Please Call Me battle

If that's what you want...

/me will henceforth refer to oom rpm as oom battle.
 
The lesson from this to all innovative people working for corporates:

Keep your trap shut when you get a brainwave.

If it is a success, the bosses will be praised with bonusses derived from the profits of the brainwave, and you will be lucky to see a few cents made from it.

If it fails, you will be in the dog box and carry all blame.

Been there and bitten as well.
 
Save a thought for former employee...

that will teach him to patent things before he gives it away...

even if he can prove verbal agreement, compensation will be few bucks unless verbal agreement stated that he will get x amount from proceeds of his invention.....


This could be voted as dumbest employee act.....
 
This is an interesting case - when can an employee claim a reward for an idea over and above his salary and bonuses? And are all your work/ideas the company's IP?
 
if the guy was bright enough, he would have patented the idea before mentioning it...

in general you would get the "raw" deal in any organization...
unless you're working for Mark Shuttleworth!
 
This just shows one what type of company Vodacom is. Doing the right thing is not part of their corporate culture.
 
just give the guy something - it WAS his idea you know, and now you're making tons of money from ads...

I hope he wins. he should, contract or not - he should be rewarded.
 
rpm said:
This is an interesting case - when can an employee claim a reward for an idea over and above his salary and bonuses? And are all your work/ideas the company's IP?
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wouldnt that depend on your contract with them as well?
A smart company would prepare for such a scenario
 
He never ever got a performance bonus etc from them while working there? Bit late to whine about it now
 
this pushes away any further innovation from employees at Vodacom, as the employees now learned it's just pointless, even if they idea works.

What kind of company doesn't reward it's own employees for bringing innovative (AND successful) ideas to the Table ?
 
If they gave the oke a million rand, it would all have gone away.
Instead, they breed discontent among their staff, and rack up the "Vodacom sucks" articles and posts.

Nicely played.
 
Moederloos said:
If they gave the oke a million rand, it would all have gone away.
Instead, they breed discontent among their staff, and rack up the "Vodacom sucks" articles and posts.

Nicely played.
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you forgot "future innovations"....

some guy might think of something and go sell the idea to MTN, because he knows Vodacom will fight him if he asks for a cent in return....
 
It's bloody pathetic. What would they have paid if they thought up the idea and wanted someone to develop it?

I say at least pay him that since he was involved with finance and had nothing to do with "Product development"
 
rpm said:
This is an interesting case - when can an employee claim a reward for an idea over and above his salary and bonuses?
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Only if there is specific agreement re the same.

And are all your work/ideas the company's IP?
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YES, if you give it to them in good faith without signing legally binding agreements.
 
rpm said:
This is an interesting case - when can an employee claim a reward for an idea over and above his salary and bonuses? And are all your work/ideas the company's IP?
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Well there's no conflict of interest here.
If you work in Finance and come up with a value added service for your company which is not what you paid to do, surely you should be compensated?

The company might have befitted in some financial way, but the biggest benefit they got internationaly is they came up with the idea of "please call me" a GSM world first!

Prepaid is also a world first and Vodacom first, the relevant people were handsomely compensated.

This sort of thing doesnt help the company one bit imo, the Telecoms world is saturating fast, you need fresh ideas so pay for it!!
 
rpm said:
And are all your work/ideas the company's IP?
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From lawyers have told me, it depends on what your contract is stating. If you contract states that everything you do, the IP belongs to the company, there is pretty much nothing you can do. If your contract doesn't say anything like that, then you may have a change to fight it. But I suppose this case will make that call a bit easier to make.

And also, it depends on who's got the deeper pocket? Your employer or you...
 
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