well you want the smaller clubs to keep hold of the players for as long as possible but at the same time not hinder the players development.
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well you want the smaller clubs to keep hold of the players for as long as possible but at the same time not hinder the players development.
I don't think players would be very happy with it, as the system would prevent them from earning the wages that they would earn if they were playing for a bigger club?
I don't completely disagree with your proposal I'm just trying to point out potential snags...
Argh, I hate agents. Money grabbing scumbags
They've butchered more than a few young players careers.
Scary how they completely run these players lives. In there 20s but have no clue how to run their lives.
Gary Neville commented.....
Neville, who has previously relied on his father to manage his off-field affairs, admits that he is bewildered by the willingness
of many of his contemporaries to place their careers in the hands of agents. And he claims that some players are now so
reliant on their advisers that they cannot even manage their own bank account. He said: "I completely agree with his [Ferguson's] sentiments. It is one of my pet hates when I see players who have agents
that do everything for them. "They don't know how to set up their own bank account, they don't know what they're spending their money on and they can't
make their own decisions. "Not every player is like that, but some are now totally dependent on agents and advisers." Neville has urged his fellow professionals to take more responsibility for their careers to avoid being left to pick up the pieces
once they retire. He said: "There are some agents who do a good job looking after players, but there are others who stifle and mollycoddle
players. "Some agents will come into a player's life when he is 20, leave his life at 34 and never want to know that player again. "For me, life is an education and you learn things as you go through it. I think a footballer should sit down and negotiate with a
club, even if his agent is sitting with him. "It is in a player's best interests to be there and see what is going on. The idea of allowing someone to look after your financial and professional existence is something I cannot agree with. "Every footballer needs an adviser at some point. But a player doesn't need to pay between five and 15 per cent of his wages
to a guy to set up a bank account, buy him a new fridge, or ask his club's chief executive for a pay rise."
Gary Neville commented.....
Neville, who has previously relied on his father to manage his off-field affairs, admits that he is bewildered by the willingness
of many of his contemporaries to place their careers in the hands of agents. And he claims that some players are now so
reliant on their advisers that they cannot even manage their own bank account. He said: "I completely agree with his [Ferguson's] sentiments. It is one of my pet hates when I see players who have agents
that do everything for them. "They don't know how to set up their own bank account, they don't know what they're spending their money on and they can't
make their own decisions. "Not every player is like that, but some are now totally dependent on agents and advisers." Neville has urged his fellow professionals to take more responsibility for their careers to avoid being left to pick up the pieces
once they retire. He said: "There are some agents who do a good job looking after players, but there are others who stifle and mollycoddle
players. "Some agents will come into a player's life when he is 20, leave his life at 34 and never want to know that player again. "For me, life is an education and you learn things as you go through it. I think a footballer should sit down and negotiate with a
club, even if his agent is sitting with him. "It is in a player's best interests to be there and see what is going on. The idea of allowing someone to look after your financial and professional existence is something I cannot agree with. "Every footballer needs an adviser at some point. But a player doesn't need to pay between five and 15 per cent of his wages
to a guy to set up a bank account, buy him a new fridge, or ask his club's chief executive for a pay rise."
thestaggy
Honorary Master
That is not guaranteed. Football is littered with promising youngsters that never work out. Your star striker may be rated at 10 million pounds now but two years later he may be seen as nothing more than an average forward.
As for your second quote, in England outside of the big Premiership clubs the smaller clubs are almost always cash-strapped, with many on the brink of administration or recovering from administration. They willingly sell their promising stars as soon as they can to balance the books. Championship side Birmingham City, who are in a dire financial position, actively shopped their young star English goalkeeper (Jack Butland) and got Stoke City to bite. They cash in now before it is too late. Some smaller clubs even use their academies as a source of income. Develop young talent and ship them off to bigger clubs for a pretty penny or two.
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craigdoepie
Expert Member
That is so sad, as Birmingham will probably never play in the Premier League again. The smaller clubs do need the money and by enforcing the rule. Bigger clubs are not going to be so eager to purchase these players. In the end many small clubs will go bankrupt.
Also if that player maybe doesn't perform like the club would like and can't give him proper game time, they don't have any option for him to gain more experience. He will either have to sit on the bench and maybe hope for an injury so he can get a run.
thestaggy
Honorary Master
That has happened to a number of former Premiership clubs. They extend their wage bills and exceed their means when spending on players in an effort to stay up and when they get relegated the bottom falls out. The worst is the double relegation brought on by financial woes. The team has to effectively gut the squad and replace it with a much cheaper and lower quality side in an effort to cut the wage bill and service their debt after being relegated but the weakend squad is unable to compete and they suffer a successive relegation. When that happens administration is only a few months away.
The signing of and loaning back is really a win-win for everybody. The smaller club gets some financial assistance, the bigger club hopefully lands a future star and the future star is still allowed to earn regular first team experience. Stoke sent Butland straight back to Birmingham as well, so they still get to keep their star to finish their season and they need him as they are not clear of the drop zone.
Hard to believe that is the defense that's conceded the 4th least goals in the EPL.
Stickfigure
Honorary Master
Martin O'Neill sacked!
Good. Don't like him at all.
Stickfigure
Honorary Master
Why?
Glorified long ball manager.
Sunderland looking to strengthen their rightwing.
RedWill
Expert Member
Rosaudio
First Officer
Well thats Bale's season over.
thestaggy
Honorary Master
To be fair prior to the end of last season and this season he was a very good manager. He done wonders with Wycombe Wanderers and Leceister City, had them punching well above their weight, and he very nearly got Aston Villa into the Champions League, finishing 6th for three consecutive seasons before his departure. It just may be that he lost his touch. Not every manager has the staying power of Sir Alex.
Rosaudio
First Officer
Cardiff promoted.