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Hey everyone.
Well PAWUG has been live now for 2 days almost. Been quite fun playing with the network.
I'm still waiting on SAOL for the link, it seems that I can't pick the SAOL highsite up on my antenna. But we'll have to wait and see about that.
Otherwise, if anyone is interested in logging on, drop me an email on wifi_dude@nebkom.co.za or drop me a PM.
I'll be putting up a website shortly with details and photos. We had to can the 1 sector as there wasn't enough space on the 3m mast of ours. We'll be putting the second sector up on an additional highsite.
Thanks guys for all the help.
Lets start WUGing now!
See you on the network.
Well PAWUG has been live now for 2 days almost. Been quite fun playing with the network.
I'm still waiting on SAOL for the link, it seems that I can't pick the SAOL highsite up on my antenna. But we'll have to wait and see about that.
Otherwise, if anyone is interested in logging on, drop me an email on wifi_dude@nebkom.co.za or drop me a PM.
I'll be putting up a website shortly with details and photos. We had to can the 1 sector as there wasn't enough space on the 3m mast of ours. We'll be putting the second sector up on an additional highsite.
Thanks guys for all the help.
Lets start WUGing now!
See you on the network.
rancid_bob
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so whats the progress wifi_dude. been keping an eye on the website and it's still under constuction. still interested tho, so be sure to keep us all updated, there are one or two others in pmb keeping their eyes on it too, so don't give up hope 
Hi all,
Unfortunately the sectors proved to be underpowered to reach the section of town we were planning on getting, so we are now in the process of putting together funds for 2x 18db Flat panels.
We are still trying to aquire additional highsites throughout town, but have proved quite rediculous. A single person wanted R10000/m to put up 2x Sectors in the middle of town. It would be PERFECT place to put the sectors, but to warrant the funds, its impossible. Seeing most people don't really care for free, or community effort. Just mere "how much can I make?" attitudes.
We can get a highsite in Eastwood for about R500 per month, so thats an advantage, but the main concern is to get a highsite in worldsview. that would allow most people to get access to the network.
The other problem we are having is backbone links. We are just waiting for Uniterm to get the new WRT55AG units in, so that we can set all our backbone links to 5.8GHz.
It basically comes down to funding at this moment, as we need to fork out for the equipment we'll put up. End of the month is coming up so we'll be reviewing the budget again.
For those keeping an eye out, drop me an email so I can add you to the list.
As for the website, sorry, theres nothing interesting developing just yet. The only cool thing at the moment is the PAWUG firmware that is based on OpenWRT. Once a kit is connected to a SSID, it acquires an IP address via DHCP on the main network (which is a /21 subnet) and then it broadcasts using OLSR what IP address(es) are on its ethernet port (being a /30, /29, /28, /27, /26, /25, /24 and so on) to all other OLSR units and basically establishes a multitude of routes to the new node. The DHCP concept allows people with straight bridges (like SENAO) to also connect without purchasing additional equipment.
the other thing we have been doing is encouraging people that want to connect to setup their own private WUG for surrounding people and once PAWUG has coverage, all that is needed is an uplink to PAWUG highsites.
Will keep you guys posted.
Thanks
Unfortunately the sectors proved to be underpowered to reach the section of town we were planning on getting, so we are now in the process of putting together funds for 2x 18db Flat panels.
We are still trying to aquire additional highsites throughout town, but have proved quite rediculous. A single person wanted R10000/m to put up 2x Sectors in the middle of town. It would be PERFECT place to put the sectors, but to warrant the funds, its impossible. Seeing most people don't really care for free, or community effort. Just mere "how much can I make?" attitudes.
We can get a highsite in Eastwood for about R500 per month, so thats an advantage, but the main concern is to get a highsite in worldsview. that would allow most people to get access to the network.
The other problem we are having is backbone links. We are just waiting for Uniterm to get the new WRT55AG units in, so that we can set all our backbone links to 5.8GHz.
It basically comes down to funding at this moment, as we need to fork out for the equipment we'll put up. End of the month is coming up so we'll be reviewing the budget again.
For those keeping an eye out, drop me an email so I can add you to the list.
As for the website, sorry, theres nothing interesting developing just yet. The only cool thing at the moment is the PAWUG firmware that is based on OpenWRT. Once a kit is connected to a SSID, it acquires an IP address via DHCP on the main network (which is a /21 subnet) and then it broadcasts using OLSR what IP address(es) are on its ethernet port (being a /30, /29, /28, /27, /26, /25, /24 and so on) to all other OLSR units and basically establishes a multitude of routes to the new node. The DHCP concept allows people with straight bridges (like SENAO) to also connect without purchasing additional equipment.
the other thing we have been doing is encouraging people that want to connect to setup their own private WUG for surrounding people and once PAWUG has coverage, all that is needed is an uplink to PAWUG highsites.
Will keep you guys posted.
Thanks
Hey everyone,
Just thought I'd give you all notice, PAWUG is moving ahead. We have got pricing for the highsite that should cover most of PMB, or atleast about 80% of PMB, so things are moving forth.
I'm down in PMB again around the 16/17th of this month, and hope to have completed the deals, signed the contracts and setup the equipment by the 20th or so of December.
Thanks again
Just thought I'd give you all notice, PAWUG is moving ahead. We have got pricing for the highsite that should cover most of PMB, or atleast about 80% of PMB, so things are moving forth.
I'm down in PMB again around the 16/17th of this month, and hope to have completed the deals, signed the contracts and setup the equipment by the 20th or so of December.
Thanks again
Seems like this wifi mesh project belly uped before it even began. If there is enough interrest in this project still I dont mind getting my hands dirty to find us some high points and getting this going again.
This can be done in combantion with some other projects like Pledge www.pleg.co.za, I know quiet a few guys around PMB that will be able to assist however I would hate to start this project on limited Interest...
So by a Show of hands Please mail me wifi@megalan.co.za should you be interested in participating in this.
^^WormY^^
This can be done in combantion with some other projects like Pledge www.pleg.co.za, I know quiet a few guys around PMB that will be able to assist however I would hate to start this project on limited Interest...
So by a Show of hands Please mail me wifi@megalan.co.za should you be interested in participating in this.
^^WormY^^Its unlikely that ICASA got him, there are a enough wisps running around pietermaritzburg who are still alive (although not brilliant) He does have contact details on his domain registration, though i'd hesitate to contact him. If he isnt responding to emails, its unlikely he will like a voice call. It would just be a pity if we lost the existing infrastructure.
If I can be of any help, as far as this indaba goes, just yell
Brad
If I can be of any help, as far as this indaba goes, just yell
Brad
Hi
AS far as i know from the last time i spooke to WIFI_dude he is now in JHB and dont think he will be heading home anytime soon.... So on that note i think PMB will need to kick off a fresh... So once again I ask is there any guys interested I am more than willing to assist however way i can...
Many Thanks
WormY
AS far as i know from the last time i spooke to WIFI_dude he is now in JHB and dont think he will be heading home anytime soon.... So on that note i think PMB will need to kick off a fresh...
So once again I ask is there any guys interested I am more than willing to assist however way i can... Many Thanks
WormYWell... That would be why he isn´t responding to his mail.
I just bought a wrt54g router and wanted to try connect.
I´m in the Pelham area behind Girls high.... Any one around me with a router? I´m not in the best possition
I´m going to try make a yagi or parabolic ant.
I just need some technical advice
I just bought a wrt54g router and wanted to try connect.
I´m in the Pelham area behind Girls high.... Any one around me with a router? I´m not in the best possition
I´m going to try make a yagi or parabolic ant.
I just need some technical advice
re
Hi Guys
Great to see some interest finally.. Well From what i know the kit that went up came down.... Listen I will do my best to get a highsite up for testing as soon as possible but I am getting married in 16 days time then away for another 2 weeks. So if there is no real sense of urgency that will be awesome. Yagi's do work well.... Maybe try scan the area with the current dipole and see what u pick up... U should get gwi-davis..? if u can find that then the rest is easy..
http://www.miro.co.za/v2.1/frames/product.php?product=201
Many Thanks for your interest
Wayne
Hi Guys
Great to see some interest finally.. Well From what i know the kit that went up came down.... Listen I will do my best to get a highsite up for testing as soon as possible but I am getting married in 16 days time then away for another 2 weeks. So if there is no real sense of urgency that will be awesome. Yagi's do work well.... Maybe try scan the area with the current dipole and see what u pick up... U should get gwi-davis..? if u can find that then the rest is easy..
http://www.miro.co.za/v2.1/frames/product.php?product=201
Many Thanks for your interest
Wayne
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Wug?!
I will be moving to the Pelham area soon as well, right opposite PMB Girls High in Alexandra road.
We are in the process of setting a huge wireless network in PMB with a couple of feeds to DBN, Howick and surrounding areas with Alvarion VL and BreezeNET B 108MB and SDH backhauls and MPLS cores done with Juniper routers. We have ordered equipment and our ICASA stuff is almost finallised
Perhaps I can offer our network, pending on bandwidth, for use once we up and running? However, the Alvarion stuff is all 5.4GHz - 5.8GHz stuff and at +/- R 6,400.00 a CPE and R 60 000+ for a backhaul I think it might be out of reach for most. It might be usefull for backhaulling a WUG though. One of the additional services we are looking at is maybe to provide Internet services over it and I know that I have to apply for a VANS licence as well. We are using Alvarion equipment because of Toll quality VOIP and advanced NLOS capabilities. I have already started to look sourcing bandwidth, but holy ****, it freaking expensive here in SA. I have been overseas for a while and can't believe we are still paying through our asses for bandwidth. Any ideas for an acceptable contention ratio for a line? I am looking at starting with a one meg line with one meg guaranteed international bandwidth and scale according to that. Please bear in mind that I didn't budget on providing internet nor planned it and it will be coming from my pocket, ideas from you people will be great.
Should you feel you can help or have an idea please post.
I will be moving to the Pelham area soon as well, right opposite PMB Girls High in Alexandra road.
We are in the process of setting a huge wireless network in PMB with a couple of feeds to DBN, Howick and surrounding areas with Alvarion VL and BreezeNET B 108MB and SDH backhauls and MPLS cores done with Juniper routers. We have ordered equipment and our ICASA stuff is almost finallised
Perhaps I can offer our network, pending on bandwidth, for use once we up and running? However, the Alvarion stuff is all 5.4GHz - 5.8GHz stuff and at +/- R 6,400.00 a CPE and R 60 000+ for a backhaul I think it might be out of reach for most. It might be usefull for backhaulling a WUG though. One of the additional services we are looking at is maybe to provide Internet services over it and I know that I have to apply for a VANS licence as well. We are using Alvarion equipment because of Toll quality VOIP and advanced NLOS capabilities. I have already started to look sourcing bandwidth, but holy ****, it freaking expensive here in SA. I have been overseas for a while and can't believe we are still paying through our asses for bandwidth. Any ideas for an acceptable contention ratio for a line? I am looking at starting with a one meg line with one meg guaranteed international bandwidth and scale according to that. Please bear in mind that I didn't budget on providing internet nor planned it and it will be coming from my pocket, ideas from you people will be great.
Should you feel you can help or have an idea please post.