Paladin talents/spellsand changes as requested by blizz

Just to clairfy something

I'm not dishing your effort at all.

All I'm saying is that IMHO the classes are being changed and nerved to much. The moment you learn how to deal with a certain class some idiot at Blizzard decide to change something.

So currently I like things the way they are... My Warrior got nerved very bad.. as you all should know. That changed the whole way of playing the char. I feels like you need to learn your char from scratch again.

Good Pala's (Skill wise) can be very dangerous. based on that I would say no to any changes. Not that what you're saying is in all wrong. I just hate the idea :o
 
Dusk said:
Okay as soon as i go home i will cast JOW and no SOW and let the mob hit me and see.
I might be wrong but not as far as i can remember.
I will report later from home. :P
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Yea the results would be interesting :p
I can just talk from a overall viewpoint where JoW is used to help the whole raid to regain mana, from hits they do and not hits taken.
 
Dusk said:
Yeah sure you can cleanse and prevent being slowed for a while. Just remember we run exacty the same speed as them. So if they are far away they just run when we run while casting dots on us. Stop to heal and the just pump out the nukage and interupt spells while their dots just carry on ticking away.
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You still have a realy good stun ability.
But since WoW alpha and closed beta release paladins have changed from the best pvp class to one of the weakest. Dont know if any of you still remember when undead horde were still clasified as Undead and not Humanoid? Paladins just walked all over the undead back then.
 
I can imagine with holy wrath and exorsism :P
Stun ability is nice but range on it it just to low.
 
Let me ask this while we in the proses of talking pvp.
First of , when facing a paladin, what it your 3 most feared spells you expect from him/her.
Then also what is your 3 most feared classes in PVP and what 3 spells (and what those spells do, for those of us that might not know all the other classes spells) from them ?
 
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Dusk said:
Let me ask this while we in the proses of talking pvp.
First of , when facing a paladin, what it your 3 most feared spells you expect from him/her.
Then also what is your 3 most feared classes in PVP and what 3 spells (and what those spells do, for those of us that might not know all the other classes spells) from them ?
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I do PvP in my Rogue

I have never met a Pala that could kill me. Sap, Ambush, backstab, gauge, backstab... and finishing move.

That being said. I hate it when they do that dropping Hammer thingy :eek:
Then again they can only use it when they see me.. but I hate it like shyt.
 
Dusk said:
Let me ask this while we in the proses of talking pvp.
First of , when facing a paladin, what it your 3 most feared spells you expect from him/her.
Then also what is your 3 most feared classes in PVP and what 3 spells from them ?
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Paladin: bubble, heal, dispell Just hate it when I get that warrior to 10% HP then the Paladin heals him full, switching to the paladin get him to 50% Hp the first two shots and when I just think he is dea, he bubbles run away or heal, all the time having his dps partner cracking my head. Dispell slow efects, traps that is just damn annoying!

Worst classes
Warrior, mortal strike, execute, hamstring, fear Ok, ok, I know that is 4 abilities but some warriors seem to do all 4 those in under 2 seconds...

Rogue, stun, stun, stun, Did I mention I dont like being stunned?

Mage, POM, Pyroblast, iceblock 3 minute mages are soo anoying when they just jump you do 6k dmg and run off. Or iceblock just when u think they are dead.
 
As a Paladin, If I see another paladin my biggest Fear is not one spell really but instead, SoC Proc, followed by CS, Followed by JoC. 10k damage in 1.5 seconds is hard to survive.

Classes that give me hard time

Arms Warriors, MS & Last Stand FTL
Holy Priests, Mana Burn FTL

If I am pvping on my Warlock my biggest fears are warriors using zerker rage and assassination rogues.

Then again PvP is not meant to be balanced around 1v1.
 
Just interresting fact, and im in no way bragging.
I always end up top 5 honour kills but if i have even 3 killing blows i am amazed :P
36/25/0 not really pvp spec but it makes me hard to kill and seems to rack in honour points that way.
I guess its cause i support a lot, but 1 on one against squishies (cloth wearing classes) i dont ever expect to win. I normally just try to stay alive long enough for someone to help me.
 
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Just thinking about something else.
there is a lot of drain mana spells out there and that can be very harsh on my paladin.
Which classes have mana drain spells and what amounts do they drain per sec?
I normally dont see who is draining me but i definately see my paladin go OOM very quick.
 
Dusk said:
Just thinking about something else.
there is a lot of drain mana spells out there and that can be very harsh on my paladin.
Which classes have mana drain spells and what amounts do they drain per sec?
I normally dont see who is draining me but i definately see my paladin go OOM very quick.
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Priest = Mana Tap ... Nasty stuff ;)
 
Hunters also do mana drain shots... I know when I face a pally, its the first thing I do. Get mana drains on the bubble boy....

As a hunter, you cannot nuke a pally down as long as he has mana...
 
Warlocks can drain aswell

Hunter one can be dispelled though (not sure if both priests and paladins can dispell it? )
 
Hunter viper sting is about 200-350 mana per tic, depend if talented, but will have to check that.
Priest and warlock should be faster than that
 
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