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ath0 said:
Doesnt that qualify as "racism" against people of mixed descent?
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I ain't the one who has a problem with it. For all I know i could well be of mixed descent. However, froggytoo seems to think he is pure. ha-ha-ha...:D :D :D
 
ath0 said:
Everytime a white man touches someone of another race, it makes world headlines, this doesnt go unnoticed. These days we dont see many of these white racist incidents, maybe 2 if we are lucky. So white racist crimes are well documented in SA, the media is usually on the scene before the police arrives, ready for their front page "WHITE RACIST!!!" story.

The only white racist murders i have learnt about are Dewet Kritzinger and the Waterkloof guys.


FACT: The SA media is deliberately covering up racist crimes committed by non-whites.

You can say this is untrue,
Then i would ask you if you could show me examples of them labeling non-white racists in the same fashion they attack white racists?
You wouldnt have any examples, because the media hasnt made any, not your fault.


The bottom line is, in South Africa, only whites can be guilty of "racism", they can never be victims of racism.








This leaves me with the conclusion, that the word "racism" is exclusively used to attack white people in SA.

50,000+ whites murdered since 1994, and none of these cases qualify as "racism", any reason but "racism".

Black racism doesnt exist, and no journalist in SA would dare accuse a black person of being racist.
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what a load of bull. While I agree that black people do not get accused of being racist while many of them clearly are including some members on this post , it is absolute rubbish to say that "racism" is eclusively used to attack white people. Are you forgetting the indian and coloured people who are sometimes labelled to be racist as well.

Also, I do not know which papers you are reading because the ones heere in CT any corruption or scandal involving a black man(eg Zuma or Yengeni) makes headlines every single day while the criminals that steal from the poor( ie Fidentia's Arthur Brown) hardly make the headlines. So for you to claim that SA newspapers covering up stories, as fact. is laughable at best.

Sadly people like you like to point out the racism in others when you should look in the mirror before accusing people of being racist. Most of your points are just anti black, blame the government for all my problems just like other members blame apartheid for all their problems. I find it ironic that you keep pointing out that members play the race card then you go and blame the government for everything.
 
Leitmotif said:
Living in a gung-ho power fantasy. Yes, nowadays blacks could wipe out other racial groups with little trouble. That's because they control the infrastructure and the military - such as it is.

However, pure numbers mean absolutely nothing against trained and armed soldiers. The old SA government wasn't welcome anywhere else in the world. They had nowhere to go to, so they weren't just going to up and leave. Millions of lives would have been lost, but the vast majority would have been 'freedom fighters' or noncombatants on their side.

Get over this idea that SA could have been easily taken by force, and that all of the whites should have been killed. Yes, your ideology may have won out, but it was by no means guaranteed... and in any case the losses would have been staggering.

Be thankful for your own part that 1994 saw peaceful resolution. War is never glorious. War doesn't determine who is right - only who is left.
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...How are these theories of yours of any use today...???
 
Sharkey said:
So for you to claim that SA newspapers covering up stories, as fact. is laughable at best.
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The cases you've mentioned are not racially inspired, you failed to present them as evidence of the media reporting on racially inspired crimes commited by non-whites, they certainly have nothing to do with racism.

1. ZUMA
2. YENGENI
3. ARTHUR BROWN

Your claim that these guys are examples of the media reporting on racism committed by non-whites is rediculous.

Please show me examples of the media reporting on black racism?
No you cant, because there aren't any.
Black racism is taboo in the SA media.
 
Bageloo said:
...How are these theories of yours of any use today...???
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They aren't. Neither is your view that I should be thankful for being alive, being that I didn't die in some mythical uprising. Whether blacks or whites or martians would have won a war makes no difference. Tsimo was correct in his initial statement that war would have destroyed the country - a statement which you casually brushed off whilst claiming that it wouldn't have mattered because 'your side' would have won.

However, the arrogance of your viewpoint is astounding - and damaging. Instead of being grateful that it never came to the test, you speak as though the victory was inevietable and would have been easy, thus demeaning the peaceful co-operation that created this new country.

Traitor.
 
Jozi101 said:
I don't care where you got these. The mere fact that you went to so much trouble is a bit disturbing to say the least. I'm more concerned with the high crime rate that most of the country is currently experiencing. Not just whites. That's your territory right there.
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You are trying to dodge the fact, that the SA media is biased against whites.

Whites still dont qualify as victims of racism in SA.

You dont have to care, the truth is clearly too much for you too handle.
 
ath0 said:
The cases you've mentioned are not racially inspired, you failed to present them as evidence of the media reporting on racially inspired crimes commited by non-whites, they certainly have nothing to do with racism.

1. ZUMA
2. YENGENI
3. ARTHUR BROWN

Your claim that these guys are examples of the media reporting on racism committed by non-whites is rediculous.

Please show me examples of the media reporting on black racism?
No you cant, because there aren't any.
Black racism is taboo in the SA media.
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Fair enough. I will agree that here in SA it is believed that blacks cannot be racist which is crazy because I find that some of them are the biggest racists of all. The point I was trying to make to you was that not only "white" people are accused of racism. Here in CT, many Coloured people and Indian people are rightfully accused of racism as well.
 
ath0 said:
This leaves me with the conclusion, that the word "racism" is exclusively used to attack white people in SA.

50,000+ whites murdered since 1994, and none of these cases qualify as "racism", any reason but "racism".

Black racism doesnt exist, and no journalist in SA would dare accuse a black person of being racist.
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This is clearly a lie.

WHY?

Because the media reported on Yengini and Zuma.
 
Sharkey said:
Fair enough. I will agree that here in SA it is believed that blacks cannot be racist which is crazy because I find that some of them are the biggest racists of all. The point I was trying to make to you was that not only "white" people are accused of racism. Here in CT, many Coloured people and Indian people are rightfully accused of racism as well.
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I am aware of that, and its just more proof of our baised media.
 
Corrupt politicians have little to do with colour. Don't make it about that.
 
Leitmotif said:
They aren't. Neither is your view that I should be thankful for being alive, being that I didn't die in some mythical uprising. Whether blacks or whites or martians would have won a war makes no difference. Tsimo was correct in his initial statement that war would have destroyed the country - a statement which you casually brushed off whilst claiming that it wouldn't have mattered because 'your side' would have won.

However, the arrogance of your viewpoint is astounding - and damaging. Instead of being grateful that it never came to the test, you speak as though the victory was inevietable and would have been easy, thus demeaning the peaceful co-operation that created this new country.

Traitor.
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I think you got me mixed-up with some other guy. I never brushed off any statements but was just wondering if speculating about the past makes any sense to anyone...You could be wrong and yet you'd never know 'cause it's in the past. So why bother...?
 
ath0 said:
Whites still dont qualify as victims of racism in SA.
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Ok, this would be the funniest statement i've read today, if it wasn't so sad. So you want to qualify as a victim of racism? Well i'm afraid to tell you that you're fighting the wrong battle. Most of us are working towards getting rid of racism, not qualifying to be classified as victims.
 
Geriatrix said:
Why did you quote and argue with yourself? :eek:

Are you chatting with yourself with two usernames or am I missing something?
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I was being sarcastic, their attempts to prove that the rotten SA media is unbaised has failed them miserably.
 
ath0 said:
You are trying to dodge the fact, that the SA media is biased against whites.
Whites still dont qualify as victims of racism in SA.

You dont have to care, the truth is clearly too much for you too handle.
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Die Burger, Beeld, volksblad, City Press, Rapport are all biased against whites ? Do you even understand your own thought processes ?
 
If you compare black and white deaths in this country since 1994 as a percentage and try and compare apples with apples by comparing people of equivalent socio-economic position. I don't think there would be grounds to assume a racial motive to the crimes (i.e. the percentages may end up similar for both races).

A lot of well-off black business men and professionals are also needlessly killed during robberies or hijackings. I don't think it's something unique to whites.
 
Fudzy said:
Corrupt politicians have little to do with colour. Don't make it about that.
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I am not making it about that. The point here is that we agree that the media never cover stories about black people being racist. But I disagree with ath0 on the media being biased. If the media were as biased as he suggests, then people like Zuma and Yengeni would not get more publicity than Arthur Brown when clearly Brown's crimes are far worse.

You make a good point here Fudzy in saying that corrupt politicians have little to do with colour. If only the rest of the members could accept this. The fact is, power(politicians) lead to greed which eventually in most cases lead to corruption. Some people here seem to think that only "black" politicians are corrupt. They forget that when the DA were in charge of CT, there were corrupt politicians of "white" and "coloured" race. In fact, I think that the ANC here in CT was better than the DA. I mean what did the DA do for us "Coloured: people. All I saw was continuously been taken from the N2 gateway project. Also, the whole Atlantic seaboard was upgraded in the stay of the DA. I wonder if the underprivileged benefited from this. Helen Zille once again after being elected mayor here in CT took money from the gateway project.

All politicians are the same. Lies, lies , lies. I will not vote for the ANC or the DA as they are both the same(benefits for a single race).
 
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