Performance showdown: OSX Snow Leopard beats Windows 7

[PeterCH]

Aren't there any tests out yet where both OS run on their own Hardware?
Macbook Pro with SL and any Laptop with same specs and WIN7?

Pretty sure the numbers will turn.

My Acer which is equiped with a T7400 and 1.5GB ddr2 667 Ram and a Geforce 7300 Go 128mb boots WIN7 32bit under 35 sec. Im pretty sure the Macbook Pro is more powerfull.

This is what happens when MAc Fanboys get bored, they post rubbish like this (not you aqua, u just copy and pasted)


Edit. Shutdown time of 12.6 sec for WIN7 on a fresh installed system. What rubbish

Comparing Win 7 and Mac OSX on such issues is pointless unless the two are really worlds apart.

Mac OSX is easier to use for noobs, less danger of their computer becoming part of a botnet or their credit card details being stolen by keyloggers. They have less to worry about in terms of maintenance. The OS also bothers you less. The application support is however limited but for what is there it is very good for select niches. There are even obscure products available for the Mac such as GroBoto 3D (and a Win version too).

You can do everything on the Mac a basic PC user does - you can use P2P, IM, make Skype or VoipCheap calls, browse the web, view PDFs, view pictures, download and play music, convert MP3/video etc, download video and pictures from your camera, connect 3rd party MP3 players like the Cowon, read NTFS disks, write to NTFS disks with a plugin, burn CD/DVD/Bluray natively in Final Cut Studio or with Roxio Toast, customise your file system with built in apps and add-ons such as Drive Genius, test your RAM with Rember, control your fan speed, run Windows in a box with free VirtualBox/paid Fusion/Parallels, run it natively with Bootcamp, run other OS'es, run AV if you want, run special firewalls if you want, play games native and via bootcamp, sometimes via parallels/fusion; do email, do Office work with iWork (cheaper than MS Office), buy MS Office for Mac, use OpenOffice, rip DVDs with MacTheRipper (free) and other software (non-free) like on the PC with AnyDVD/DVDIdle, use MPlayer or VLC to watch videos, use QuickTime X which is customised for fast video conversion, easily edit your own movies with built in softs, burn movies to DVD with own softs, etc.

The choice between Mac and Win should be based on what software you want to run and whether you want a one package solution. Macs have a reputation for being made for narcissistic idiots, and sometimes maybe narcissistic people use them, but they're very good. I was an anti-Mac user too until I tried a Mac. I now use both.

In the end you're either slurping on Mr Ballmer's ... or Mr Jobbs' .

 

[Synaesthesia]

So the mac OS beat the windows OS running on mac and the mac OS is optimized for the mac hardware.

What kinda stupid test is this, why not take the amount they paid for said mac, go buy a pc for the same amount and run the tests. I would have expected this from peter not you aqua

I wonder how hackintosh would perform on a pc, pretty sure windows would smash it silly. Again why would you compare the 2.

OS X isn't optimized for Apple computers - it's optimized for Intel hardware. Macs pretty much are PC's these days, except they have EFI instead of BIOS, they're PC's.

I've got Snow Leopard running on my Dell Laptop (hackintosh). It feels faster than Windows 7. Haven't performed many tests but I'm not surprised it beat Windows in the multitasking test.

Windows 7 is a great operating system though, much more responsive & better than Vista in pretty much all respects, but still not as responsive as Snow Leopard, or even Leopard IMO.

 

[Necuno]

Mac OSX is easier to use for noobs

AHA ! i ****ing new it, that is why you are using Mac OSX

 

[Synaesthesia]

My Acer which is equiped with a T7400 and 1.5GB ddr2 667 Ram and a Geforce 7300 Go 128mb boots WIN7 32bit under 35 sec. Im pretty sure the Macbook Pro is more powerfull.

You should try OS X on your PC, with that hardware it'll work. But it takes a bit of hacking.

Shutdown times are the one department where Snow Leopard kicks Windows ass - Apple have got a trick with shutting down OS X now where it quits your applications super quickly.

Startup is pretty much equal - maybe OS X is a few seconds faster but you don't really feel it.

It's difficult to perform tests across both operating systems, as you need cross-platform applications. "Number crunching" tests, eg which OS encodes video faster is pointless too - they will be equal, on equal hardware.

The CNet Multimedia Multitasking test is one of the few tests where they test the operating system speed at performing multiple tasks and time and again the Macs win..

While the hardware is largely similar, MacBooks score better on our Multitasking test than similarly configured Windows laptops (such as the Dell Studio 15), thanks in part to the efficiency of the Mac operating system.

http://reviews.cnet.com/laptops/apple-macbook-core-2/4505-3121_7-33343540.html

 

[killadoob]

Look at the end of the day shut down and boot up times in my opinion are pointless.

i mean who actually shuts their windows 7 system down? I don't it hibernates and honestly who sits and watches their pc shut down?

Trying to compare the 2 seems pointless, both seem like awesome OS's and we should be lucky to have 3 good OS's being released in the last few months.

 

[Adenoid Hynkel]

In the end you're either slurping on Mr Ballmer's ... or Mr Jobbs' .

I agree with you. Both OS's will do the job pretty nice. In the end it really does not matter if the one OS is slighter faster in Booting or converting mp3's.
In the end its all baout what you like, if you been with apple for years, stay there and visa versa.

I wouldnt mind trying the new SL on my PC, I would like to know what the fuzz is all about Always when I visit IC I actually play around on a MAC. It looks pretty nice, and I believe it performs, just never had the use for it.

I will install SL to try out, when you install WIN7

 

[killadoob]

Peter has used windows 7, he stopped using it because he could not figure out how the pinning of icons work .

 

[PeterCH]

Peter has used windows 7, he stopped using it because he could not figure out how the pinning of icons work .

killadoob has never used OSX of any version, yet he dares to even comment in this thread.

I don't comment in Linux threads, I have only used Linux as a boot CD.

 

[PeterCH]

I will install SL to try out, when you install WIN7

If someone sends me a Win 7 LIVE CD or DVD I may try that again, otherwise never unless I buy a new machine and it only comes with 7.

I haven't upgraded to SL either .

 

[killadoob]

I have used kalaway hackintosh peter.

Ran very well apart from drivers for my 9800gx2 and only corel draw 11 is supported, other than that is was really nice.

If corel draw x4 worked i would have used it more to see what it can do.

Also my p3005 does not have postscript drivers for mac so that would be a 5k printer that is useless to me. I also tested ubuntu but again same problems with the stuff i need to work does not work. So i use windows because it works for me for everything i do.

 

[PeterCH]

I have used kalaway hackintosh peter.

Ran very well apart from drivers for my 9800gx2 and only corel draw 11 is supported, other than that is was really nice.

If corel draw x4 worked i would have used it more to see what it can do.

Also my p3005 does not have postscript drivers for mac so that would be a 5k printer that is useless to me.

Buy a Mac next time. Hackintosh has various issues which don't work too well. Spend some money.

Oh and change to Adobe Illustrator for Mac. Corel Draw sucks.

 

[killadoob]

It worked 100%, not apple's fault hp don't have drivers for my printer.

Even if i switched to illustrator my 5k printer still won't work, i need that printer for my workshop so yea. So yea hackintosh runs well.

 

[The_Techie]

I'm not sure I understand the whole PC vs Mac and Windows vs OSX argument. You buy:
1) The thing that allows you to do what you need to do
2) In the least amount of time
3) For the least amount of money

If it's a PC, you buy a PC. If it's a Mac, you buy a Mac.

 

[d0b33]

I'm not sure I understand the whole PC vs Mac and Windows vs OSX argument. You buy:
1) The thing that allows you to do what you need to do
2) In the least amount of time
3) For the least amount of money

If it's a PC, you buy a PC. If it's a Mac, you buy a Mac.

Linux>OSX>Windows.

For me anyway, but I use all 3.

 

[Adenoid Hynkel]

Does actually Apple/SL deliver a fully 64-bit implementation? Or does it still boot into a 32bit kernel?

 

[PeterCH]

Does actually Apple/SL deliver a fully 64-bit implementation? Or does it still boot into a 32bit kernel?

It's full 64bit and Leopard is also 64bit.

 

[The_Techie]

Linux>OSX>Windows.

For me anyway, but I use all 3.

I also prefer Linux to Windows, as it lets me do everything that I need to do (on a daily basis, gaming excluded) faster and cheaper than buying and using Windows (points 1,2 and 3 satisfied).

But there are certain things that I need Windows for, such as gaming.

 

[PeterCH]

I'm not sure I understand the whole PC vs Mac and Windows vs OSX argument. You buy:
1) The thing that allows you to do what you need to do
2) In the least amount of time
3) For the least amount of money

If it's a PC, you buy a PC. If it's a Mac, you buy a Mac.

1. Agree.
2. Agree.
3. I disagree here. If spending a bit more now saves you more in the long run or generates more for you anyway, spend a little more now. So Point 3 is not absolute but relative and needs to be cross referenced with points 1 and 2 and other extrernal factors (such as ease of use of software, price of software, safety of the machine etc).

 

[The_Techie]

1. Agree.
2. Agree.
3. I disagree here. If spending a bit more now saves you more in the long run or generates more for you anyway, spend a little more now. So Point 3 is not absolute but relative.

Of course, what I meant with the least amount of money takes all factors into account (initial acquisition costs, maintenance costs, update costs, recovery costs, etc).

EDIT: The amount of time I spend monthly restoring crashed Windows machines... At least it's a regular source of income Strangely enough mine doesn't give me any issues.

 

[d0b33]

Does actually Apple/SL deliver a fully 64-bit implementation? Or does it still boot into a 32bit kernel?

The newer macs boot with the full 64bit kernel(some not by default but can be enabled), the older macs like my 2007 macbook run 64bit apps but with the hybrid kernel, if an older mac has a 64bit EFI it can run a 64bit kernel but it's disabled due to a lack of 64bit drivers.