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spiderz
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Yip, WR / Lafarge or what else?
Prof.Merlin
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aborg
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How much more is a transit node other than just linking to the current Jawug network? I would like to add some coverage if possible.
I am busy building a flat on my property and it will have pretty good views of randburg and northcliff here from florida hills. Will sponsor part of my end year bonus if it's not too much.
I am busy building a flat on my property and it will have pretty good views of randburg and northcliff here from florida hills. Will sponsor part of my end year bonus if it's not too much.
The recommended kit for connecting to JAWUG can do transit as well. It contains an RB433 and can take up to 3 antennas. Most of the kits cost in the region of R2000 as far as I remember.
I am Penguin
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Please comment on using a PC. What specs are required. What is required to set up a "server" Highsite?
We have used "PC's" on important sites in the past couple of years... A PC on a highsite would basically consist of the following:
An old P3 Motherboard
1ghz P3 CPU
128mb RAM
CF to IDE convertor, with a 128mb CF card running the Mikrotik OS (or a "DOM" - A Disk On Module") plugged into the IDE slot.
A PCI Riser card, containing 4 mini-pci slots for Radio cards...
However many cards are required for the links
A weatherproof enclosure (A big orange metal box)
Plus an assortment of LMR cable, and pigtails.
Lastly, if you are running this thing on top of a high tower, you would ideally need a special power supply, to send 12v or 24v up instead of 220v
We have implemented several of these, but lately have experienced issues with CF cards failing, or motherboards dying on us, and have opted to go back to Mikrotik Routerboards with multiple slots.
In some instances, we have installed several identical routerboards at the same site, and linked them together in order to cater for the amount of links we require.
My advice, get yourself a routerboard with multiple slots and you'll have far less worries and hassle!
comes to a total of R2620, leave the external enclosure and it's R1920
You can buy a full wug kit from miro or scoop for +-R1980 incl VAT
http://www.scoopdistribution.co.za/product_info.php?cPath=49_78&products_id=783
or
http://mailer.miro.co.za/miro_add_4_wireless_kit.jpg
aborg
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Thanks ambo... will keep on checking back as I require more info, will drop by on IRC as well, need to finish the flat first to confirm LOS. Got quite a few trees around my property. How do you guys get permission for highsites??? Do you approach the building owners? Why is the Proton building at Constantia Kloof not a high site that should also be ideal?
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I am Penguin
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Thanks for the reply's
A few more questions if it is in order.
What is the justification for joining a wug? Whats to offer (advantages to a community) or what can you do with the link. How do I justify the installation of a highsite with prospective users. How do I justfy a highsite proposition to a property owner of a possible "highsite" Stack/Tower/Watertower.
What is required for a prospective "Highsite" in a suburb (Enclosed community) be set up as a "Hotspot" for local residents as a "local" network for safety and security issues. This hotspot server then will link direct with another "Jwug" highsite or via a new proposed highsite by linking up to main nodes. This "new" highsite addition will then have be a powerfull highspeed node to Jwug to allow for high volume traffic and serve more users to link to Jwug from the far East Rand areas.
For the ''Highsite" router would the Mikrotik RB/433AH be that is required or would that be an overkill?
http://www.dbg.co.za/catalog/product...roducts_id=197
Looking at http://www.dbg.co.za/catalog/index.php?cPath=74_23. What "local" antenna would be best for a close to 180/360 degrees surround coverage/access +-1.5 Km radius, an Omni or 2*Sector?
How do you get surround coverage on a highsite node. Must you have multiple antennae pointing in different directions with one or more dish to link to the other main nodes?
According to the wug LOS calculator I have LOS with Primrose 26KM. Would that be possible using a high gain dish? I have direct LOS with Vulcania Watertower on KML. This WaterTower have according to the LOS calculator direct LOS with Primrose, (TB) Trustbank, Nigel, Selcourt, Benoni, etc. Would this be the Ideal Higsite for adding a High speed node?
What equipment would be required to test for signals in various directions to determine best connections to existing Jwug nodes?
Lastly but not least. How do you secure the hardware investment on Water towers against theft/vandalism?
A few more questions if it is in order.
What is the justification for joining a wug? Whats to offer (advantages to a community) or what can you do with the link. How do I justify the installation of a highsite with prospective users. How do I justfy a highsite proposition to a property owner of a possible "highsite" Stack/Tower/Watertower.
What is required for a prospective "Highsite" in a suburb (Enclosed community) be set up as a "Hotspot" for local residents as a "local" network for safety and security issues. This hotspot server then will link direct with another "Jwug" highsite or via a new proposed highsite by linking up to main nodes. This "new" highsite addition will then have be a powerfull highspeed node to Jwug to allow for high volume traffic and serve more users to link to Jwug from the far East Rand areas.
For the ''Highsite" router would the Mikrotik RB/433AH be that is required or would that be an overkill?
http://www.dbg.co.za/catalog/product...roducts_id=197
Looking at http://www.dbg.co.za/catalog/index.php?cPath=74_23. What "local" antenna would be best for a close to 180/360 degrees surround coverage/access +-1.5 Km radius, an Omni or 2*Sector?
How do you get surround coverage on a highsite node. Must you have multiple antennae pointing in different directions with one or more dish to link to the other main nodes?
According to the wug LOS calculator I have LOS with Primrose 26KM. Would that be possible using a high gain dish? I have direct LOS with Vulcania Watertower on KML. This WaterTower have according to the LOS calculator direct LOS with Primrose, (TB) Trustbank, Nigel, Selcourt, Benoni, etc. Would this be the Ideal Higsite for adding a High speed node?
What equipment would be required to test for signals in various directions to determine best connections to existing Jwug nodes?
Lastly but not least. How do you secure the hardware investment on Water towers against theft/vandalism?
lots of info now at 
Prof.Merlin
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Slick!!!
Prof.Merlin
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Maybe we should get admin to rename this thread to just JAWUG or something. JAWUG - Johannesburg Area Wireless User Group?
Prof.Merlin
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Must be something else 
We not routing any traffic via Grand Central yet. The signal is not stable enough yet. 
Trying to get hold of the correct guys is a mission. Can maybe organise something on the weekend
We not routing any traffic via Grand Central yet. The signal is not stable enough yet. Trying to get hold of the correct guys is a mission. Can maybe organise something on the weekend
I would love to go out to GC to help out, but allass my days are busy and weekends are even worse ;( I really think once the signal issues are sorted out that GC will improve the link between the West and East rand as well as JHB and PTA 
Prof.Merlin
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Well if we complete everything like we want, we will have 2 links to PTA, 1 to west(via fragtion), 1 to east(via EM), 1 to Central(via jozi). I know NM also wants to connect but not sure where he is situated