Official Premier League Thread 2012/2013

thestaggy said:
Well, only 10 of the current clubs have been there since 2006/07. I've compiled a list of all 33 Premier League clubs that have been in the league since 2006/07 and their spending. The current 10 EPL clubs are in bold. The figures in brackets are the amount of seasons they have spent in the top flight since 2006/07. Figures are also in millions and pounds.

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You should really look at net transfer spend though. Arsenal might have spent 211mil, but they sold players to the value of R250mil. Which brings their net spend to +/- profit of 40 mil.

That would make Arsenals spending the lowest of all the teams currently in the EPL.

http://www.talksport.co.uk/magazine...lub-revealed-2006-when-arsenal-moved-s-194227
 
thestaggy said:
True. Their seasonal average spend is not that bad though. Of the current clubs only Everton, Fulham, Wigan, West Brom, Swansea, Reading and Norwich have spent less per season.

Then again, how much longer can they sustain spending 22 million per season before they get caught with their pants down? Wigan, Everton & Fulham spent at similar levels until 3/4 seasons ago before they slowed down.
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They are on a slippery slope already I think. That level of spending for a club of their meagre income will catch up with them sooner rather than later- it always does...
 
Maverick Jester said:
Money well spent...
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They haven't won any major honours since 2005, so from a football standpoint no. From a business standpoint you can argue that they made a profit.

If you look at United and the types of commercial deals they can get on the back of their success, I would argue that from a business point was a failure as well. Back in early 2000 there wasn't much between Arsenal and United and we were catching up on the financial front. These day's we're way behind and most of that comes from commecial deals that United can get due to their success on the pitch.
 
RexxGrim said:
They haven't won any major honours since 2005, so from a football standpoint no. From a business standpoint you can argue that they made a profit.

If you look at United and the types of commercial deals they can get on the back of their success, I would argue that from a business point was a failure as well. Back in early 2000 there wasn't much between Arsenal and United and we were catching up on the financial front. These day's we're way behind and most of that comes from commecial deals that United can get due to their success on the pitch.
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I dunno- United run a pretty good ship. The Yanks' debt aside, they outstrip all other teams in terms of revenue quite handily. And this is not only due to their commercial deals- their actual matchday and merchandising revenue is through the roof.

But- their success has played a significant part in that, no doubt about that. It is just endemic to the footballing world.
 
Maverick Jester said:
They are on a slippery slope already I think. That level of spending for a club of their meagre income will catch up with them sooner rather than later- it always does...
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Surprisingly they seem to be in an okay position debt wise. As per their financial report released for year end 31 May 2012, they ''only'' have debts of 14 million pounds. The owner is also supportive of financial fair play initiatives and is planning to cut the wage bill to control debts.
 
thestaggy said:
Surprisingly they seem to be in an okay position debt wise. As per their financial report released for year end 31 May 2012, they ''only'' have debts of 14 million pounds. The owner is also supportive of financial fair play initiatives and is planning to cut the wage bill to control debts.
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Goodbye Michael Owen then :D

What I am interested to know, is if that 14 million is debt in terms of financial debt, or FFP-portrayed debt...
 
Utd used to have massive debt problems but these days it's well under control and in fact it can be healthy to have some debt.
 
Maverick Jester said:
Goodbye Michael Owen then :D

What I am interested to know, is if that 14 million is debt in terms of financial debt, or FFP-portrayed debt...
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Well, the figures were released last year and FFP was only ratified by the Premier League this year, so I'd chance that the figure is in terms of financial debt.
 
So, looks like QPR, Reading and Wigan are going down.. To be replaced with Cardiff, Hull and Brighton.

I can see Wigan doing a Blackburn and dropping down further, QPR will be promoted again and reading will stay down.

I went to Brighton's stadium last month and its very nice, will be nice to see it on TV.
 
Rosaudio said:
So, looks like QPR, Reading and Wigan are going down.. To be replaced with Cardiff, Hull and Brighton.

I can see Wigan doing a Blackburn and dropping down further, QPR will be promoted again and reading will stay down.

I went to Brighton's stadium last month and its very nice, will be nice to see it on TV.
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Blackburn are safe. For now. Wolves are the ones that will be relegated two seasons in a row.

Hull look like they could bottle second place and lose it to Watford. I'd like to see Brighton or Nottingham Forest come up through the playoffs. And that stadium is nice. Much better than that shoddy atheltics field with temporary stands they used to play at.
 
thestaggy said:
Blackburn are safe. For now. Wolves are the ones that will be relegated two seasons in a row.

Hull look like they could bottle second place and lose it to Watford. I'd like to see Brighton or Nottingham Forest come up through the playoffs. And that stadium is nice. Much better than that shoddy atheltics field with temporary stands they used to play at.
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Yeah, sorry I meant I can see Wigan dropping to the second half of the Championship table. Wolves are almost certainly down, only a freak set of results can save them.

Just looked at the fixtures and see that Hull have to play Cardiff. Hmm... They could bottle it yes, if Watford win to Leeds and Hull only manage a draw/loss. Then again it looks like Cardiff are a bit out of it now that they have nothing to play for.

Yeah, the stadium is great. Padded seats, lots of room, lovely pies and they throw out sweets at half time to the away fan's kids :D ( I was too big to get any though)
 
Rosaudio said:
Yeah, sorry I meant I can see Wigan dropping to the second half of the Championship table. Wolves are almost certainly down, only a freak set of results can save them.

Just looked at the fixtures and see that Hull have to play Cardiff. Hmm... They could bottle it yes, if Watford win to Leeds and Hull only manage a draw/loss. Then again it looks like Cardiff are a bit out of it now that they have nothing to play for.

Yeah, the stadium is great. Padded seats, lots of room, lovely pies and they throw out sweets at half time to the away team's kids :D
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Wolves have to go away to Brighton for their last game, so it does not look good for them at all as Brighton are in good form. And yeah, Cardiff have had a few poor showings since confirming their promotion. Party atmosphere for them.

Nice. Sounds like they have a good thing going for them, Brighton.
 
Are we there yet?

Ahhhhh.....when does the football start again. I am suffering from withdrawel.

Edit:

The 2013/14 Premier League season will kick off on Saturday 17 August 2013. Fixtures will be announced at 9:00am on Wednesday 19 June, with the first set of television picks selected approximately 2-3 weeks later.
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:(
 
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Freakin' transfer window hasn't even opened yet... Still a long, smelly (bullsh.t infested) way to go.
 
On the official EPL website's Popular FAQs:

Coming in at number 3: (I assume they are ranked in order of most frequently asked)

3) Are referees trained?

:D
 
Cool. So on the 19th of June we'll know who Arsenal's first win of the season will be against :whistle:
lol at "Are referees trained?"
 
Rosaudio said:
So, looks like QPR, Reading and Wigan are going down.. To be replaced with Cardiff, Hull and Brighton.

I can see Wigan doing a Blackburn and dropping down further, QPR will be promoted again and reading will stay down.

I went to Brighton's stadium last month and its very nice, will be nice to see it on TV.
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Brighton lost to Crystal Palace so did Watford 1-0 ;)
 
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