PhD graduate can't find work

NarrowBandFtw said:
Is there a variation of that graphic catering for humanities PhDs e.g. PhD in Gender Studies? Where you can study and keep pushing all your life, but your focus is bullcrap and you will not expand human knowledge AT ALL, if anything you're making the world a dumber place :D
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There are some things like gender studies that are so stupid you actually have to be an academic to understand it. :D
 
saturnz said:
being able to complete a Phd implies many things besides the knowledge you acquire as cguy has already mentioned, infact the knowledge you acquire is not that important.

as for your real world comments

I graduated with a masters in economics, went straight into an executive environment and left it 7 years later. I've been living in the real world with only that as my work experience and I'm doing fine I would like to think, despite having forgotten all the jacobians and partial derivatives in solving general models.
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That didn't seem to help you with calculating the realistic value of a 1991 Opel Monza COTY edition, so I doubt you were that vested in the subject anyway. :D
 
konfab said:
That didn't seem to help you with calculating the realistic value of a 1991 Opel Monza COTY edition, so I doubt you were that vested in the subject anyway. :D
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Nah he's fully vested, like a true Keynesian he thought you could inflate your way to prosperity ... :whistle:
 
konfab said:
That didn't seem to help you with calculating the realistic value of a 1991 Opel Monza COTY edition, so I doubt you were that vested in the subject anyway. :D
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so you know how much I bought it and sold it for?

hows work today by the way?
 
NarrowBandFtw said:
Nah he's fully vested, like a true Keynesian he thought you could inflate your way to prosperity ... :whistle:
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a true Kenynesian who rejects fiat currency

yeah this makes sense only to you, I suppose you also think all tables are cows?
 
cguy said:
They want people who can approach problems with the depth one gets from a research perspective, not people with highly specific knowledge.
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So a masters degree then.

I am in the very same category, I did a very research oriented master's degree, yet I am doing something right now that isn't related to the field. Hence why the investment of 5-7 years IMO is not worth it from an economics point of view( that is, if you want to be in business as opposed to academia).

If you have that work experience and can see there is a good PhD topic that would be relevant, then the two line up and I would be first person to say go for it. But most people don't really know what topics might be good one or not. This is why the PhD graduate in the OP couldn't find work.
 
NarrowBandFtw said:
Oh really, so you sold that car for some cows then? Gold coins? Or this evil fiat you claim to reject? ;)


:wtf:
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if I told you, you wouldn't believe me

you already believe I am a Keynesian, you made up a fact with no proof.

In the past 3 years most of my major deals has not included cash, including the purchasing of a property three weeks ago.
 
saturnz said:
so you know how much I bought it and sold it for?
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Did it ever make it to the showroom floor(not to sell) because of the historical significance you thought it had?

An economist would have looked at how many 1991 Opel Monzas there were and concluded: due to supply(a 1991 Opel Monza isn't exactly a rare car), there wouldn't exactly be people lining up to gaze upon the majesty of a car that isn't particularly special in any way (demand). Therefore it wouldn't be worth the time (which is the most scarce resource we have) or money(since that is the only way you could do it) to try and organise for some dealership to put it on their showroom floor and have it take up space of more economically productive items.
 
konfab said:
Did it ever make it to the showroom floor(not to sell) because of the historical significance you thought it had?

An economist would have looked at how many 1991 Opel Monzas there were and concluded: due to supply(a 1991 Opel Monza isn't exactly a rare car), there wouldn't exactly be people lining up to gaze upon the majesty of a car that isn't particularly special in any way (demand). Therefore it wouldn't be worth the time (which is the most scarce resource we have) or money(since that is the only way you could do it) to try and organise for some dealership to put it on their showroom floor and have it take up space of more economically productive items.
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So you are unfamiliar with George Akerlof's Market for Lemons then

I thought so, rather go back to work or something

(edit: George is a Keynesian)
 
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saturnz said:
you already believe I am a Keynesian, you made up a fact with no proof
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Yeah, no, you demonstrated that beyond any doubt back in this thread.

Curiously you also didn't seem to be familiar with the term which is a large part of even the most basic economics history class. So sorry dude, I don't believe you're a Masters grad in economics any more than I believe you made money off a worthless car or I believe this tripe right here:
saturnz said:
In the past 3 years most of my major deals has not included cash, including the purchasing of a property three weeks ago.
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No offence meant though, based on the information at my disposal I'm just objectively and utterly unconvinced.
 
greg_SA said:
My experience from lecturing and mentoring BTech and MTech students was that a large percentage just scrape through without doing much work. I think there is a large percentage of students studying engineering at a Technicon (compared to a University) that aren't actually interested in engineering and are just going through the motions.
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That happens with people with university degrees too.

The problem is that many people with degrees, both in this thread and out of it, seem to have some form of superiority complex.

When you have to start working with people from all walks of life, including those who went to technikons, your degree means squat and you actually have to start proving yourself. That snobbishness actually motivates those with 'lower level' qualifications to start outshining you.

PS: I have a degree and have long ago stopped caring about the fact that I have one. Means nothing after your first job, and is only useful in getting you an interview - which isn't really an advantage over those with technical diplomas as they don't have an issue landing interviews either...
 
NarrowBandFtw said:
Yeah, no, you demonstrated that beyond any doubt back in this thread.

Curiously you also didn't seem to be familiar with the term which is a large part of even the most basic economics history class. So sorry dude, I don't believe you're a Masters grad in economics any more than I believe you made money off a worthless car or I believe this tripe right here:


No offence meant though, based on the information at my disposal I'm just objectively and utterly unconvinced.
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so lets make a bet, R10 000 that I have a masters degree and can prove it

money to be transferred into a lawyer's trust account, and then I provide the proof and the money to be donated to the winner's charity of choice

what is your definition of a Keynesian, and what proof exactly have you got that I am one, that link just takes me to a random comment that confirms nothing.
 
saturnz said:
so lets make a bet, R10 000 that I have a masters degree and can prove it

money to be transferred into a lawyer's trust account, and then I provide the proof and the money to be donated to the winner's charity of choice

what is your definition of a Keynesian, and what proof exactly have you got that I am one, that link just takes me to a random comment that confirms nothing.
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Lmao, the internet equivalent of a playground fight. Hey let's make a bet that I'm so orsm... :crylaugh:
 
saturnz said:
so lets make a bet, R10 000 that I have a masters degree and can prove it

money to be transferred into a lawyer's trust account, and then I provide the proof and the money to be donated to the winner's charity of choice

what is your definition of a Keynesian, and what proof exactly have you got that I am one, that link just takes me to a random comment that confirms nothing.
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You tried that before on this forum.. how did that go down for you then?

I bet you R10000 that I'm more orsm than you and I can prove it.... deposit the money into my trust account, and I'll make sure its used for only orsm stuff.
 
ToxicBunny said:
You tried that before on this forum.. how did that go down for you then?

I bet you R10000 that I'm more orsm than you and I can prove it.... deposit the money into my trust account, and I'll make sure its used for only orsm stuff.
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that guy also chickened out
 
saturnz said:
what is your definition of a Keynesian, and what proof exactly have you got that I am one, that link just takes me to a random comment that confirms nothing.
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That link takes you to a thread, you'd need to read more than one post, but the proof is there.

saturnz said:
he started calling me names...
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Eh? I merely classified your economics perspective, it's not a derogatory term.

I'm of course not about to play your prick measuring game though, I'll leave it there, we're off topic anyway.
 
Mike Hoxbig said:
The problem is that many people with degrees, both in this thread and out of it, seem to have some form of superiority complex.
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My god you can say that again. Especially engineers. They'll also be sure to tell you that they have a BEng, not BTech. ;)

One of the unexpected uses of having a degree in Maths/Physics is having the ability to shut down these pompous prats when they inevitably start the degree dick measuring ritual.
 
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