OS X Overrated

[semiautomatix]

Having used linux as my primary desktop for 4 years prior to moving permanently to OS X I can safely say that they were not in the same league.

I recently got a test machine up and running with the latest ubuntu and sadly they're still not in the same league.

Linux is a fantastic server OS but on the desktop as a primary machine it is not ready and I have doubts it ever will be.



The windows concept of maximize was not adopted by Apple. If you feel you cannot live without it there are applications that will add it.

If it is such a critical feature for you it is probably best you change back to another OS.

Well said, an attitude I would expect. However it is moot. The Mac is packed and is being returned next week. No thank you.

 

[semiautomatix]

Why shouldnt they? Comfort and ergonomics means a lot and Apple has supported third party mouses since forever. The mighty mouse however does offer left and right click functionality.

What I am trying to state is on the "older" Mac there is a mouse with a single button. Microsoft seems to be the better choice when it comes to a mouse mind, you - just a bit of irony.

 

[StbA]

Windows - for ppl who want to run anti virus software and have general usability
Linux - for ppl who want to get stuff done but they first have to customize their kernel/distro
Mac - for ppl who want to get stuff done without having to customize their kernel/distro

 

[Shardie]

BOTTOM LINE HERE IS. If you dont like OSX move on. BYE

 

[assagai]

Love osx - spotlight alone makes it worthwhile. However the mighty mouse is a really poor piece of hardware.
Bought 2 mac pros this year and both of the mighty 'mice' broke within a few month.
I know a few people who've had the same problem.

 

[semiautomatix]

BOTTOM LINE HERE IS. If you dont like OSX move on. BYE

Oh dude! That is such a Mac owners response! I so need to forward this to my friends, they'll get a laugh out of it!

EDIT: if you can't take the time to even try to defend or explain your OS choice don't expect people to flock to it. That attitude is why Windows will always trump OS X, unfortunately.

 

[StbA]

If the mouse "breaks" take a piece of lint free cloth and rub the ball across it rapidly.

 

[Grimspoon]

ok so their mice aren't great, buy a MS one.

OS X however rocks

 

[Sputnik]

That's because you're essentially running a server OS not a consumer OS. Please explain to me how one can't use an iPod, camera or digicam on Linux? Am I missing something.

No, RHEL comes in many flavours. Yes, you are missing something, I at no point stated that you connot use your ipod etc on Linux. I for one am not interested in using Linux nor prepared to justify OSX.
If it's not for you then move along.

 

[Grimspoon]

yeah if you don't like it, don't use it. I don't like Linux, hence I don't use it. Pretty simple I think.

 

[Moklet Kcuf]

And why for the love of all things green and shiny can no one, and I mean no one, tell me how to maximize a damned application?!

The WindowsOS Maximise function does not exist on OSX. It's just different. OSX is still far more efficient when it comes to general window functions like navigating, selecting, organising etc.

As for your new unit crashing, if it's persistent after you've OK'd your RAM, go back to your supplier and DEMAND a swop. They (core etc) will say they'll take a look at it and you probably have to wait a few days or weeks. Don't have any of it, spit some venom and demand a replacement. A small percentage of any tech gear is always somewhat faulty. You have the right to a fully functional product from the onset.

As for running tonnes of Apps simultaneously. Its always going to test fate, no matter what kind of beast you have.
Its a no brainer rule, the only Apps you have open should be the ones you're using at the time.

 

[semiautomatix]

No, RHEL comes in many flavours. Yes, you are missing something, I at no point stated that you connot use your ipod etc on Linux. I for one am not interested in using Linux nor prepared to justify OSX.
If it's not for you then move along.

RedHat is more like a version of server. Sure, I ran a PC with it back in the day, but its not quite the right fit.

If you don't intend to justify OSX then you've found yourself in the wrong thread I'm afraid.

The attitude in this thread is quite disturbing, yet not unexpected, mind you. Something I've always suspected.

 

[assagai]

Yeah I prefer 3rd party mice, mighty mouse is too unreliable.
OSX does indeed rock, I was a staunch xp user for many years and I'm really glad I switched to mac.
The real problem with using apple is having to deal with core ;-)

 

[StbA]

The attitude in this thread is quite disturbing, yet not unexpected, mind you. Something I've always suspected.

And there is the crux, you came to troll, not to have a discussion.

 

[semiautomatix]

The WindowsOS Maximise function does not exist on OSX. It's just different. OSX is still far more efficient when it comes to general window functions like navigating, selecting, organising etc.

As for your new unit crashing, if it's persistent after you've OK'd your RAM, go back to your supplier and DEMAND a swop. They (core etc) will say they'll take a look at it and you probably have to wait a few days or weeks. Don't have any of it, spit some venom and demand a replacement. A small percentage of any tech gear is always somewhat faulty. You have the right to a fully functional product from the onset.

As for running tonnes of Apps simultaneously. Its always going to test fate, no matter what kind of beast you have.
Its a no brainer rule, the only Apps you have open should be the ones you're using at the time.

Thank you for a slightly more insightful response as opposed to "if you don't like it don't use it". Unfortunately for me it is a company issued Mac and I have no time nor authority to have it swapped or repaired. I have slogged through it and have completed my assignment, so I am almost at the end and will return the "loaner".

I just get so frustrated with the lack of maximisation and I have a very difficult time keeping track of my windows, especially when I'm trying to view several different folders in the file manager at one time. I keep "losing" windows. The fact that several smaller convenient functions I take for granted in Windows or Linux don't exist in Mac OS X only fuels my frustration.

 

[Sputnik]

RedHat is more like a version of server. Sure, I ran a PC with it back in the day, but its not quite the right fit.

If you don't intend to justify OSX then you've found yourself in the wrong thread I'm afraid.

The attitude in this thread is quite disturbing, yet not unexpected, mind you. Something I've always suspected.

No, I don't have to justify my personal choice to you or to anybody.

like stated before deal with it and move along.

 

[semiautomatix]

And there is the crux, you came to troll, not to have a discussion.

No I came to have a mature discussion, but only certain forumites seem inclined to that end.

Unfortunately your attitude hasn't re-inforced my image; but if you would can keep the discussion beyond "I know you am but what I am" I am more than happy to continue.

EDIT: Why join a thread entitled "OS X is overrated" and have no intention of defending your choice? What are you here for?

 

[semiautomatix]

Yeah I prefer 3rd party mice, mighty mouse is too unreliable.
OSX does indeed rock, I was a staunch xp user for many years and I'm really glad I switched to mac.
The real problem with using apple is having to deal with core ;-)

Unfortunately that is a reality in this country. With PCs at least you have options, I must admit I wouldn't like to be held to ransom by an over-priced corporation.

 

[Bizkit87]

Windows - for ppl who want to run anti virus software and have general usability
Linux - for ppl who want to get stuff done but they first have to customize their kernel/distro
Mac - for ppl who want to get stuff done without having to customize their kernel/distro

Ok, not wanna judge anyone, and how they feel about their OS? but this is a bit of stupid view? aint it?

You think if [by some magic intervention] Mac OS becomes the most used OS in the world, there will still be no virusses for it?

Linux - "but they first have to customize their kernel/distro" ??? explain, i started using ubuntu 9.04 at home, what do you define as customise? i installed, downloaded software needed [through package management] and there... done? movies/music/foto's/office/email... all done, without ever "re-compiling" or what ever your version of "customizing their kernel" means?

And your argument here with the viruses: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12537279/

and

http://www.viruslist.com/en/analysis?pubid=191968025

Apple’s small share of the global personal computer market has, until now, protected Macs from the unwanted attention of malware authors. However, as Apple systems become more popular, this will change; once critical mass is reached, more malware will undoubtedly start to appear. Even though malware like IM-Worm.OSX.Leap.a and Worm.OSX.Inqtana.A and exploits like Exploit.OSX.Safari.a and Exploit.OSX.Script-Ex were all proof of concept code, and had no obvious malicious payload, these proof of concept programs showed that Mac OS X does contain security flaws, and that these can be used to compromise the system.

so maybe you should stop trying to "prove" how awesome mac os is, since the more people that will use it, the more viruses there will be for mac's

 

[Sputnik]

No I came to have a mature discussion, but only certain forumites seem inclined to that end.

Unfortunately your attitude hasn't re-inforced my image; but if you would can keep the discussion beyond "I know you am but what I am" I am more than happy to continue.

EDIT: Why join a thread entitled "OS X is overrated" and have no intention of defending your choice? What are you here for?

I agree 100%. It is the most frustrating OS I've ever had the misfortune of working with. I use Linux (lets compare apple with apples and use two different Unix-based OSs) quite a bit and it is an absolute pleasure compare to the seventh level of hell that is OS X.

Going back to page 1, this is the type of stuff that gets you fragged around these parts. So let's kiss make up and start over...