Ongoing Palestinian terror attacks against Israel.

TheJman said:
Please indicate where this was shown, in addition are you by implication indicating that majority of Israeli's don't want peace? Do you believe hamas wants peace?
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The other thread that is now locked. I'm too lazy to go look for it now, so you can help yourself.

And no, I think the majority of Israelis want peace. The vast majority, the sane people stuck in a ****ty situation, want the ****ty situation to end and want to be able to live in peace and quiet without having to fear their neighbours. That's ultimately what we all want, isn't it?

Recognised terrorist organisations who call for the death of Jews... yet when you look at the propaganda spread by hamas, hizbollah etc etc, they don't specifically state to attack, stab, murder the IDF soldiers, they in fact call for the attack, murder, stabbing of Jews .. can you at least acknowledge the difference?
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Of course. But in practise while some people call for the killing of Jews, the attempts to attack stab and murder IDF soldiers still forms part of a legitimate resistance sincerely thus resisting.

It does no good to deny the very real motivations of either side that traps them in the conflict. If you want to solve the conflict you have to be honest about what each side truly feels.
 
Xarog said:
The other thread that is now locked. I'm too lazy to go look for it now, so you can help yourself.

And no, I think the majority of Israelis want peace. The vast majority, the sane people stuck in a ****ty situation, want the ****ty situation to end and want to be able to live in peace and quiet without having to fear their neighbours. That's ultimately what we all want, isn't it?
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And that's the crux of your argument? That the minority who don't want peace are in power?

In respect of the "vast majority", I agree with you, and I believe that hamas and other factions are terrorising not only Israelis, but Palestinians a like, and that the vast majority do not support the attacks on Jews.

Of course. But in practise while some people call for the killing of Jews, the attempts to attack stab and murder IDF soldiers still forms part of a legitimate resistance sincerely thus resisting.
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The attacks on the IDF soldiers are as a result of the IDF stepping in to protect the innocent Israeli civilians that were being stabbed and murdered, if you choose to see both sides and you watch the videos of muslim clerks, they do not call for the attack on the IDF, they call for the murder of Israelis, one cannot hide behind the fact that the attacks are on soldiers to make the other attacks justified - they are a fact of the circumstances
 
TheJman said:
And that's the crux of your argument? That the minority who don't want peace are in power?
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The majority can't argue for peace while the enemy is at the doorstep and the nationalists of both sides are screaming blue murder and denouncing voices of reason as traitors to the cause. Both sides are guilty of this. Both sides are trapped in a cycle of violence that is without purpose.

The attacks on the IDF soldiers are as a result of the IDF stepping in to protect the innocent Israeli civilians that were being stabbed and murdered, if you choose to see both sides and you watch the videos of muslim clerks, they do not call for the attack on the IDF, they call for the murder of Israelis, one cannot hide behind the fact that the attacks are on soldiers to make the other attacks justified - they are a fact of the circumstances
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Your view of it. Not the Palestinians. You cannot accept that your perspective is not the only perspective. You continue to assume that because people behave differently to what you think reasonable people must do, that they actually intend to be unreasonable for the reasons you thumb sucked due to your fear of the threat they represent to you. You're simply giving life to your fears and arguing as if they're real and assuming anyone who disagrees must be a sympathiser with the Enemy. It took you something like 2 posts of mine before you started accusing me of being thus, and you simply never stopped to consider the possibility that you were mistaken ever since.
 
4 Israelis wounded, 1 critically in continued Palestinian violence

Four soldiers wounded in car-ramming terrorist attack in West Bank

http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-C...errorist-attack-in-West-bank-5-wounded-428672



A suspected vehicular attack that injured four IDF soldiers took place in the southern West Bank on Wednesday evening near Beit Omar and the Gush Etzion bloc of settlements.

Magen David Adom reported that it treated the victims who were in their twenties at the scene of the attack and who were then evacuated to hospital in Jerusalem.

IDF forces in the area shot the suspected terrorist who was in serious condition.

The car with Israeli passengers came under attack by rock throwers who exited their vehicle and were then hit by a passing vehicle.

There was rioting and rock throwing reported at the site of the attack.
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Palestinian stabbers in Beit Shemesh tried to board school bus, police say

Palestinian stabbers in Beit Shemesh tried to board school bus, police say
http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-C...h-tried-to-board-school-bus-police-say-428716


The two Palestinian assailants armed with knives who stabbed an ultra-Orthodox Jewish man in Beit Shemesh initially tried to board a bus filled with schoolchildren, police said on Thursday.

A police spokesperson said that authorities received reports of two suspicious individuals who tried to board a transport carrying a group of school kids in the predominantly ultra-Orthodox town.

When a passerby yelled toward the two men asking why they were trying to get on the school bus, they quickly got off, according to police.

Shortly after receiving a description of the two men from concerned citizens, police and Border Police units found the suspects near a bus station on Yehezkel Hanavi Street.

Officers saw the two men while they were stabbing a Jewish passerby at the bus station. The police engaged the assailants, shooting them and wounding them.

The two assailants were rushed to hospital in serious condition. A subsequent search revealed that the two men were wearing undershirts bearing the insignia of the Iz a-Din al-Kassam Brigades, the military wing of the Palestinian Islamist group Hamas.

Police praised the actions of the officers who shot the assailants, saying that "the harming of more innocents was prevented."
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Xarog said:
The other thread that is now locked. I'm too lazy to go look for it now, so you can help yourself.

And no, I think the majority of Israelis want peace. The vast majority, the sane people stuck in a ****ty situation, want the ****ty situation to end and want to be able to live in peace and quiet without having to fear their neighbours. That's ultimately what we all want, isn't it?


Of course. But in practise while some people call for the killing of Jews, the attempts to attack stab and murder IDF soldiers still forms part of a legitimate resistance sincerely thus resisting.

It does no good to deny the very real motivations of either side that traps them in the conflict. If you want to solve the conflict you have to be honest about what each side truly feels.
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Very feeble and dishonest attempt to confuse the matter. They are not attacking IDf soldiers , the cowards attack any jew or jewish kid or Israeli for that matter. Therein lies the difference.
 
http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/Suspected-terror-stabbing-in-Gush-Etzion-429879

An IDF soldier was stabbed and lightly wounded by a Palestinian attacker during operational activity near the Gush Etzion security fence, the IDF said.

The attack took place near the community of Aderet, on the road between Gush Etzion and Beit Shemesh.

Soldiers opened fire on the knife attacker, striking and wounding him in the lower half of his body. The terrorist was lightly wounded and taken to Hadassah University Medical Center in Jerusalem's Ein Kerem.

Magen David Adom paramedics provided medical treatment and evacuated the soldier to the Shaare Zedek Medical Center in Jerusalem.

It was reported that the terrorist is a resident of Surif in the Hebron region and was a neighbor of the two terrorists who carried out the Thursday attack in Beit Shemesh.
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Very feeble and dishonest attempt to confuse the matter. They are not attacking IDf soldiers , the cowards attack any jew or jewish kid or Israeli for that matter. Therein lies the difference.
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There was no attempt to confuse the matter, you're reading something that doesn't exist. I was using the terminology Jman was using to respond to his point, no more, no less.
 
OrbitalDawn said:
Dimona teen who stabbed Arabs to be charged with aggravated battery, not attempted murder

Funny how the Jewish terrorist that stabs 4 Arabs gets charged with battery, but the Arab ones get offed immediately. No trial necessary.
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Depends on the circumstance. The Israeli was caught after the incident, if it was during, who knows what the outcome would have been. If you run at police or soldiers with a knife in your hand, the end result is usually that you will get shot.

But a couple of minutes ago this would be terrorist was arrested, no shooting involved as he was caught beforehand:

http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-C...-after-residents-report-suspicious-man-429886
Police thwarted a terror attack in Jerusalem's Nof Zion neighborhood after receiving reports of a suspicious man eyeing Jewish houses in the area, Police reported Friday.

Border Police Officers arrived to the scene and started questioning the man, a 21-year-old resident of the city's Jebl Mukaber neighborhood and noticed that his right hand was hidden behind a fence.

They maintained their distance as the suspect showed the officers his right arm. His hand was in a fist, as if he was holding something.

Police asked the suspect to open his hand in order to see if he was holding a weapon, but he refused and requested for the officers to allow him to return to his home neighborhood.

Finally, one of the officers managed to apprehend the suspect, grabbed his arm and found a knife hidden in the suspect's sleeve.

The suspect was arrested and will undergo a police investigation
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Gaza university dean of Koran studies approves killing Jewish women and children.

http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Ev...stine-is-a-combatant-even-the-children-429850

In a recent appearance on Hamas’s Al-Aksa TV, a Gaza university official justified killing Jewish women and children.

According to the video posted by MEMRI (the Middle East Media Research Institute), Dr. Subhi Al-Yaziji, Dean of Quranic Studies at the Islamic University of Gaza said: "All Jews in Palestine today are fair game - even the women."

Asked by the interviewer if this is because of the occupation, Yaziji replied in the affirmative.

“Every single Jew in Palestine is a combatant, even the children,” he said adding, “They train their children to use tanks and various kinds of weapons.”

“They breastfeed them on hatred for the Palestinian people.”

The attacks "should be carried out in the very heart of the enemy - in Haifa, Jaffa, Tel Aviv, and Hadera as was the case in the past because that is what hurts the Jews," he said according to MEMRI.
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lived666 said:
Depends on the circumstance. The Israeli was caught after the incident, if it was during, who knows what the outcome would have been. If you run at police or soldiers with a knife in your hand, the end result is usually that you will get shot.

But a couple of minutes ago this would be terrorist was arrested, no shooting involved as he was caught beforehand:

http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-C...-after-residents-report-suspicious-man-429886
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Why isn't he being charged with attempted murder, though?

Not to mention them knowing who burnt that Palestinian family to death and not even arresting them. Never mind actually prosecuting them. But then we know the arrests are mostly a sham, anyway.

And looking at the amount of Palestinians who get shot even though they don't pose a direct threat, it strikes me as more than mere coincidence. Those videos that popped up all over the place confirm that.

Even that looney that stabbed people at the gay pride parade was apprehended, not just offed. And he was busy stabbing people.
 
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Israeli Family of five currently suffering from various degrees of burns

Family with children injured in firebomb attack

Family of five currently suffering from various degrees of burns, with the youngest victim: a 4-year-old girl, reportedly in moderate condition. Earlier in the day Palestinians faced off against security forces in the West Bank and Gaza.

Five Israelis were injured after a firebomb was thrown at their car near Beit El late on Friday afternoon, amid a day of clashes between Palestinians and security forces

Reports indicated that one of the victims, a four-year-old girl was moderately wounded. The four other victims were lightly wounded as a result of their burns

The attack took place on route 60 in the West Bank near Beit El, and all five were evacuated to Haddasah Ein Karem hospital for further treatment. According to MDA reports, the youngest victim, the 4-year-old girl, was suffering from burns to her upper body, while the other 4 victims: The girl's father, mother, brother and sister, had sustained burns on their extremities
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lived666 said:
Family with children injured in firebomb attack
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The questions that palestinian supporters won't answer:

Is a palestinian fire bomb attack, such as this one, on a family in a car with young children legitimate resistance or a terror attack?
Is there a difference between legitimate Hamas resistance and terror or are they basically one and the same?
Do you agree with what was said on hamas tv, that every Jew including woman and children are legitimate targets?
 
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