The only retard lately on MyBB seems to be You. That's what other people in the other thread also alluded too. Again your astounding logic is astonishing and I can clearly see under what education system you grew up. The fact remains that blaming apartheid for the current failing education is and remains pathetic (just like your attitude and post) and that 17 years after apartheid was abolished and under a system that was specially created for and reduced to a level to aid the previously disadvantaged people. The only observation I can deduce from your logic and argument is that somehow the legacy of apartheid have diminished the brain capacity of todays students and it would take a few decades or centuries for the effect to be restored to normal, if ever. Judging from your posts it seems very possible. By the way in case you missed your own post, none of the students that failed the Maths and Science in the year the MEC was referring too studied under the old Bantu Education system. They all studied under the current education system. Now it seems to me that exactly there is the difference you seem to have missed. You must have studied under the old system then.
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The only retard lately on MyBB seems to be You. That's what other people in the other thread also alluded too. Again your astounding logic is astonishing and I can clearly see under what education system you grew up. The fact remains that blaming apartheid for the current failing education is and remains pathetic (just like your attitude and post) and that 17 years after apartheid was abolished and under a system that was specially created for and reduced to a level to aid the previously disadvantaged people. The only observation I can deduce from your logic and argument is that somehow the legacy of apartheid have diminished the brain capacity of todays students and it would take a few decades or centuries for the effect to be restored to normal, if ever. Judging from your posts it seems very possible. By the way in case you missed your own post, none of the students that failed the Maths and Science in the year the MEC was referring too studied under the old Bantu Education system. They all studied under the current education system. Now it seems to me that exactly there is the difference you seem to have missed. You must have studied under the old system then.
Be honest with me now lad, what's your education attainment? You sound like you haven't graduated high school yet because you're clearly not getting the idea of what's going on. Your comprehension skills are quite lacking (I blame the education system). And please stop brining in other same minded fools as you as proof to substantiate your little argument. I don't refer to other posters to verify my sources, I actually post links and facts.
You are an absolute douche if you actually think Bantu education hasn't affected this country. You are one of those retards who cry out "educate the people" and that our "education in this country is bad so its not good for our future" but won't accept that 30 years of Bantu Education can impair a person's life and the country. Very drastically. Lets see how you would live your life if you and your dad has shyte education. Your children won't be very smart either, as they would be from a poor family with lots of children. What do poor people do? Not send their kids to school as they are needed home. What do poor people do? Crime. What do poor people do? Have lots of kids. What do poor people do? Blindly vote for party that is no good for them again and again after they make promises right before elections.
OBVIOUSLY the kids today don't have Bantu education! Do you think I lack logic like you? Did you read when I aid "butterfly effect". Do you even know what that means?
I said it in another thread.... Black kids from St Johns College have the same high marks as white kids from St John's College. Black kids from Kathlego High School won't. It's all about opportunity, something a lot of whites have, and what a few blacks have such as in St John's. Bantu has cut off any opportunity for many many people. And you need to realise that.
You are an absolute douche if you actually think Bantu education hasn't affected this country. You are one of those retards who cry out "educate the people" and that our "education in this country is bad so its not good for our future" but won't accept that 30 years of Bantu Education can impair a person's life and the country. Very drastically. Lets see how you would live your life if you and your dad has shyte education. Your children won't be very smart either, as they would be from a poor family with lots of children. What do poor people do? Not send their kids to school as they are needed home. What do poor people do? Crime. What do poor people do? Have lots of kids. What do poor people do? Blindly vote for party that is no good for them again and again after they make promises right before elections.
OBVIOUSLY the kids today don't have Bantu education! Do you think I lack logic like you? Did you read when I aid "butterfly effect". Do you even know what that means?
I said it in another thread.... Black kids from St Johns College have the same high marks as white kids from St John's College. Black kids from Kathlego High School won't. It's all about opportunity, something a lot of whites have, and what a few blacks have such as in St John's. Bantu has cut off any opportunity for many many people. And you need to realise that.
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You are the douche here. Again we all know what happened in the past. We all know that Apartheid created a backlog and we are all paying dearly for that. That was many years ago, it's now time to move forward.
To now claim that the students of today are failing because of the Bantu education system in the past are stupid. These students are getting subject matter as per the current education system and therefore they should be able to perform on par or better else rather a huge question should be placed on the current failing education system as implemented. It's got nothing to do with Apartheid or Verwoerd. Now get of your stuck record you repeat in every other fsucking thread and be sensible about the situation as it is today. Stop living in the past with your old Bantu education.
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Exactly that, The fact that Kathlego High School cannot perform the same as St John's College has nothing to do with the old Bantu Education neither with Vewoerd. Blame the current Government for wasting money and resources on everything but where it's really needed. Give the Kathlego school the same levels of standard as St John's College and then there should be no problem. The fact that you allude that poor peoples kids are less capable that others are just stupid and sick to say the least.
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WTF. Whats your IQ? Like 60?
How many posts do I have to write "oppurtunity", "butterfly effect" and give examples involving your parents?
If your parents didn't have an education because yur government wanted you in a specific class (Now look here before you get more confused, I use "class" in context with social status" and not classroom
), your'e not going to get one either! You're too poor. Your parents are too uneducated to get skilled jobs, earn enough money to educate you and send you to a good school! You simply don't have the oppurtunity, and chanes are your kids won't either. It's called a poverty trap. You're hungry now and crime sounds good don't it? Dear lord Megas go to school and learn.
How many posts do I have to write "oppurtunity", "butterfly effect" and give examples involving your parents?
If your parents didn't have an education because yur government wanted you in a specific class (Now look here before you get more confused, I use "class" in context with social status" and not classroom
), your'e not going to get one either! You're too poor. Your parents are too uneducated to get skilled jobs, earn enough money to educate you and send you to a good school! You simply don't have the oppurtunity, and chanes are your kids won't either. It's called a poverty trap. You're hungry now and crime sounds good don't it? Dear lord Megas go to school and learn.WTF. Whats your IQ? Like 60?
How many posts do I have to write "oppurtunity", "butterfly effect" and give examples involving your parents?
If your parents didn't have an education because yur government wanted you in a specific class (Now look here before you get more confused, I use "class" in context with social status" and not classroom
So you are saying these students the MEC are referring to are poor and are not getting education at all. For me it seems they are getting the opportunity, how difficult that may be, and did not pass maths and science at all. For lack of a real reason and short of blaming the current ANC created education system the MEC blamed Verwoerd and now You blame the Bantu education system. Good shiite are you to stuck on your old apartheid record and Bantu education system, you seem to have received, to really grasp this simple statement.
There you said they did not have the opportunity. If that is fact how the Fsuck did they write the exam then and failed math and science? So if as you stated it's not a good school, who's fault is that. Verwoerd or the current government that promised a good education for all but rather wasted the money on other luxuries?
alloytoo
Honorary Master
In the context of blame, the ANC also needs to shoulder some. The policy of "liberation before education" seems to persist through to today, and, when compared to the performances of the Indian and coloured groups, done the black population group a grave disservice.
The ANC's education system lost 72% of it's original intake in respect of it's 2010 year. Not for nothing do I call it Bantu Education 2.
Exactly.
You will be surprised what is the drop out rate at varsity. The current education system is a huge farce and luckily it seems that some ministers took note of the fact (just maybe they did not the receive Bantu Education
). Just a pitty it effects a whole generation of learners. Too little too late I presume.alloytoo, if you read above, you will find I do think the current education is terrible. If you read my other posts, you will see me critisize our education a lot.
MegasXLR. You just don't understand the concept of cause and the coming and added effects.
Education can solve a countrys problems. Becuase of the bad education, you can blame the current education and inffecenies based on the inital bad foundation of education. I don't know how to put it simpler thn that. A lot of South Africa's problems are rooted in Bantu Education, do you now need a an economics paper report to show you this?
What is so hard to understandBad education = slow learners. These slow learners who are in poverty and crime breed more slow learners. Slow learners cannot learn as well, parents don't help with homework, too poor to afford Model C or private schools, need children at home to look after family or earn money at young age = slower learners. Slow learners = drop in education level as government needs to up bell curve. Ergo, the bad education in South Africa can be directly attributed to Verwoerd's bright idea of dumbing down the black populace
No please do not. This thread started because of a stupid comment by a MEC and you are trying to force your own personal same old stupid agenda as you do in every other ANC related threads.
Stop blaming the past for all your shiite and take note that we are nearly two decades down the line. For students and MEC's to blame the past for current lack of performance of students that fail to achieve results would achieve nothing. If the failures are only at certain specific schools than that should be addressed by government, they have the power to do it.
Lets rephrase what the MEC said, which YOU are misrepresenting.
Then you blamed Verwoerd for aids, the white exodus, etc. Now why not also then blame the Settlers as they came to this land initially, What about the British, they created some of the original systems and infrastructure. What about Jan van Riebeeck? Same arguments.
Your blame mentality is the one and the same as the ANC government. Instead of solving the problem you blame everything on the past, even the failures in the current education system created by the current regime. They admitted themselves there is something wrong with the system, it's not working, so I presume they are wrong and YOU are right.
So sad that you have to come and mar a big joke thread on the MEC for his stupid comments.
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alloytoo
Honorary Master
Rooted in Bantu education and the ANC's failure (back then) to invest in education, unlike the coloured and especially the Indian communities who invested heavily in education.
Mila
Honorary Master
Oh hell lol!! Lovely.
Why not sue him?
Idiot.
Why not sue him?
Idiot.
People, are you taking BORAMK's comments seriously?Not only He is confused but somehow He managed to confuse everyone who bothers with him. Typical and representative of the ANC
He is not vying ANC?
Mila
Honorary Master
Bantu Education stopped when?
Bantu education Started?
Why was Bantu education started?
Bantu education Started?
Why was Bantu education started?
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ROFLOL, I almost fell of my chair after I read that last bit ... what a load of BS!
Seriously Maths and Sci are subjects that need to be worked at constantly
the lazy buggers who don't make it are the ones who didn't work at it hard enough.
Seriously Maths and Sci are subjects that need to be worked at constantly
the lazy buggers who don't make it are the ones who didn't work at it hard enough.
Venomous
Honorary Master
I just read the article.
My response is still :wtf: :wtf: :wtf:
Why doesn't the idjit just go back a few more years & sue the guys that started maths.
He'll have a beeger problem if they do away with maths: how will people be able to know that 1+1 really = 2 or if another person is lying to them?
My response is still :wtf: :wtf: :wtf:
Why doesn't the idjit just go back a few more years & sue the guys that started maths.
He'll have a beeger problem if they do away with maths: how will people be able to know that 1+1 really = 2 or if another person is lying to them?
Therefore boramk and his ANC compatriots blame Verwoerd and the past as there is nothing wrong with the current education system as I understand it now, boramk seem to allude history dumbed down the current SA students to such a point that they learners cannot pass those subjects and it's all the fault of Dr Verwoerd as he created Apartheid and, it therefore it must be concluded according to boramk, the current education system.
Mila
Honorary Master
Oh I googled it. Bantu Education only started in 1953.
BADBAD verwoerd. The lightbulb has been invented and you just had too get it all complicated.
The Periodic table that is your fault as well.
BADBAD verwoerd. The lightbulb has been invented and you just had too get it all complicated.
The Periodic table that is your fault as well.
Venomous
Honorary Master
Another interesting point:
The schooling changed afte the '94 elections. That means the children in matric now have all been educated POST-apartheid.
Does anyone know what the pass rates were PRE-'94?