Official Man United Supporters' Thread

[Badprop_za]

Kags is pure silk at times.. Seems the team has failed him too often rather than the other way around.

[video=youtube;9VWo15oL7o4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VWo15oL7o4[/video]

From that clip it looks like ManU seriously either don't know how or don't want to score goals.

 

[Alan]

Carries on like this to the end of the season Moyes will have to go. Can the board really entrust him with rebuilding the squad considering the amounts they'll have too invest?

A line has to be drawn somewhere

 

[RyanCK7]

Think the team also needs a bit of the old hairdryer! Moyes should stop making excuses for poor results and start looking at change of tactics because we're to predictable! The team i would like to see and would probably outscore any team, because lets face it our defense is dodge to say the least..

De Gea

Rafael. Smalling. Vidic. Evra

Carrick

Mata. Kagawa. Januzaj

Rooney. Van Persie

I know mata and januzaj will have to do a lot of defending in this formation, but feel to be successful they need to work on it, espicially mata

 

[rsifan]

Think the team also needs a bit of the old hairdryer! Moyes should stop making excuses for poor results and start looking at change of tactics because we're to predictable! The team i would like to see and would probably outscore any team, because lets face it our defense is dodge to say the least..

De Gea

Rafael. Smalling. Jones Evra

Carrick

Mata. Kagawa. Januzaj

Rooney. Van Persie

I know mata and januzaj will have to do a lot of defending in this formation, but feel to be successful they need to work on it, espicially mata

My only change would be Vidic for Jones, and anybody for Evra....

 

[thestaggy]

Doesnt any new manager inherit a team? Didnt Martinez, Pellegrini and Mourinho all find themselves in the same boat? Hes had two transfer windows to change that also so he has had time. Mata highlights our problem - 3 games and 3 assists, already the second highest assists in the squad.

Moyes identified the midfield as a weakness the moment he walked in. He also identified left back as a weakness. Both areas have hurt the team all season. it is not his fault Woodward dicked the June window and it is quite clear that when he finally got a classy mid he wanted there is a difference in the side. Moyes knows what is wrong and I believe he can fix it when he gets the players he wants (as evidenced by Mata).

You cannot compare Mourinho's & Pellegrini's situations to Moyes'. As for Martinez, he inherited Moyes' stalwart defence and capped it of by bringing in the attacking players he wanted. Martinez's Wigan always played attacking, attractive football, but it was undone by porous defence. Now he has a defence Moyes built and has capped it off by bringing in a handful of key players he desired.

Moyes inherited an aging and decaying United squad thick on numbers and low on outright class. I wouldn't be the first to say that the side that won the league last season was probably the weakest Fergie has ever had and the fact that the star-studded Chelsea and City sides misfired and spluttered no doubt made life easier.

The legendary Ferguson should not be untouchable when it comes to criticism, but he is guilty of handing over an old team with few quality youngsters coming up. Jones, Smalling, Cleverley, Welbeck, hardly the worst players in the league and at times they can be very good, but these are not the players that would be guaranteed a spot in the teams above United in the league.

 

[SinghDude]

Yeah... Nobody has a clue HTF UTD won the league last year.


Alot of luck perhaps, Fergie time and alot more luck... Really was a poor team last year. The reality is finally setting it...Huge makeover required !!!!!

 

[thestaggy]

Hernandez and Rio have recently posted about being unhappy under Moyes, now its Zaha's turn.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BgI-d_9CUAAtNEZ.png:large

Hernandez and Rio will hopefully no longer be with the squad next season, they offer nothing. As for Zaha, that is a Fergie signing. Moyes built Jagielka, Baines and Osman into quality players, so Moyes can believe in a player if he sees something he likes. Not every manager appreciates the same player.

The sooner the team is cleared out the better. Tear it down and rebuild it, bringing in players you want and players that don't need someone screaming at them to actually put some effort in. Some of them have played some great football for the club and have contributed to its recent successes, but they are also over the hill or just not what they used to be.

 

[Unhappy438]

We have done the squad strength argument already. I dont think you should throw certain players under the bus, who have done it for us in the past because they currently aren't performing. They are under a manager who is showing to be tactically inept and one dimensional.

 

[RyanCK7]

The only difference from last season is confidence.. We won the league because we knew we can win while playing just as bad as this year, only difference now is the players clearly don't believe they can win and they're not good enough. As for some of the veterans, I think now is a vital time to retain them for one or two seasons but with more bit part role with youngsters coming through learning from them. Think we will miss CL for the next 2 seasons and hopefully get back in there and not just turn into liverpool

 

[RyanCK7]

We have done the squad strength argument already. I dont think you should throw certain players under the bus, who have done it for us in the past because they currently aren't performing. They are under a manager who is showing to be tactically inept and one dimensional.

Moyes needs to take a lesson in tactics from Klopp who also uses crossing efectively, but knows that a slick passing move through the middle is just as effective and we do have the squad for it! Just needs to use it!

 

[skimread]

Man Utd has no defence. Expect a high scoring match today. 4-3 to Arsenal.

 

[thestaggy]

We have done the squad strength argument already. I dont think you should throw certain players under the bus, who have done it for us in the past because they currently aren't performing. They are under a manager who is showing to be tactically inept and one dimensional.

Evra - Defensive liability. Period. Bombs forward with glee, can no longer backtrack and his positioning when defending is horrendous. At 32 does he get better? 33 when the 2014/15 season kicks off.

Ferdinand - Injury prone and nowhere near what he used to be. Great player in his prime but the club and the world of football has definitely seen the best he has to offer.

Vidic - As highlighted in the Fulham game, he has clearly lost a step. And like Ferdinand, injuries are a constant issue. However, the only one of the three veteran defenders that could still have offered something as a #3 centreback behind a younger starting combination or a starting back against tough opposition.

Young - He's hasn't performed for about two seasons now, how much longer can you hold out?

Cleverley - LOL.

Hernandez - What does he exactly do again? All I ever see is him running, then stopping because he's been caught offside for the fifth time since coming on as a sub two minutes ago.

Kagawa - Fergie wasted him. Moyes is wasting him. Better served offloading him for the left-winger Fergie should have bought in the first place.

33-year old Carrick, 40-year old Giggs and 30-year old Fletcher clearly highlight the need for two young, classy deep-lying midfielders to come. The fact that Rooney, a ST-turned CAM-turned occasional deep-lying playmaker/midfield enforcer is further indication of the rot in midfield beyond the aforementioned veterans.

I do not see how anyone cannot question the current quality of this squad and the obvious holes moving a season or two down the line.

 

[Maverick Jester]

I know mata and januzaj will have to do a lot of defending in this formation, but feel to be successful they need to work on it, espicially mata

Because he did this so well at Chelsea?

 

[Stickfigure]

Thoughts on tonights game? Think Moyes is going to use the exact same formations and tactics as the Fulham game?

I don't have much hope. Expecting a terrible game.

 

[Maverick Jester]

Thoughts on tonights game? Think Moyes is going to use the exact same formations and tactics as the Fulham game?

I don't have much hope. Expecting a terrible game.

I have a suspicion that United will win tonight. They usually do, regardless of form...

 

[RyanCK7]

Because he did this so well at Chelsea?

He didnt do as bad as Mou was saying, but he didnt always track back and playing on either flank, mostly on the left with evra we need a winger thats not afraid when the fullback goes pass him. I really liked the valencia of two seasons ago when he still could pick someone with the cross and still defended as well.

 

[RyanCK7]

I have a suspicion that United will win tonight. They usually do, regardless of form...

Me 2! Somehow arsenal has been a bit of a given for us lately! Hope it continues

 

[RyanCK7]

Thoughts on tonights game? Think Moyes is going to use the exact same formations and tactics as the Fulham game?

I don't have much hope. Expecting a terrible game.

Thats probably not the answer your looking for

 

[Maverick Jester]

He didnt do as bad as Mou was saying, but he didnt always track back and playing on either flank, mostly on the left with evra we need a winger thats not afraid when the fullback goes pass him. I really liked the valencia of two seasons ago when he still could pick someone with the cross and still defended as well.

Mourinho didn't say that he did badly, but he didn't do it well. Mata doesn't have the ability to track back and defend- you waste his best attributes by having him do so.

 

[cenredash]

I wonder who's going to be the next SAF to David Moyes' Ron Atkinson.

At least he won't break the record for the shortest time as manager.