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Official Tri-Nations 2011 Thread
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killadoob
Honorary Master
Not really a lekka pomping is 65 15 or something, considering our team we did rather well i thought. The interesting thing is the away teams don't often win in the tri nations anyways so even with a full strength team there is every possibility we would have lost both, obviously we would have gone down with more pride and fight but surely we all knew the tri nations was lost before it started?
It's like thinking man united could the champions league with their reserve team, makes no sense to believe that. When i heard all the injuries it become obvious we would be lucky to win a game away or at home.
Will some of our bigger players be back for the home games?
Vox Populi Vox Dei
High Tory
Yes. He is being honest but he is developing a loser mentality. Just as one can create a winning mentality, one can create a loser mentality. And also it seems he's almost 'forgotten' about the home leg of the TN. Of course no-one was expecting us to win the TN, but at least try to win one game. Although on that note, I noticed in 2010, we only won 1 game out of 6...
The QF was won a forward pass. Maybe the NZ rugby administration thought the NZ loss was due to bad refereeing rather than bad coaching.
The Aussie team facing Samoa wasn't exactly full strength - bolded names are the ones in both games
Div has said there is a possibility they might be back in the game.
Do you guys really think that the Bokke are suddenly going to find some magical form just in time for the WC after losing most likely all their TN games? Are there any other warm-up games before the WC?
I'm personally predicting Aussies to win the WC, and NZ to be finalists.
sand_man
Honorary Master
Did you notice in 2009 we won 5/6??
One moment in 80 minutes. A well coached All Black side would have maintained their composure and still won the game.
And the Springbok side facing NZ/OZ isn't exactly full strength either
24 1st choice players are currently in a "rehabilitation" camp outside Rustenberg. TN's results and form is immaterial to the SA's RWC campaign.
Quite likely. You don't need to be an expert in rugby to predict the outcome. There seldom massive surprises and historically there are 8 strong test playing nations but only 5 with a realistic chance of winning the world cup. England, France, SA, NZ and OZ...
killadoob
Honorary Master
Well we have not lost all our games yet, we still have two home games and home advantage is always a big thing in the tri nations.
Yes i do foresee us being WC contenders, go look at who is expected back, we are not talking about 2 or 3 guys we are talking about practically a whole team coming back.
I know it is a hard bullet to swallow at the moment but we are badly under strength and instead of getting angry about it i think we need to accept we do not have the players at the moment to compete. Expect a bad tri nations, we knew it from the get go. All we can hope for is the twenty odd injured players coming back and having a power line up for the world cup. Let's judge pvd on a full strength bok team and not on a second rate b team who has no idea how to play together. I don't think pvd is any good but the world cup will show us whether he is or not.
Yes i do foresee us being WC contenders, go look at who is expected back, we are not talking about 2 or 3 guys we are talking about practically a whole team coming back.
I know it is a hard bullet to swallow at the moment but we are badly under strength and instead of getting angry about it i think we need to accept we do not have the players at the moment to compete. Expect a bad tri nations, we knew it from the get go. All we can hope for is the twenty odd injured players coming back and having a power line up for the world cup. Let's judge pvd on a full strength bok team and not on a second rate b team who has no idea how to play together. I don't think pvd is any good but the world cup will show us whether he is or not.
sand_man
Honorary Master
Let's not forgot 2009 when a lot of Springboks had a few weeks off prior to the kick off of the Lions tour and we all now what happened there... The rest can only do our players good... We have 4 matches against Wales, Namibia, Samoa and Fiji as warm up to the world cup 
Aus and NZ players get away with more because the toe the line, saffa players jump ham-footed over the line if they are not 1meter behind it. A subtle nation we are not
hungrybeaver
Expert Member
Poor showing, not sure whats been going on in training because our defence was simply not there. The rush tactic we're using is not working any more and it is hurting us badly. And at the rucks we are nowhere.. our guys keep running with no one supporting them and where are the fetchers at rucks??! Deysel was the only one doing it at times. We were not contesting at all! I can't believe it took 65mins for a change to come to the loose fwds.. and that was for blood! No one wants to get stuck in. So many times there were forwards in the line and backline players in the rucks!! Again we do the same old crash ball over and over again and get no where.
The most worrying for me is how we allow the opposition to break from inside their half and run all the way into our 22. Would-be tacklers get stepped like they're not even there!
We should not have let so many players [-]go to the secret high-performance training camp[/-] become unavailable. I hate the fact that we can't put up a contest.
The most worrying for me is how we allow the opposition to break from inside their half and run all the way into our 22. Would-be tacklers get stepped like they're not even there!
We should not have let so many players [-]go to the secret high-performance training camp[/-] become unavailable. I hate the fact that we can't put up a contest.
killadoob
Honorary Master
So what do you think we play our guys injured and then have a b team at the world cup?
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hungrybeaver
Expert Member
22 players, who all happen to be 1st choice for the Springboks suddenly become injured. Seems a bit suspicious.
We could've have had our 1st team with a few changes each week instead of a fully fledged B team playing week after week.
We could've have had our 1st team with a few changes each week instead of a fully fledged B team playing week after week.
killadoob
Honorary Master
Then how would our young ones get exposure and experience? I don't think it has been a great idea but none of us know the state of these players who claim they are injured.
hungrybeaver
Expert Member
By having 6 or 7 changes to the starting line up, plus reserves. Having a full team of young guys being thrashed week after week is not good for them either. Yes the young players do need game time but at some point we have to ask if its worthwhile if we cant even compete. I just hope resting our players pays off in the WC.
killadoob
Honorary Master
Not really sure if it is a good or bad thing but i hope we get some players back for home legs. I am not certain resting players before the world cup is a great idea actually. Perhaps this rest has been fine but i would like to see a much much stronger team in two weeks time for the home leg.
hungrybeaver
Expert Member
Oh yea, it would really be good to see a stronger team for our home games!
It is. But I also think that the majority of them are actually injured.
I think PdV will field as many "first choice" players as possible as he does not want the senior players to have their first game back, in the WC.
or at least a couple more senior players guiding the younger talents. I do not mind losing but at the moment it shows badly that our "B side" is lacking in defensive planning and good forwards playing towards the ball...
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sand_man
Honorary Master
Why not?
Our 4 pool games against Wales, Fiji, Samoa and Namibia is all the warm up we need for Ireland in the quarters and NZ in the semi's. I don't see us knocking over NZ in the semis but stranger things have happened... Bear in mind our World cup record against NZ is played 3 won 2....
killadoob
Honorary Master
NZ's record in the world cup is shocking, something gets stuck in their throats so bring on nz in the semi's. We gonna pomp em solid.
Wales is not that bad, catch us on a bad day and you never know, samoa i would not under estimate them. Fiji and namibia should be a walk in the park though but you never want to go into games with that sort of thinking
Wales is not that bad, catch us on a bad day and you never know, samoa i would not under estimate them. Fiji and namibia should be a walk in the park though but you never want to go into games with that sort of thinking
sand_man
Honorary Master
My predictions for World Cup 2011:
Pool A winner NZ
Runner up France
Pool B winner England
Runner up Argentina
Pool C winner Australia
Runner up Ireland
Pool D winner SA
Runner up Samoa/Wales
1st Quarter final Australia vs Samoa/Wales
2nd Quarter final England vs France
3rd Quarter final SA vs Ireland
4th Quarter final NZ vs Argentina
1st Semi Final Australia vs England/France
2nd Semi Final SA vs NZ
Final: SA/NZ vs Australia/Eng/France
Pool A winner NZ
Runner up France
Pool B winner England
Runner up Argentina
Pool C winner Australia
Runner up Ireland
Pool D winner SA
Runner up Samoa/Wales
1st Quarter final Australia vs Samoa/Wales
2nd Quarter final England vs France
3rd Quarter final SA vs Ireland
4th Quarter final NZ vs Argentina
1st Semi Final Australia vs England/France
2nd Semi Final SA vs NZ
Final: SA/NZ vs Australia/Eng/France
sand_man
Honorary Master
Don't under estimate Englands chances at this World Cup!!! They almost always arrive very well prepared...