OpenWeb ADSL Feedback Thread (Pt2)

Morning OpenWebbers,

As per my post yesterday, we expected the network to be busy today, therefore shaping will be applied.

Shaping is automatically applied based on how busy the network is at any given time, it is not based on times or specific days.

Looking around the forum, it seems like many other ISP's are also shaping today.
 
Morning OpenWebbers,

As per my post yesterday, we expected the network to be busy today, therefore shaping will be applied.

Shaping is automatically applied based on how busy the network is at any given time, it is not based on times or specific days.

Looking around the forum, it seems like many other ISP's are also shaping today.

WHYYYYY ??? It's a public holiday !!! How can u EXPECT the network to be busy ? Do you check what is cming down the pipes ?

Ridiculous man ! So sick of this rubbish !

Why dont you just say it like it is : You have capacity issues, and/or you are oversubscribed.

I remember when I joined you guys it was a pleasure...now the whole experience has turned sour. Not impressed at all with OW, and that is really disappointing.
 
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Since I am a qualified CCIE please allow me access to your core so i can determine if you are full of **** or if you need more bandwidth or you need me to help you out, i will do it for free even.................
 
We have not denied shaping.

Shaping is a reality when the network is busy unfortunately. We however do not see shaping as a problem, but as part of a shaped product.

We try and provide as much unshaped access as possible over any period of time (as is the case of this unshaped weekend), however, if the network is busy, shaping will be applied.

Eg, we forecast things to start heating up again tomorrow during the course of the day, therefore shaping may be applied.

From Friday evening though, the network has been quiet, and the system opened the floodgates.

WOW this infuriates me!

Come on cableguy, you're not a fool, so please don't act stupid. This type of response is nothing short of insulting!

Now go back and read all the complaints...

Ok, let me break it down for you..

Shaping is a reality when the network is busy unfortunately. We however do not see shaping as a problem, but as part of a shaped product.

Fine. Yes. We get it. It's a shaped product and therefore it's shaped. Nobody is complaining about this.. Now please, note the bold.

We try and provide as much unshaped access as possible over any period of time (as is the case of this unshaped weekend), however, if the network is busy, shaping will be applied.

Again, please note the bold.

Eg, we forecast things to start heating up again tomorrow during the course of the day, therefore shaping may be applied.

From Friday evening though, the network has been quiet, and the system opened the floodgates.

LOL, you're forecasting it to heat up on a public holiday? Are you really making a prediction? I don't think so. Seems like a nice way of letting everyone know that shaping will apply as per normal.

So let me get this straight... On Friday, even though it was a public holiday, the network was just as busy as any other weekday? I assume this was the case as shaping was no different to any other weekday!

And then from Friday evening and throughout the weekend, the network experienced very little pressure (just like every other weekend) and as a result, the system was unshaped? Am I correct so far?..

Come Monday morning (still a public holiday), and all of a sudden the network becomes unbearably busy again. No different to any other weekday.

Morning OpenWebbers,

As per my post yesterday, we expected the network to be busy today, therefore shaping will be applied.

Shaping is automatically applied based on how busy the network is at any given time, it is not based on times or specific days.

Looking around the forum, it seems like many other ISP's are also shaping today.

Please explain how it is possible that, if your shaping is based solely on traffic, the shaping occurs at precisely the same time EVERY SINGLE WEEKDAY!

It's not even roughly the same time, it's EXACTLY the same time! 11pm and the shaping vanishes! You can't honestly expect us to believe that the network experiences the exact same load every weekday. You can't honestly expect us to believe that public holidays have the exact same load as a weekday. You can't honestly expect us to believe that the traffic eases at the same time every single weekday.

If this reply seems rude, then good. Because your response to the problem is nothing short of insulting. Stop treating your customers like they're too stupid to see what's going on. Stop lying to us. Stop pretending that you don't understand what we're talking about. Stop denying what is so blatantly obvious!

Tomorrow morning I will be cancelling my openweb account.
 
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If I were to hazard a guess, it would be that lots of traffic is being taken up by the latest game of thrones linux distro. A peak at the 720p linux distro relieved over 4 thousand South African IP addresses.... so.... yeah. Thats the less popular 720p linux distro, and not the far more popular SD linux distro.

Sidenote: Why the flip dont South Africans use a proper proxy?
 
Morning OpenWebbers,

As per my post yesterday, we expected the network to be busy today, therefore shaping will be applied.

Shaping is automatically applied based on how busy the network is at any given time, it is not based on times or specific days.

Looking around the forum, it seems like many other ISP's are also shaping today.

I used my WA and Plugg accounts just now and I am not experiencing any shaping so far, even though I know that my star rating will take a slight hammer for downloading during the day, so to me it is not capacity on IS' network.

Can we assume that the IPC you buy and control as MrBeep pointed out so many times reached it's capacity else how do you explain being shaped to death from 08:00 - 17:00 every weekday ??

Michael
 
I used my WA and Plugg accounts just now and I am not experiencing any shaping so far, even though I know that my star rating will take a slight hammer for downloading during the day, so to me it is not capacity on IS' network.

Can we assume that the IPC you buy and control as MrBeep pointed out so many times reached it's capacity else how do you explain being shaped to death from 08:00 - 17:00 every weekday ??

Michael

Correction, from 08:00 - 23:01, and that is the norm these days...
 
Can't wait for the excuse that speeds suck today because everyone on their network is downloading the new linux version of Game of Thrones...

If their network can't handle a spike in traffic due to a 55-minute TV series being released, then their network is ill. Terminal, even.

Network lacks capacity, hence the deteriorating service. Care to comment, MrBEEP or cableguy? Seeing as how it has been alleged over 10 times in the last 2 pages of threads?

Doesn't this graph say something? The overall ADSL network is NOT busy. It is exactly the same as it was yesterday and on Saturday. Surely this points to something seriously wrong with the ISP?

http://imgur.com/6D6XMbz
 
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Openweb support no longer responding to tickets..........i find out for the past few months they downgraded my account from gold to standard................wow, epic OW support...........pretty sure the gold account will suck just as much as the standard. This is what i get for being an OW account holder for years now i guess.
 
Openweb support no longer responding to tickets..........i find out for the past few months they downgraded my account from gold to standard................wow, epic OW support...........pretty sure the gold account will suck just as much as the standard. This is what i get for being an OW account holder for years now i guess.

^ Elaborate on this?
 
Openweb support no longer responding to tickets..........i find out for the past few months they downgraded my account from gold to standard................wow, epic OW support...........pretty sure the gold account will suck just as much as the standard. This is what i get for being an OW account holder for years now i guess.

How did you find that out?
 
Can't wait for the excuse that speeds suck today because everyone on their network is downloading the new linux version of Game of Thrones...

If their network can't handle a spike in traffic due to a 55-minute TV series being released, then their network is ill. Terminal, even.

Network lacks capacity, hence the deteriorating service. Care to comment, MrBEEP or cableguy? Seeing as how it has been alleged over 10 times in the last 2 pages of threads?

Doesn't this graph say something? The overall ADSL network is NOT busy. It is exactly the same as it was yesterday and on Saturday. Surely this points to something seriously wrong with the ISP?

http://imgur.com/6D6XMbz

That is the usage of all ports that JINX controls, including business and dedicated lines. OpenWeb has it's own capacity pool that's made up of home users, businesses etc. While the GENERAL trend is lower, you can't assume OpenWeb's own capacity isn't being strained.


I'm extremely happy right now as my line has been at 100% util downloading my steam library for the past 72 hours.
 
While the GENERAL trend is lower, you can't assume OpenWeb's own capacity isn't being strained

Fair enough, and point taken.

IMO (just an opinion!) OW should still be able to tell us, the subscribers, that their network is operating at x capacity at this moment in time? If we requested? I don't know if we are privy to this information though...

If their network truly is maxed to capacity to the point where - on a public holiday after a long weekend when many many South Africans are returning home from holidays and not sitting on their PC - they have to implement their regular daytime shaping, then surely this speaks to problems with their network?

40% on SFTP downloads, 15% on HTTP downloads, 25% on browsing on a 10mbps shaped line on Easter Monday is excessive, no two ways about it. Were it Tuesday 22nd, I wouldn't be moaning, it would be totally understandable.
 
Network was nice this morning... now its shaped to hell and gone. On a public holiday.
Geez what a productive country, people are at work (sarcastic face)

This reminds me of what the internet was like in 2002...
At this rate i am forced to reconnect the DSTV because its too slow for video streaming.
 
I'll agree on wanting to know about the current load on the network so when my account gets shaped to hell I know that it's shaping and not Telkom fscking with something again.

It's Monday and Game of Thrones, the #1 most pirated show ever drops and everyone and their grandparents are trying to get the new release you will see a tonne of contention. This is just how DSL works here in ZA and the most expensive part about it is Telkom's infrastructure (or lack of rather) that makes up a large percentage of the cost you pay for Internet. Unless Telkom drops prices by a large margin ISPs will have to either charge enormous sums of money for Internet or have a tonne of people sharing one pipe and spilling the cost.
 
I'll agree on wanting to know about the current load on the network so when my account gets shaped to hell I know that it's shaping and not Telkom fscking with something again.

It's Monday and Game of Thrones, the #1 most pirated show ever drops and everyone and their grandparents are trying to get the new release you will see a tonne of contention. This is just how DSL works here in ZA and the most expensive part about it is Telkom's infrastructure (or lack of rather) that makes up a large percentage of the cost you pay for Internet. Unless Telkom drops prices by a large margin ISPs will have to either charge enormous sums of money for Internet or have a tonne of people sharing one pipe and spilling the cost.

+1 Give us some answers already... Stop beating around the bush. You're only making it worse for your company, more and more people are cancelling by the day. You better fix your **** or OpenWeb will stop to make any money whatsoever and all because you refuse to give us any answers. Keep going OpenWeb you're walking the same path as Mweb. They had this good reputation they built up and over night they ****ed it all up. So keep going, you're doing fine in following their footsteps.
 
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Both tests came from my afrihost account on international. Please do tell us how its Telkom and not your ****ed up shaping again. Tried running speedtest with my OpenWeb account and GUESS WHAT????????? The ****ing download doesn't even start.... PLEASE FIX YOUR **** ALREADY, WERE SICK OF IT.

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Yeah its not openweb who has problems right? Its telkom... RIGHT CABLEGUY TELL US YOUR NEXT BULL**** STORY IM WAITING. You are so incompetent in your job you ought to be fired. Then when people at openweb start asking questions about why ppl are leaving openweb its because you cant do your ****ing job.
 
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Im done with openweb.
I cant stream videos, I cant download anything and I can hardly game online.

In search of alternatives, because it is so erratic at the moment, that I just cant put up with it.

My shaping seems to have gotten worse since upgrading to 4Megs...
 
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