Official Premier League Thread 2012/2013

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PFA Player of the Year award shortlist

Gareth Bale, Michael Carrick, Eden Hazard, Juan Mata, Luis Suárez and Robin van Persie

PFA Young Player of the Year award shortlist

Gareth Bale, Christian Benteke, Eden Hazard, Romelu Lukaku, Danny Welbeck, Jack Wilshere
 
Wonder who will win? Depsite RvP going 2 months without scoring, he's still only 1 goal behind Suarez. You can make a strong case for all those players.
 
Randhir said:
PFA Player of the Year award shortlist

Gareth Bale, Michael Carrick, Eden Hazard, Juan Mata, Luis Suárez and Robin van Persie

PFA Young Player of the Year award shortlist

Gareth Bale, Christian Benteke, Eden Hazard, Romelu Lukaku, Danny Welbeck, Jack Wilshere
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Stickfigure said:
Wonder who will win? Depsite RvP going 2 months without scoring, he's still only 1 goal behind Suarez. You can make a strong case for all those players.
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I don't know what Hazard, Welbeck or Wilshere are doing on that list. Michu would take Hazard's place in the main category for me. Nastasic or Rafael for young player.
 
Randhir said:
I don't know what Hazard, Welbeck or Wilshere are doing on that list. Michu would take Hazard's place in the main category for me. Nastasic or Rafael for young player.
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Agree with most of what you said.
Who bribed who to get Michael Carrick on there :erm:
 
Randhir said:
I don't know what Hazard, Welbeck or Wilshere are doing on that list. Michu would take Hazard's place in the main category for me. Nastasic or Rafael for young player.
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I was referring to the PFA, not Young PFA, I should've said so. I suppose you could replace Hazard with Michu. Michu has had a bigger impact on his team than Hazard.
 
Stickfigure said:
I was referring to the PFA, not Young PFA, I should've said so. I suppose you could replace Hazard with Michu. Michu has had a bigger impact on his team than Hazard.
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Hazard's been poor when Mata isn't there to pull the strings.
 
Randhir said:
Who's missing except the ones I mentioned? Can't have too long a shortlist.
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Yeah, edited my post... Yes, I agree with Nastasic + Rafael but a couple of random names that come to mind - Schneiderlin, Zabaleta, Walcott, Rickie Lambert. And when you throw Michael Carrick into the equation as a sample then I'm sure I can find 20 more players to add :p
 
MartyMarts said:
Yeah, edited my post... Yes, I agree with Nastasic + Rafael but a couple of random names that come to mind - Schneiderlin, Zabaleta, Walcott, Rickie Lambert.
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Yeah I agree with those.. Walcott though? I'd have Cazorla in it before Theo.

MartyMarts said:
And when you throw Michael Carrick into the equation as a sample then I'm sure I can find 20 more players to add :p
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Oy.. :p
 
Have a good weekend boys and girls. May Arsenal win :D

...and may Liverpool and Man City win too :twisted: but only this weekend then they can carry on how they please afterwards :p
 
Just so people know wtf is going on in that table. Also that was published in Feb, so league positions etc are more than 2 months old :erm:

The right two columns represent the current league table drawn to scale. The wage costs (shown in the two left columns) are based on either, recently published wage costs for the 2011/12 season, or, where not available, an estimate of the wage bill.
The wage costs are highly polarised with Man City spending £200m on wages, whereas clubs like Swansea spend only around £35m. Manchester City's (and Chelsea's) spending generates a stretched table with only a few high wage-paying clubs at the top, but most of the clubs paying broadly similar wages around the lower part of the table.
The green and red lines show the clubs that have significantly over-performed (green line) or under-performed (red line) against their wages expenditure. Looking at the clubs who have most over-performed, we see:
Man Utd, Tottenham, Swansea, Everton, West Brom, Stoke, Norwich and Southampton
The stretching of the wages table has the effect of somewhat over-emphasising the achievements of the lower teams in the league table - however by any standards, these teams have all had a rather good season.
There are six teams that the table suggests have under-performed given the resources at their disposal:
Man City, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool, Villa and QPR
Interestingly, these are the teams where the managers have probably been under most pressure this season.
It is not a perfect model by any means but does articulate the concept that performance expectation is driven by the amount of money a club spends on wages - when a club's league performance falls below this level, the sack-race odds shorten. When the team over-performs compared to their wage-bill, they are often the ones where the managers receive the media plaudits (e.g. Moyes, Laudrup, Villas-Boas and even Ferguson).
We can expect City and Chelsea's spending to be reigned-in as FFP and the PL spending constraints bite. We should start to see the wages element of the chart become less stretched. One of the risks of the new rules is that Manchester United might take over Manchester City's role as the high spenders in the division. A high wage budget in the hands of a manager who can consistently get the maximum performance from the expenditure, could result in a Premier League procession.
But as the chart shows, there is a distinct difference between having a high wage bill and having a manager who knows what to do with the funds.
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hawker said:
Just so people know wtf is going on in that table. Also that was published in Feb, so league positions etc are more than 2 months old :erm:
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True. I found it interesting nonetheless.
 
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