Ongoing Palestinian terror attacks against Israel.

Fudzy said:
Story is a month old.
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Ok! How does that change the significance?

Fine now?
http://on.wsj.com/1XsqU0f

By JEROLD S. AUERBACH
Oct. 25, 2015 4:49 p.m. ET
230 COMMENTS
A 10-year-old Russian boy, Matvei Tcepliaev, recently made an extraordinary discovery in Jerusalem. Working as a volunteer in the Temple Mount Sifting Project, he found a 3,000-year-old seal—engraved limestone about the size of a thimble, with a hole at one end so it could be hung from a string—from the time of King David.

The artifact was nestled in the hundreds of tons of earth and rock that had been illegally excavated from below the Temple Mount in the late 1990s by the Muslim Waqf, a trust that retains authority over the contested site. The Temple Mount is sacred ground for Jews, Muslims and Christians, but Jewish historical claims are denied by many Muslims.

The sifting project in Emek Tzurim National Park in Jerusalem, started in 2005 and has uncovered several historically significant objects, but the seal may be the most important. Dating from the era of King David’s conquest of Jerusalem and the building of the Jewish First Temple by his son and successor, Solomon, the seal confirms the ancient Jewish presence in Jerusalem—more than a millennium before the Muslim Dome of the Rock was built above the ruins of the ancient temples.

If it is ironic that the Muslim excavation, undertaken to build an underground mosque, ultimately confirmed Jews’ historical claims, it is no less ironic than the fact that the Waqf came to rule the site at Israel’s instigation.

Following Israel’s extraordinary victory over its Arab foes in the Six-Day War in June 1967, which included capturing the entire city of Jerusalem, Israeli Col. Motta Gur proclaimed: “The Temple Mount is in our hands.” Joyous Israeli soldiers gathered at the Western Wall below and sang Hatikva, the national anthem. Shlomo Goren, a brigadier general and future chief rabbi of Israel, exultantly blew his shofar.

But Defense Minister Moshe Dayan had other ideas about Jewish sovereignty on the Temple Mount. A secular Israeli, he relied on a rabbinical consensus that Jews were forbidden to set foot on the Mount lest they risk desecrating the unknown site of the Holy of Holies, the inner sanctuary of the Jewish temple that housed the Ark of the Covenant.

After declaring that “we have reunited the city, the capital of Israel, never to part it again,” Dayan met with Muslim leaders inside the Dome of the Rock. An agreement was reached: The Waqf ban on Jews visiting the Temple Mount would be ended—even if many preferred to continue to observe the rabbinical prohibition—but Jews wouldn’t be allowed to pray there.

Shakespeare, not the Bible or Quran, proclaimed: “What’s past is prologue.” Dayan’s concession prepared the way for conflict on the Temple Mount that continues today. The Palestinians’ Second Intifada erupted in September 2000 after Likud leader Ariel Sharon visited the Temple Mount—not to pray but to assert the legitimacy of a Jewish presence at the most ancient Jewish holy site. He was widely castigated for asserting a historical truth.

A similarly tragic scenario is now unfolding in Jerusalem, and throughout Israel, as Palestinians attack Jews with bullets, knives and rocks. Although Secretary of State John Kerry absurdly attributed the bloody rampage to Palestinians’ frustration with Israeli settlement-building, informed observers note that the outbreak of violence has been stoked by false rumors that Israel is on the verge of rewriting the Temple Mount rules, including allowing Jews to pray there.

This may or may not be a prelude to a third intifada. What is clear is that for years the Muslim Waqf has continued to oversee excavations below the surface of the Temple Mount, with callous disregard for what archaeologists could learn about the Mount’s Jewish history in antiquity.

That policy is of a piece with Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas’s dismissal of any Jewish connection to the Temple Mount. “Al-Aksa is ours and so is the Church of the Holy Sepulchre. They have no right to desecrate them with their filthy feet,” Mr. Abbas told activists at an Oct. 14 meeting in his Ramallah office, the Jerusalem Post reported.

Not that Jews ever doubted their religious roots at Temple Mount, but now they have a 10-year-old boy to thank for providing them with a three-millennia-old artifact that refutes modern propaganda designed to rewrite history. Just as the seal was used long ago as evidence of authority, so today it puts a stamp of approval on Jewish claims to their history at the holiest site in Jerusalem.

Mr. Auerbach is a professor emeritus of history at Wellesley College in Wellesley, Mass.
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marine1 said:
So? Is that your best attempt
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How does the finding of this one coin have any relevance in this thread? A couple of years ago they found Roman coins in the wailing wall of Hebron, would that make it anymore relevant? No.
 
Fudzy said:
How does the finding of this one coin have any relevance in this thread? A couple of years ago they found Roman coins in the wailing wall of Hebron, would that make it anymore relevant? No.
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Ok so now it's the coin not the age of the article.
Sorry I'm trying to keep up with you.

It's proof the land originally belonged to the Jews so everyone else can actually go jump in a lake.
It's very relevant unless it doesn't suit your agenda
 
LazyLion said:
... They would be wrong, because the land never belonged to them either.
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Unless you count conquering people, which is how the Jews got the land in the first place according to the Talmud.
 
marine1 said:
Ok so now it's the coin not the age of the article.
Sorry I'm trying to keep up with you.

It's proof the land originally belonged to the Jews so everyone else can actually go jump in a lake.
It's very relevant unless it doesn't suit your agenda
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One coin is not proof... The article came up in September and has been churnalised to attempt to make it relevant to the current situation.
 
marine1 said:
Ok so now it's the coin not the age of the article.
Sorry I'm trying to keep up with you.

It's proof the land originally belonged to the Jews so everyone else can actually go jump in a lake.
It's very relevant unless it doesn't suit your agenda
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LazyLion said:
... They would be wrong, because the land never belonged to them either.
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Forgetting about the Canaanites & Jebusites...?
 
LazyLion said:
There were never any Canaanites & Jebusites in Southern Africa. Khoisan maybe.
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The point being that the Israelites chased them off their land and called it their own, which is how they were able to create a kingdom with Jerusalem as its capital in the first place.

So either conquest is a valid way of acquiring land, or it isn't. If it isn't, then the Jews have no valid historical claim to land which they stole from others. If it is, well, might makes right, doesn't it?
 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...ct-palestinian-state_562e5f1be4b0c66bae58b878

Benjamin Netanyahu's Latest Rejection Of A Palestinian State

WASHINGTON -- Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu reaffirmed on Monday that he does not envision a two-state solution for Israel and the occupied Palestinian territories any time soon.

During a parliamentary committee meeting, Netanyahu told members of the Knesset that he has no current plans to surrender control of the occupied West Bank to the Palestinians as part of a peace agreement. “At this time, we need to control all of the territory for the foreseeable future,” he told lawmakers, reported Haaretz.

Netanyahu accused members of the opposition government, who have lobbied for renewed two-state solution negotiations, of indulging in an unrealistic fantasy.

"You think there is a magic wand here, but I disagree,” he told them. “I'm asked if we will forever live by the sword - yes."
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There you have it, but those who live by the sword tend to die by the sword.
 
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