the first to bring multi-frame generation to multiple generations of hardware.

Intel also confirmed new control options coming to its Graphics Software app. The Frame Generation Override feature will let users manually select 2×, 3×, or 4× modes, or leave it to the application. The same update adds Shared GPU/NPU Memory Override, allowing users to allocate system memory for iGPU and NPU workloads, similar to AMD’s shared memory feature.
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Antec ATOM V650​

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Not the best PSU, it is going to into the backup system running a 4770k with a 570GTX. I wouldn't put it in a current gen hardware upgrade, but it will do just fine in the older rig. Wasn't looking to spend a fortune as I already have had to replace my main rigs PSU, with a corsair. 3 year warranty isn't the worse, it is better than the off brand china stuff with only a year from god knows where.....

At R759 it is pretty much a R100 cheaper than everywhere else, and it was the last one in stock

Sigh my never ending list of things to get isn't getting any shorter, now need to find a decent but cheap case to build the backup in that has at least USB 3 front out....
 
So, you "can" use an AK620 on a 9950X3D, but it's really not recommended. Probably quite a few points short of what it's capable of.

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Still bus experimenting but this 6700XT is responding well to an undervolt. Down to around 175w @ 95% GPU usage.

Also capped the 5600x at 50 watts and performance is still pretty decent although boost clocks are lower as is to be expected
 
PhireSide said:
Still bus experimenting but this 6700XT is responding well to an undervolt. Down to around 175w @ 95% GPU usage.

Also capped the 5600x at 50 watts and performance is still pretty decent although boost clocks are lower as is to be expected
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You don't have to cap the performance on 5600x, why are you limiting it ?
 
wizardofid said:
You don't have to cap the performance on 5600x, why are you limiting it ?
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Because it runs cooler so doesn't spin up my fans as much as when it sits at 70w TDP.

Performance in the (older) games that I play are still a solid 60fps.
 
PhireSide said:
Because it runs cooler so doesn't spin up my fans as much as when it sits at 70w TDP.

Performance in the (older) games that I play are still a solid 60fps.
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It isn't the CPU, it is the cooler and thermal paste. It running at 65 -70 under heavy loads is perfectly normal and fine, you may not like it, but they wouldn't have allowed it to run at those temps if it wasn't safe. You are literally cutting your performance in half by limiting it to 50 watts. Just remember any power limiting doesn't scale linear, reducing by 18% isn't going to reduce performance by 18% it is going to be a lot more.

Default TDP is 65 watts, why not just keep it at that
 
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wizardofid said:
It isn't the CPU, it is the cooler and thermal paste. It running at 65 -70 under heavy loads is perfectly normal and fine, you may not like it, but they wouldn't have allowed it to run at those temps if it wasn't safe. You are literally cutting your performance in half by limiting it to 50 watts.
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I know it is safe. It will start to thermal throttle at 95 degrees.

What I am getting it is that by limiting the total power draw the CPU can take, PBO does not ramp up as much and I see lower overall system power consumption. I limit my framerate to 60fps anyway, and I can see both in RTSS stats and on the draw on my Deye inverter that the power consumption has dropped by around 100 watts for my entire system compared to my prior settings.

I don't have any adaptive resolution/textures setup in the game I am playing now (AC Odyssey) so it's not that the performance/graphics seem affected in any way. It's still at a solid 60fps all the way with the settings that I have enabled.

When and if I need the extra performance, I can always raise the power cap again. The below is what RTSS is reporting now. Before undervolting the GPU and reducing the total CPU power current, it was sitting at between 200 and 210w for the GPU and 75-80w for the CPU.

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PhireSide said:
I know it is safe. It will start to thermal throttle at 95 degrees.

What I am getting it is that by limiting the total power draw the CPU can take, PBO does not ramp up as much and I see lower overall system power consumption. I limit my framerate to 60fps anyway, and I can see both in RTSS stats and on the draw on my Deye inverter that the power consumption has dropped by around 100 watts for my entire system compared to my prior settings.

I don't have any adaptive resolution/textures setup in the game I am playing now (AC Odyssey) so it's not that the performance/graphics seem affected in any way. It's still at a solid 60fps all the way with the settings that I have enabled.

When and if I need the extra performance, I can always raise the power cap again. The below is what RTSS is reporting now. Before undervolting the GPU and reducing the total CPU power current, it was sitting at between 200 and 210w for the GPU and 75-80w for the CPU.

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What PSU do you have, it has more to do with that.
 
PhireSide said:
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Decent PSU, unless you have a platinum rated PSU, you still have a considerable extra draw from the wall socket regardless. For the most part, PSU's are less efficient at lower loads, pending the topology of the design. So you might not actually be doing your self any favours. There is a power draw efficiency curve, the curve starts at 50%-70% for peak efficiency. It may be showing you are drawing 100 watts less, but it isn't necessarily more efficiently drawing power either way for the alleged saving. 100 watts equals 0.1kw, 1kw per 10 hours of continuous load, a bit cynical ? A boiling kettle uses just under a kilowatt when boiling a full kettle.

Unless you are on solar, which I can understand most would agree it is a bit silly.

It may say this PSU is 90% efficient, but that is misleading, and that is marketing for you. It is rather up to 90% efficient under a specific load. For a gold rated PSU the min efficiency is at least 90% at 50% load. If I hazard a guess, you aren't even hitting the 50% load or not often, which means your power draw from the wall socket is below 90%
 
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