Official Real Madrid Supporters' Thread

falcon786 said:
I think it was when they were on a winning run for a few seasons and I simply got bored of them always winning,after that I had other hobbies and interests keeping me busy.

What got me to start enjoying watching football again was when I was at a friends house and he was watching Barcelona vs Real Madrid,Barcelona won that game but more importantly to me I really enjoyed it and developed an appreciation for the deep rivalry and quality of the two teams and their playing styles.I decided I preferred the Spanish smooth classy way of playing as opposed to the English rough physical crude type game.
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I hear ya but dont get how you get bored of your team winning. Secondly, The rivalries/derbies of the English league are just as deep if not deeper and besides just 2 teams, you have the local derbies (Pool/Everton, Arse/Spurs, City/United) and rivalries like United/Pool which is just enthralling no matter what the two teams are doing.

I think the English game is tougher but dont think the Spanish league is smoother or classier (Barca and Real have the players and can play a fancy game, but the rest of the teams dog it out - just like AM did last year). I could be wrong, but just sharing my 2c
 
To be honest, it's games like the Granada one that again prove how La Liga as a league lags behind the likes of the EPL. People may believe that Real Madrid and Barca would dominate other leagues (and they very well might), but the rest of the league is simply not up to scratch.
 
abzo said:
What should he have done in those instances you mentioned? Started a thread about how sad he felt?
You're sounding like those forumites who expect other forumites to explicitly condemn every terrorist attack to prove that they don't support terrorism.
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Can we just have a thread where Madrid supporters (casual to die hard) share their opinions and not be questioned on their devotion to the club?

Personally I support Man Utd and Real Madrid. I support Utd because that's what my family support and who I grew up supporting. I've only started supporting RM since Ronaldo joined them in 2009, and at the time I would consider myself a casual fan.

Over the past year or so I have probably watched every game Madrid have played (that has been shown on DStv) and now choose to watch Real over Utd when they are playing at the same time. I follow all the news and rumours as well. So I'd say I'm a pretty staunch Madrid fan.

In summary, can we try to keep this thread free from bashing, both team and supporter. There have been RM/Barca threads in the past that have been closed due to bashing, if I recall correctly. So let's try to prevent this from happening here.

#HalaMadrid
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My first question is tongue in cheek question, he wanted clarification and I provided it. Where have I questioned his devotion to the club?
 
Maverick Jester said:
To be honest, it's games like the Granada one that again prove how La Liga as a league lags behind the likes of the EPL. People may believe that Real Madrid and Barca would dominate other leagues (and they very well might), but the rest of the league is simply not up to scratch.
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actually I would disagree to an extent, While Granada played poorly RM's attacking intent was there. They wanted to score as many as possible - look at Sunderland they got thumped 8 - 0 by Southampton but rallied to draw 0 - 0 against Chelsea.

La Liga teams has featured in the CL and Europa league finals way more than EPL teams:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_European_Cup_and_UEFA_Champions_League_finals
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UEFA_Cup_and_Europa_League_finals

EPL has been a 2 horse race for the last couple of years, whiles La Liga has been dominated by 2 teams but the top 4 has been rotating quite often. Yes money does have some say. RM and Barca has been featuring in the finals of the CL and Europa more often than EPL teams and that's against top opposition.

The only difference I see in the EPL is the xmas period - while Seria A, La Liga, Bundesliga all on holiday the EPL teams are killing themselves over the xmas period.
 
falcon786 said:
I used to support Man United when I was younger and then I lost interest in it for about a decade,so wouldn't even call myself a supporter of them.
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Arsenal play a better brand of football. Maybe if you watched them you might find it interesting.
 
Maverick Jester said:
To be honest, it's games like the Granada one that again prove how La Liga as a league lags behind the likes of the EPL. People may believe that Real Madrid and Barca would dominate other leagues (and they very well might), but the rest of the league is simply not up to scratch.
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Yeah no, teams get beaten like that in the Premier League almost every season.
 
fishfly said:
actually I would disagree to an extent, While Granada played poorly RM's attacking intent was there. They wanted to score as many as possible - look at Sunderland they got thumped 8 - 0 by Southampton but rallied to draw 0 - 0 against Chelsea.
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The thing is, the Granada result is more of a norm in La Liga than the Sunderland one is in the EPL- Granada lost 6-0 to Barca, who've put six past two other teams too. Madrid put eight past Deportivo. The Southampton-Sunderland game was a one off, as the next highest was the 3-6 score between Everton and Chelsea.

La Liga teams has featured in the CL and Europa league finals way more than EPL teams:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_European_Cup_and_UEFA_Champions_League_finals
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UEFA_Cup_and_Europa_League_finals
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As of late, yes. But consider that those teams were CL dropouts at the time, meaning they didn't even progress past the group stages to win it. Most EPL teams either drop out of the CL later on, or have had to play the Europa League from the beginning. The lack of a winter break in England really does no one any favours, especially when it comes to fixture congestion. The larger TV money afforded to EPL teams might aid in this, but there's no denying that the lack of a winter break and an extra cup competition is a limiting factor for English teams.

EPL has been a 2 horse race for the last couple of years, whiles La Liga has been dominated by 2 teams but the top 4 has been rotating quite often. Yes money does have some say. RM and Barca has been featuring in the finals of the CL and Europa more often than EPL teams and that's against top opposition.
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La Liga has been contested between two teams for about fifteen years now, and even Atletico's win last season is more the exception than the norm. I dunno when last either Barca or Real have played in the Europa, but Spain has had five representatives in the CL final over the past ten seasons. England has had eight against the same standard of competition.

The only difference I see in the EPL is the xmas period - while Seria A, La Liga, Bundesliga all on holiday the EPL teams are killing themselves over the xmas period.
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Agreed, and something that is hurting EPL teams in Europe at present.
 
Maverick Jester said:
9-1? Who?
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2009 - Tottenham beat Wigan 9-1
2010 - Chelsea beat Stoke 7-0
2010 - Chelsea beat Wigan 8-0
2011 - M.United beat Arsenal 8-2
2012 - Chelsea beat Villa 8-0
2013 - City beat Norwich 7-0
2014 - Southampton beat Sunderland 8-0

Dont fall into the whole PL hype about the most competitive league in the world, its largely nonsense. The only reason we see a more competitive league this season is because all the top teams are different shades of schite. Chelsea are probably going to win it by default despite being largely average themselves the last few months.
 
Unhappy438 said:
2009 - Tottenham beat Wigan 9-1
2010 - Chelsea beat Stoke 7-0
2010 - Chelsea beat Wigan 8-0
2011 - M.United beat Arsenal 8-2
2012 - Chelsea beat Villa 8-0
2013 - City beat Norwich 7-0
2014 - Southampton beat Sunderland 8-0

Dont fall into the whole PL hype about the most competitive league in the world, its largely nonsense. The only reason we see a more competitive league this season is because all the top teams are different shades of schite. Chelsea are probably going to win it by default despite being largely average themselves the last few months.
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Yes, but again, those results are outliers. We don't expect them to happen in the PL, even if they do. But you can pretty much bet that one of Madrid or Barcelona will absolutely demolish a number of teams, or the same would transpire in the Bundesliga with Bayern.

And I didn't say that the PL is the most competitive league, just that it is more competitive than La Liga as a whole.
 
Maverick Jester said:
Yes, but again, those results are outliers. We don't expect them to happen in the PL, even if they do. But you can pretty much bet that one of Madrid or Barcelona will absolutely demolish a number of teams, or the same would transpire in the Bundesliga with Bayern.
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I clearly remember United doing the same to teams home and away just a few seasons ago. Also the Bundesliga probably has the highest standard all round i would say. The top and bottom teams are very good, Dortmund getting to CL second round and sitting in the relegation zone for a while is an example of that.

Maverick Jester said:
And I didn't say that the PL is the most competitive league, just that it is more competitive than La Liga as a whole.
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You implied that the standard of the bottom teams isn't up to scratch and compared it to the PL. Well im saying the standard of the bottom La Liga teams isn't the problem, its the standard of the top PL league teams that is.
 
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Unhappy438 said:
I clearly remember United doing the same to teams home and away just a few seasons ago. Also the Bundesliga probably has the highest standard all round i would say. The top and bottom teams are very good, Dortmund getting to CL second round and sitting in the relegation zone for a while is an example of that.
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A few seasons ago is still a few seasons ago. Currently, it's not the case. The Bundesliga has it right, other than the Bayern monopoly.

You implied that the standard of the bottom teams isn't up to scratch and compared it to the PL. Well im saying the standard of the bottom La Liga teams isn't the problem, its the standard of the top PL league teams that is.
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Not really, the league as a whole. The standard of the top PL teams may well be a problem, but it means they are closer to the middle and bottom teams than the likes of Real and Barca are to their equivalents. So, the PL is more competitive on that basis. The abilities of the middle teams have also improved.
 
Maverick Jester said:
A few seasons ago is still a few seasons ago. Currently, it's not the case. The Bundesliga has it right, other than the Bayern monopoly.
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I comparing it to a few seasons ago because that's when the top teams were performing well. There is no reason to think it wont go back to that when they get it right again.

Maverick Jester said:
Not really, the league as a whole. The standard of the top PL teams may well be a problem, but it means they are closer to the middle and bottom teams than the likes of Real and Barca are to their equivalents. So, the PL is more competitive on that basis.
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Right so then you agree with me and its not the other way around like you initially suggested.

Maverick Jester said:
The abilities of the middle teams have also improved.
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There is literally nothing to suggest that, the same 5 teams are still challenging for the top 4. The only difference is Southampton have replaced Everton. So considering how average the top teams have been i would say this has been a particularly poor season for the likes of Tottenham.

Edit: Anyways this is getting way off topic for a Real Madrid thread :)
 
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Unhappy438 said:
I comparing it to a few seasons ago because that's when the top teams were performing well. There is no reason to think it wont go back to that when they get it right again.
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Hopefully they do.

Right so then you agree with me and its not the other way around like you initially suggested.
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But I didn't suggest it, I just felt that those sorts of results being more commonplace in La Liga means it's less competitive as a whole. The disparity between the top two teams and the rest is uncompetitive. I suppose the example made it seem the other way round, because Granada are in the bottom three.

There is literally nothing to suggest that, the same 5 teams are still challenging for the top 4. The only difference is Southampton have replaced Everton. So considering how average the top teams have been i would say this has been a particularly poor season for the likes of Tottenham.
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What about the likes of Stoke, Swansea, West Ham and Crystal Palace (never mind Southampton)? Middle-tier would be the 8th-12th positions, and these teams have all improved (three of them are set to end the season with their highest points totals in PL history). Everton have regressed, and Spurs have had a poorer season than expected. But the others have improved, there's no doubt around that.

Edit: Anyways this is getting way off topic for a Real Madrid thread :)
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Maybe that's why there wasn't a Real Madrid thread to begin with :p
 
The problem with La Liga is how the TV money is distributed. Real and Barca take half of the money, where in the EPL it's divided equally between all 20 clubs.
 
RexxGrim said:
Basically equal. In 2014 Liverpool got 74mil & Cardiff got 60mil. In the same year Real Madrid got 118mil and Granada got 14mil.

Edit: Atletico got 32mil.
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Surely 74 is not equal to 60 but argues the point of "more equally"
 
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