Paying so much for games

Just checked out the pre-order price of Black Ops 3 on PC R699? What madness is that.

I remember when new PC games cost R299, not that long ago...

Bad times. I bought Don bradman cricket for R500 last year and Rugby challenge 3 will be 50$ = R680 :twisted:.
 
Just checked out the pre-order price of Black Ops 3 on PC R699? What madness is that.

I remember when new PC games cost R299, not that long ago...

You can preorder Blops 3 on G2A for R550. Slightly better price. CoD games generally have rubbish prices though until sometime after launch.
second hand. always.

Secondhand hardware - most definitely. Secondhand games - hell no. The latter totally cuts out the developer and isn't much better than piracy.
 
I get a free game every month thanks to eBucks so this doesn't really affect me.

Even if I didn't, I don't really see where this R900 figure comes from. I usually see new releases at around R600-R750, and they will probably drop in price when the previous gen consoles are no longer supported. The previous gen is holding us back and the sooner it dies, the better for everyone...
 
the cost of having a gaming pc and also the hassles it has is not worth it for me. console gaming is my favorite.

I game/work on a machine that's probably about R7000 cost these days (I upgraded it over time). I decided to drag it to my lounge yesterday and set it up in front of my TV with two controllers when friends came over. Enjoyed some Rocket League, Castle Crashers, and Metal Slug.

I own a PS3 but the last game I bought for it was The Last of Us because of the price on console games. Bought maybe 6 other games over its lifespan and now use it mainly as a bluray player.
 
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Just checked out the pre-order price of Black Ops 3 on PC R699? What madness is that.

I remember when new PC games cost R299, not that long ago...
But steam sale! In 3 years time...

:whistle:
 
i have a ps4 console and will splash out when a game comes out that i really want ie bloodborne etc
but with the others i wait a week or 2 after release and always manage to pick it up at way less like R500 and below sometimes

The second hand gaming market is booming just have a look at sagamer and you most probably will find what you looking for at a decent price, also trade you finished games for one you want.
 
Secondhand games - hell no. The latter totally cuts out the developer and isn't much better than piracy.

That doesn't make sense. The developer already got paid on the first purchase of the game. You buying second-hand has no bearing on the developer so the consideration is on you ultimately and its an original copy. I don't see how that could be seen as piracy.
 
I have purchased my PS4 games on my Edgars card (at CNA). Paying off over 6 months (interest free). Doesn't seem so expensive then.
 
I've been a PC gamer for years now and I have no idea what you're talking about.

The new RRP for XB1 games is R999, and PS4 is about to get the same. Think about how much you would spend on a PC even if you didn't play PC games, then just add what you'd spend on console hardware. You'll probably be well over R10k if you did the maths. Then just buy a nice secondhand gaming PC with that money on Carbonite and you're sorted.

PC gaming vs. console gaming isn't even an argument when it comes to cost - PC games is significantly cheaper. I would know - my disposable income increased quite a bit when I sold my PS3 and upgraded my PC for gaming. Then you consider that PC games run at 1080p easily, have better graphics, better performance, a much larger selection of games etc. and it becomes a no-brainer.

Also, you only need to upgrade a gaming rig once in a blue moon.

Problem is, 99% of games these days are made for consoles, then a piss-poor last-minute PC port is released, sometimes so buggy it's unplayable. Look at AssCreed IV, or Unity, Or Batman Arkham Knight for example. And even when they aren't horrible, buggy messes, the interface and control schemes are still the simplistic stuff they use on consoles, just mapped onto a keyboard.
 
That doesn't make sense. The developer already got paid on the first purchase of the game. You buying second-hand has no bearing on the developer so the consideration is on you ultimately and its an original copy. I don't see how that could be seen as piracy.

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how is buying second hand = piracy :confused:

besides at R899 a game the devs are getting plenty back
 
+1

how is buying second hand = piracy :confused:

besides at R899 a game the devs are getting plenty back
Will say it again, R899 is the exception rather than the norm. You will find many new releases at R600-R750, and as soon as the previous gen dies out, these prices will align themselves to those of the previous gen...
 
I pre-ordered NFS and will do the same for Black Ops 3.
That's nearly R1800 for 2 games :/ but I will do it gladly.

I have quite a bit of games in my collection and only 2 of them so far I've payed more than R400 for due to very decent discounts from XBLive.
GTA - payed R780 on launch day
Far cry 4 - Paid around the same on launch day and ended up doing a straight swap for advanced warefare.
Now I will be paying for the 2 mentioned above. All my other games cost very little or nothing at all.

Oh, and I sold my gaming PC used for nearly R10k and switched to XB1.
Not regretting it at all :)
 
Will say it again, R899 is the exception rather than the norm. You will find many new releases at R600-R750, and as soon as the previous gen dies out, these prices will align themselves to those of the previous gen...

Don't hold your breath over ps3 and xbox 360 going away soon. Look at the ps2, you still get new games on the shelf for it.
 
Don't hold your breath over ps3 and xbox 360 going away soon. Look at the ps2, you still get new games on the shelf for it.

No you don't, the last PS2 game released was in 2013. With very few blockbuster titles in the years leading up to that.

Using this timeframe, that gives the PS3/360 another 3 years or so before completely dying out. Over the next few years, fewer and fewer blockbuster titles will be released for them...
 
That doesn't make sense. The developer already got paid on the first purchase of the game. You buying second-hand has no bearing on the developer so the consideration is on you ultimately and its an original copy. I don't see how that could be seen as piracy.

Two scenarios:
1 - I buy a game and you pirate it. The publisher received payment for one game.
2 - I buy a game and sell it to you. The publisher received payment for one game.

Here's why I think buying secondhand games is particularly uncool - almost all other digital entertainment industries aren't nearly as impacted by piracy. Musicians make most of their money from live performances, movies make most of their money from box office ticket sales, TV shows determine their future budgets mostly from live viewership, books can be sold forever whereas games have a short shelf life etc.

I feel strongly that the creators of the content that I enjoy should be remunerated. I buy my books on my Kindle, stream all my music on Simfy, have DSTV and multiple streaming services through UnoTelly, buy all my software incl. video games legally on PC, make an effort to see the movies I'm anticipating during the first week they're in theatres etc.

Problem is, 99% of games these days are made for consoles, then a piss-poor last-minute PC port is released, sometimes so buggy it's unplayable. Look at AssCreed IV, or Unity, Or Batman Arkham Knight for example. And even when they aren't horrible, buggy messes, the interface and control schemes are still the simplistic stuff they use on consoles, just mapped onto a keyboard.

The figure is closer to the opposite of 99%. I only play PC games since selling my PS3 years ago, and I come across bad ports once in a blue moon. I preordered Arkham Knight and finished the entire game in a few days - no technical issues to speak of. Many people also reported not having problems. But even then, bad ports tend to come from a small handful of lazy publishers. Fortunately we have Steam refunds now - and publishers are being harshly punished for broken ports as Steam does not refund their commission on sales. Bad ports will definitely decline from now on.

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how is buying second hand = piracy :confused:

besides at R899 a game the devs are getting plenty back

The publishers aren't responsible for the insane game prices in the UK, Europe, Australia, Brazil and here. They certainly don't see more money as a result of those prices. Blame laws, regulations and greedy importers for that.

If you don't want to pay exorbitant prices for your games, just switch to PC.
 
Two scenarios:
1 - I buy a game and you pirate it. The publisher received payment for one game.
2 - I buy a game and sell it to you. The publisher received payment for one game.

No Bryn, for the life of me I cannot see your point. You're saying, the developer/publisher should be paid twice or more for the same item?
 
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