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PC vs the "TV" consoles
- Thread starter Vember
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The Big Firefly
Expert Member
Bwahahaha...sorry...i'm crying here....bwahahaha
this whole thread is my fault....hahahaha...i'm sorry...it all started like this...
i said that that PS2's are cool in the NFS Carbon thread...then i got the reply that PS2's are gay...and so the "are consoles gay" post was formed...then the whole pc vs ps2 thing came up and now we have the "PC vs the TV Consoles" thing started...hahaha....
well i know this thing ended by Vember saying that "both it is" but let me give me 2 cents...since i do play on both the PS2 and PC...
here goes "accouncing voice" the pros and cons of consoles and pc gaming and see who wins....
ok i'll start by commenting that you can't really compare the two because a pc is not really a dedicated gaming system...it's a multifuction unit...but let's try anyway....
1.) Ease of playing
Console = press power button...open tray...insert disc...play
PC = Same as above but...check that system requirements meets...check for updated drivers...make sure you have the latest game patch installed to avoid compatibility issues....check your direct x version....make sure you have enough free space....etc...
Console = 1 Point
PC = 0 Point
2.) Graphics
We have not even seen PS3 yet so let's work on Xbox 360...
Well to make this one easy a decent display card is gonna cost you the same as the 360 console
Console = 1 Point
PC = 0 Point
3.) Control
Okay the controller on a console is quite handy....but damn no chance for that working great in a CounterStrike Tournament....hey wait ,...what's this ..USB ports...hmmm..uses standard keyboard and mouse...well then...
Console = 1 Point
PC = 0.5 Point (because it has K+M as standard)
4.) Multiplayer
Yes yes the xbox has ethernet as well....but pc's will be the LAN king...(even though i don't play multiplayer)...i think it's fair
Console = 0.5 Point (Xbox 360 for effort)
PC = 1 Point
5.) Pricing of Hardware
No Comment
Console = 1 Point
PC = 0 Point
6.) Pricing of Games
Yes PC games are cheaper...but have you seen the Platinum on PS and Exclusives on Xbox Pricing...
Console = 0.5 Point
PC = 1 Point
7.) The Games
I Still can't find any of the new Mortal Kombats on PC....anywayz...
quite alot of the games on PC's are ports from consoles and verse vice...so
Console = 1 Point
PC = 1 Point
The Conclusion
Console = 6 Points
PC = 3.5 Points
I guess for Gaming ...the main topic in this post the console is better at the end of the day
my 2cent on your 2cent...
2.) 7600gt = R1300 xbox 360 = R4500...7600gt will give you more or less the same graphics...so Console = .5 Points
PC = 1 Points
3.)controller is standard to....you get controllers for pc and n keyboard and mouse for ps an xbox....so that does not count at all...Console = 0 Points
PC = 0 Points
4.) multiplayer on xbox....whahahaha....try putting 100 people in a hall each with there own xbox and tv....Console = 0 Points
PC = 1 Points
5.)o yes and you forgot a good tv for the console is about R2000 so that adds to 6500..Console = 1 Points
PC = 0.5 Points
so its comes to:
Console = 4 Points
PC = 4.5 Points
that proves it more less tha same....
ps. sorry dude i had to do it...still love you
Azrael
Senior Member
The good thing about a pc is, graphics and gameplay are constantly being improved where as on a console, developers are limited to the current specs of say an XBOX 360 to build their games off, limiting their potential
Something to remember though: With consoles, developers are forced to try and get more out of the hardware, because they're stuck with it for a few years. They really have to push it to its limits and sometimes achieve things you wouldn't have thought possible at the initial release.
But in the case of PCs, developers can rest assured that the hardware market will release more powerful components every few months - it's never ending. They fuel eachother. Developers don't really have to try and get every sinlge drop of performance out of your 6600GT - they know you'll just have to upgrade if you want the game to look as they intended.
But I agree with the other guys - get both
GavinMannion
Executive Member
Dude. Lanning is not new, 12 years ago I used to setup Quake I (yes it existed) lan games with over 30 people there. You couldn't all play Quake at the same time but Warcraft and Starcraft where also big then.
The Xbox 360 has Xbox Live. Last time I heard they have something like 2 million people connected together. You can also LAN consoles but why when you have xbox live?
Macguyver1
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How on earth do you LAN consoles?
GavinMannion
Executive Member
System link? Gets you 8 players
The Big Firefly
Expert Member
Bondizzo
Expert Member
you can lan the xbox 360 as it has an ethernet port plus you can use a monitor instead of a tv, consoles were made specifically to play games, so you would have to compare a pc to only playing games and dont include anything in the argument like a pc can do other stuff e.g. office work, when it boils down to just games I believe the console is the winner as it was made from the ground up to serve that purpose and thats why it doesnt need 1 gig of ram, so there for gaming console > pc and the console industry has a bigger market
GavinMannion
Executive Member
WOw.. just did some more research
http://www.xbox.com/en-US/support/systemuse/xbox360/console/connecttoanotherconsole.htm
16 Consoles.... 4 players per console... hmm not enough fingers
http://www.xbox.com/en-US/support/systemuse/xbox360/console/connecttoanotherconsole.htm
16 Consoles.... 4 players per console... hmm not enough fingers
Piesang
Executive Member
my 2cent on your 2cent...
2.) 7600gt = R1300 xbox 360 = R4500...7600gt will give you more or less the same graphics...so Console = .5 Points
PC = 1 Points
How do you get to this???
7600gt = R1300 = 1point
xbox360 = R4500 = 0.5points
If you have the 7600gt GFX card you still need a decent PC. Another R4000.
I think you're wrong.
Haha....The Big FireFly....ja i told you that this will become a war...good one 
anywayz..accourding to sources you can LAN a Xbox 360 with a PC...aka the Guy on the PC can play directly against the dude on the 360...but the support is game specific....(Quake4,Prey,etc)...
Macguyver1.....Stop being so serious...have a milkshake
and..P.S. you can use standard USB keyboard and USB Mouse on the PS2 and upcoming PS3...and yes some if not most of the FPS games on the console does support it
anywayz..accourding to sources you can LAN a Xbox 360 with a PC...aka the Guy on the PC can play directly against the dude on the 360...but the support is game specific....(Quake4,Prey,etc)...
Macguyver1.....Stop being so serious...have a milkshake
and..P.S. you can use standard USB keyboard and USB Mouse on the PS2 and upcoming PS3...and yes some if not most of the FPS games on the console does support it
Highflyer_GP
Honorary Master
How do you get to this???my 2cent on your 2cent...
2.) 7600gt = R1300 xbox 360 = R4500...7600gt will give you more or less the same graphics...so Console = .5 Points
PC = 1 Points
7600gt = R1300 = 1point
xbox360 = R4500 = 0.5points
If you have the 7600gt GFX card you still need a decent PC. Another R4000.
I think you're wrong.
Yip and apart from that, X360 = R3700 for the premium. If you're going to compare the price of one aspect of the PC (i.e. gfx card) then you can't compare it to the overall price of the entire console - you'd have to compare it to the price of the gfx card within the console, which isn't very practical. Therefore if you're going to compare the price of the entire console, you have to do the same with the entire PC. And unfortunately, for R3700 you're not going to get a PC that's going to compete with an X360. That 7600GT is also quite dated and in no way is it superior to the X360's gfx.
Piesang
Executive Member
Haha....The Big FireFly....ja i told you that this will become a war...good one
anywayz..accourding to sources you can LAN a Xbox 360 with a PC...aka the Guy on the PC can play directly against the dude on the 360...but the support is game specific....(Quake4,Prey,etc)...
Macguyver1.....Stop being so serious...have a milkshake
and..P.S. you can use standard USB keyboard and USB Mouse on the PS2 and upcoming PS3...and yes some if not most of the FPS games on the console does support it
Hahaha, I like this whole "war" thing. It's funny though.
Bondizzo
Expert Member
lol at pc gamers feeling threatened
The Big Firefly
Expert Member
How do you get to this???
7600gt = R1300 = 1point
xbox360 = R4500 = 0.5points
If you have the 7600gt GFX card you still need a decent PC. Another R4000.
I think you're wrong.
i gave the prices because of this statment....a decent display card = a xbox360.....well or not....7600gt will more ore less = the xbox360's graphics....so there you have it....
Highflyer_GP
Honorary Master
i gave the prices because of this statment....a decent display card = a xbox360.....well or not....7600gt will more ore less = the xbox360's graphics....so there you have it....
Not really, maybe a 7900GT or a 7800GTX which would probably be around the same price as an X360 core unit (R2700).
PS: I'm not choosing one over the other since I have both
Just saying that both consoles and PC's have their strengths and weaknesses depending on each persons needs and gaming habits. What one person may regard as a pro could well be a con to another person.
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i gave the prices because of this statment....a decent display card = a xbox360.....well or not....7600gt will more ore less = the xbox360's graphics....so there you have it....
HUH???XBOX360 - Custom ATI Graphics Processor 500 MHz
10 MB embedded DRAM
48-way parallel floating-point dynamically-scheduled shader pipelines
Unified shader architecture
Polygon Performance 500 million triangles per second
Pixel Fill Rate 16 gigasamples per second fillrate using 4X MSAA
Shader Performance 48 billion shader operations per second
Then...
Playstation 3 - NVIDIA's chip is codenamed RSX. The chip runs at 550MHz and is capable of rendering video natively at 1080p, or 1920x1080 progressively (non-interlaced). It's touted to hit 1.8 TFLOPS of floating point performance and can perform 100 billion shader operations per second, or 136 shader operations per cycle. The RSX uses 128-bit precision for enhanced color definition, making the system capable of High Dynamic Range rendering. Programming-wise, it's based on OpenGL and NVIDIA's CG language.
NVIDIA recently released its GeForce 7900 series GPUs for the PC, which provides a reasonable real-world approximation of what sort of effects the RSX and PlayStation 3 can handle.
The Big Firefly
Expert Member
XBOX360 - Custom ATI Graphics Processor 500 MHz
10 MB embedded DRAM
48-way parallel floating-point dynamically-scheduled shader pipelines
Unified shader architecture
Polygon Performance 500 million triangles per second
Pixel Fill Rate 16 gigasamples per second fillrate using 4X MSAA
Shader Performance 48 billion shader operations per second
Then...
Playstation 3 - NVIDIA's chip is codenamed RSX. The chip runs at 550MHz and is capable of rendering video natively at 1080p, or 1920x1080 progressively (non-interlaced). It's touted to hit 1.8 TFLOPS of floating point performance and can perform 100 billion shader operations per second, or 136 shader operations per cycle. The RSX uses 128-bit precision for enhanced color definition, making the system capable of High Dynamic Range rendering. Programming-wise, it's based on OpenGL and NVIDIA's CG language.
NVIDIA recently released its GeForce 7900 series GPUs for the PC, which provides a reasonable real-world approximation of what sort of effects the RSX and PlayStation 3 can handle.
hehehehe....and quese what!......you stil play it on n 800x600 tv screen....
Piesang
Executive Member
hehehehe....and quese what!......you stil play it on n 800x600 tv screen....
Maybe not, it looks better on a 32" LCD TV.