Nokia (and Microsoft) versus Android and Apple

True, the DynaTAC was the first phone to use a cellular network, be that 1G, but yes - it was the first. GSM speaking though, and show me a non-GSM netwprk, Nokia was first.
 
Ummm nope, it wasn't

1G was not GSM based, it was analog based. I'm somewhat surprised that little fact has escaped you.
 
No, I'm saying Nokia were not the first to provide a Cellular telephone, and that 1G was not GSM.
 
ToxicBunny said:
Guys don't even bother..

Roux is obsessed with Nokia and Symbian and just how awesome they are.... that it sometimes clouds his understanding of history.

Roux, this is generally accepted as the first really popular "cellular" phone : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_DynaTAC
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Rouxenator said:
True, the DynaTAC was the first phone to use a cellular network, be that 1G, but yes - it was the first. GSM speaking though, and show me a non-GSM netwprk, Nokia was first.
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So what was the original argument, that 1G is not GSM or that Motorola was the first Celularphone?
 
From:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_phone#History

The first 1G network launched in the USA was Chicago-based Ameritech in 1983 using the Motorola DynaTAC mobile phone. Several countries then followed in the early-to-mid 1980s including the UK, Mexico and Canada.
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Martin Cooper, a Motorola researcher and executive is considered to be the inventor of the first practical mobile phone for handheld use in a non-vehicle setting, after a long race against Bell Labs for the first portable mobile phone
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Nothing mentioned about Nokia. Your argument is therefor not valid.
 
Excuse me, I might be stupid here, but what I am getting from your post is that you say I am wrong? Now that is usually impossible because of the fact that when I say something it needs no citation, the statement itself is the citation and the source, being me, is a trusted authority.

But enough about my awesomeness - let's talk GSM, the be all and end all in mobile telephony.

Nokia was one of the key developers of GSM (Global System for Mobile Communications),[51] the second-generation mobile technology which could carry data as well as voice traffic. NMT (Nordic Mobile Telephony), the world's first mobile telephony standard that enabled international roaming, provided valuable experience for Nokia for its close participation in developing GSM, which was adopted in 1987 as the new European standard for digital mobile technology.[52][53]

Nokia delivered its first GSM network to the Finnish operator Radiolinja in 1989.[54] The world's first commercial GSM call was made on July 1, 1991 in Helsinki, Finland over a Nokia-supplied network, by then Prime Minister of Finland Harri Holkeri, using a prototype Nokia GSM phone.[54] In 1992, the first GSM phone, the Nokia 1011, was launched.[54][55] The model number refers to its launch date, 10 November.[55] The Nokia 1011 did not yet employ Nokia's characteristic ringtone, the Nokia tune. It was introduced as a ringtone in 1994 with the Nokia 2100 series.[56]
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia

See here is the beauty of it, when I switch on my Nokia 1610 I can still make calls on it. When you switch on a Motorola DynaTAC - what can you do with it?
 
All hail the great and awesome....

Back to the discussion, Nokia is not going to cut it anymore.
I am going to move away from Nokia since they just can't keep up. One problem is how do you control your computer from a Nokia N97?
 
Rouxenator said:
Excuse me, I might be stupid here, but what I am getting from your post is that you say I am wrong? Now that is usually impossible because of the fact that when I say something it needs no citation, the statement itself is the citation and the source, being me, is a trusted authority.

But enough about my awesomeness - let's talk GSM, the be all and end all in mobile telephony.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia

See here is the beauty of it, when I switch on my Nokia 1610 I can still make calls on it. When you switch on a Motorola DynaTAC - what can you do with it?
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But your original argument was about cellular/mobile phones.. not GSM phones specifically though.... so you are still wrong.
 
B.O.F.H. said:
But your original argument was about cellular/mobile phones.. not GSM phones specifically though.... so you are still wrong.
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True, except for the fact that I am right. GSM speaking, and really GSM is all that matters, Nokia was first.
Not that it means anything about their performance or portfolio today, but its kinda cool because its pointless and ambiguous.
 
From:
http://asia.cnet.com/nokia-bets-big-on-symbian-smartphones-62202913.htm
While many people remained skeptical over how the Finnish mobile giant plans to take on Apple's iPhone and Google's Android devices, one thing is clear. Nokia is not giving up on Symbian.
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This was on 15 Sep 2010. And now they teamed with Microsoft....


Fast forward:
http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/242696/nokia_lumia_smartphones_are_disappointing.html
Nokia Lumia Smartphones Are Disappointing
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When you show up late to a party, you should at least bring a bottle of wine (or a case of beer depending on the party). Nokia's highly-anticipated launch of Windows Phone 7.5 "Mango" smartphones comes fairly late in the game, and doesn't seem to add anything to make it worth the wait.
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The Lumia did disappoint me somewhat. 512MB RAM and single core, where as the rest are on 1GB and dual core.
 
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