PC to console gamers

semaphore said:
Alien Isolation has some stealth to it, but if you want to learn fast to aim and react quickly , pick up any of the battle field games. Battlefield hardline is pretty fun.
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Yeah, that's an option. I was thinking about jumping in at the deep end.

I'll keep on with the last of us just now and see how it pans out.
 
Nuro said:
You are looking at this from a technical point of view. I agree, pc is better, and for the record, I like pc and consoles.
But remember that a lot of ordinary people are buying branded desktops and laptops. They have no interest in building their own. This often means they are trying to play games on integrated chipsets, or very weak discrete chipsets. That is why the steam survey reflects this. The pc gaming industry is bigger than the technical people running the latest and greatest. The machine simply wasn't meant for gaming, as they were probably looking for a good deal, and from a gaming perspective this leads to disappointment.
Consoles are built with gaming as the primary use. It's plug and play most of the time. Sure, the console graphics look dated toward the end of its life span, but that is the trade off.
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As I said above, consoles are nice for casual gamers. You can however buy a prebuilt gaming machine on a budget from a number of places.


satanboy said:
Your bank balance and the sky is the limit.
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Moot point, the discussion was about raw performance, not price point.
 
.QQ. said:
As I said above, consoles are nice for casual gamers. You can however buy a prebuilt gaming machine on a budget from a number of places.




Moot point, the discussion was about raw performance, not price point.
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You're starting to sound like Bryn, please don't.
 
semaphore said:
I play xbox one, fps took me about three weeks to get used to. But now I am fine and actually enjoy it with the controller and yes I think you can be equally on par with a keyboard and mouse. But it does take time and it can be frustrating.
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In relative terms, perhaps. But it is a pretty well accepted fact that a pro gamer playing with KB and Mouse will outplay one using a console controller. The mouse is just more reactive and the fact that your left hand can use all 5 fingers simultaneously to give commands, vs thumb and one finger, means that you can just do more, in less time, with more precision when using the KB+M.
 
Personally, i have a ps4 for exclusives, everything else is on PC. Connect pc to TV with hdmi cable and use the controller for games like witcher etc.
 
SoulTax said:
In relative terms, perhaps. But it is a pretty well accepted fact that a pro gamer playing with KB and Mouse will outplay one using a console controller. The mouse is just more reactive and the fact that your left hand can use all 5 fingers simultaneously to give commands, vs thumb and one finger, means that you can just do more, in less time, with more precision when using the KB+M.
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Well thankfully I aspire to other things in my life than being a pro-gamer :) But I still have no problem playing FPS on my xbox.
 
.QQ. said:
Here you go, first game that came to mind : Witcher3 can't maintain 30 fps on either console.
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Your original claim:
.QQ. said:
No it isn't.

Consoles can barely handle new titles running low-medium settings on 30fps @ 720p, on PC the sky is the limit.
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From your link:
The team at Digital Foundry did a brief comparison of the PS4 and Xbox One versions of the game, but the results are far from clearcut. As you may remember, the PS4 version runs at 1080p, but the Xbox One uses dynamic resolution scaling to switch between 900p and 1080p depending on how graphically intensive the scene is. And while the PS4 is capped at 30fps, the Xbox One is not
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Please show me where this "can barely handle new titles running low-medium settings on 30fps @ 720p" rubbish comes from...
 
SoulTax said:
In relative terms, perhaps. But it is a pretty well accepted fact that a pro gamer playing with KB and Mouse will outplay one using a console controller. The mouse is just more reactive and the fact that your left hand can use all 5 fingers simultaneously to give commands, vs thumb and one finger, means that you can just do more, in less time, with more precision when using the KB+M.
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Hence the need for auto-aiming assistance type things in console games...dunno if that's still a thing. Bugged the hell out of me when I played Gears of War with my brother-in-law...the game snatching my reticule to the target felt so weird.

Ultimately it's more about the gaming experience on each platform...sure your aim and reaction time is impaired on a console. But so is everyone elses...are you having as much or more fun than on the PC? I generally have as much fun when I console as when I PC game.
 
.QQ. said:
;)
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Still avoiding the question. Specifically this part:
Please show me where this "can barely handle new titles running low-medium settings on 30fps @ 720p" rubbish comes from...
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I'd like to know which PS4/XB1 title can barely run a game on low settings at 720p...
 
semaphore said:
Well thankfully I aspire to other things in my life than being a pro-gamer :) But I still have no problem playing FPS on my xbox.
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Ye agreed. But although not everyone is a pro gamer. Nearly everyone that plays games, especially FPS games, is playing with some kind of competitive undertone. I merely wanted to clarify, that when you said, "Equally on par", that it is completely relative. Equal to other console gamers of similar skill? Sure. Equal to yourself, on PC? Not likely.
 
Mike Hoxbig said:
Still avoiding the question. Specifically this part:

I'd like to know which PS4/XB1 title can barely run a game on low settings at 720p...
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And you're still avoid the fact the article literally says Witcher3 can't maintain 30 fps.

To explain low-medium settings to you, by definition the settings on a console would be low-medium on a PC. Short draw distance, little to no AA, lower resolution textures, lower frame rates, lower overall resolution.

Some people just wanna pop a game into their console from time to time and chill in the couch, and that's fine but to claim that the new consoles are "next-gen" is a load of marketing hooey. A console is nothing more than a convenient low spec pc where the user has zero control and the publishers have you over a barrel.
 
.QQ. said:
but to claim that the new consoles are "next-gen" is a load of marketing hooey.
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...but they're next gen consoles :p I haven't heard anyone claim they're the next gen of gaming devices in general.
 
.QQ. said:
A console is nothing more than a convenient low spec pc with direct access to its hardware where the user has zero control thanks to STANDARDIZED hardware and the publishers have you over a barrel with system exclusive games.
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You're right

Now stop berating us console owners every time you post in the Gaming sub forum.

Somewhere along the line PC Gaming lost it's simple 'install game' > 'play game' methodology. Console Gaming still works like that. Some people prefer not to fight with INI files for hours on end tweaking profiles just to get a game to run.

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