Official Vox DSL feedback thread

cavedog said:
Yeah good idea. Warp for London and EU and then Warp off for US and South America :) Problem is consoles :unsure:

Why can't they just get EU right :cautious:
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They refuse to use WACS for us North, I don't know if Cape Town Vox users use WACS though. It's literally the only reason I won't use Vox when I get fibre.
 
Soul Assassin said:
They refuse to use WACS for us North, I don't know if Cape Town Vox users use WACS though. It's literally the only reason I won't use Vox when I get fibre.
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I'm asking myself why because they have a router in London at LINX so surely WACS will ALWAYS be better :unsure:
 
cavedog said:
Very disappointing.

They have hardware in Angola IX, London LINX LON1 and 2, New York IX and Brazil.

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"EASSY is the international cable used from JHB.

Again, the latency is normal from JHB for the cable used."

"JHB traffic has always routed via EASSy, unless there is a preferred route via WACS/SAT3."

and this is the latency the engineer at Vox gets directly from their infrastructure:

178.620 ms 181.478 ms 181.217 ms

"As I said, unless there is a preferred subnet being learnt via WACS your traffic will route via EASSy."
 
Soul Assassin said:
"EASSY is the international cable used from JHB.

Again, the latency is normal from JHB for the cable used."

"JHB traffic has always routed via EASSy, unless there is a preferred route via WACS/SAT3."

and this is the latency the engineer at Vox gets directly from their infrastructure:

178.620 ms 181.478 ms 181.217 ms

"As I said, unless there is a preferred subnet being learnt via WACS your traffic will route via EASSy."
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:sick:

So League of Legends EUW suffers really badly because of this because JHB > Via EASSy > LON > Transit provider > France/Germany/Amsterdam and that is why we have 230ms in EU West servers on Vox.
 
Also interesting to note when I did a MTR test on Afrihost and Vox on the same router and same line Afrihost has lower latency to Cloudflare than Vox.

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cavedog said:
Depends on Game I guess. Like COD MW EU servers are hosted on Amazon London and Dublin. The above trace was to a London COD MW server. Done just now.
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Apex is the only game I play with non local servers and they have an AWS London server location.
 
Soul Assassin said:
Apex is the only game I play with non local servers and they have an AWS London server location.
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Yeah so those as well. Vox direct peer with them at NAP Africa and then Amazon does the transit hence the low latency. If Vox switches off the direct connect at NAP then latency will obviously shoot up to 180ms via EASSy
 
cavedog said:
Yeah so those as well. Vox direct peer with them at NAP Africa and then Amazon does the transit hence the low latency. If Vox switches off the direct connect at NAP then latency will obviously shoot up to 180ms via EASSy
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So are you saying it's fixed now or do I need to do anything or is it best to just still use Warp.
 
Soul Assassin said:
So are you saying it's fixed now or do I need to do anything or is it best to just still use Warp.
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I'm saying that Amazon EU West servers will be pretty low now because they are direct connect with Amazon at NAP JHB. If something changes and they don't peer anymore latency will change. For games that does not use Amazon for example like League of Legends, Paladins ,Battle.net games like WoW will likely still be very high latency because it goes via their own transit to EU and we know they use EASSy for that.
 
cavedog said:
I'm saying that Amazon EU West servers will be pretty low now because they are direct connect with Amazon at NAP JHB. If something changes and they don't peer anymore latency will change. For games that does not use Amazon for example like League of Legends, Paladins ,Battle.net games like WoW will likely still be very high latency because it goes via their own transit to EU and we know they use EASSy for that.
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When did this change happen?
 
Soul Assassin said:
When did this change happen?
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Not sure hey just saw it showed MW and Fortnite I think it was having 160ms to EU and I was like okay that is not right. They have had the direct connect on in the past though. Saves them international bandwidth just like cloudflare warp. Traffic gets handed over at peering in JHB and Cloudflare or in this case Amazon is responsible for the routing and transit after that.

Cool Ideas and Afrihost also direct connect with Amazon I believe. ISPs will be stupid not too because then they would need to transit it to EU. $$$$
 
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