Police needs software help with crime fighting

maybe they scared they will get caught themselves?
 
Drake2007 said:
Cool post captainwifi, any software that is open source in that?
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Nope, there are multiple patents holding this stuff hostage. Just like with Free space optics. See http://scratchpad.wikia.com/wiki/FrontingCompany on how we can infringe the patents and why it is the moral thing to do. And why we can get away with this in a country like South Africa where patent infringement is a civil issue, not criminal. Take the datadot idea where cars are sprayed with dots you can't remove. There is a patent on it and the patent holder is extorting money out of any commercial venture. Thus we must go "underground" and datadot our stuff. It

You can't own an idea. Violating someone's copyright is no more "theft" than violating their right-of-way is. Not all rights are property rights.
 
You can own an idea wifybabycakes... Its called intellectual property.

I don't know how up to date you are on the law, but it is something thats been around for awhile. A company has spent LOTS of money developing the idea.. therefore their method is protectable by LAW if they so choose.
 
ToxicBunny said:
A company has spent LOTS of money developing the idea.. therefore their method is protectable by LAW if they so choose.
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Patents have become a load of BS. These days you can patent anything and you don't even need a working example, you can even patent prior art. It is seriously retarting innovation and artificially inflating prices of goods.

If you want a patent you should prove their is no prior art.
No patents for software and ideas like business methods etc
Patent should only last max 10yrs
Copyright should only last 15yrs

The only people benefiting from patents & copyright are big $$$ corporates.
 
ponder : I agree the system is a mess.. there is no doubt about it...

But if I as a company spend millions on a method for facial recognition, surely I should be able to protect it for a period of time to get some profit from it?

wifybabycakes tries to get someone else to break the currently standing law.... and just glosses over the fact that such a law is in place...
 
ToxicBunny said:
ponder : I agree the system is a mess.. there is no doubt about it...

But if I as a company spend millions on a method for facial recognition, surely I should be able to protect it for a period of time to get some profit from it?

wifybabycakes tries to get someone else to break the currently standing law.... and just glosses over the fact that such a law is in place...
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[TOP]Patents

I believe you work for a legal firm? Legal firms would obviously not want the patent/copyright extortion racket to cease functioning. There is no such concept as "intellectual property" anywhere in the Bible. If something really belongs to you then how can a government official decide it only remains yours for 20 years? Lets take the first person who invented the wheel, it was his idea. Lets say it cost him three paw-paws and one tiger skin to perfect. He and five tribal wizards form a government and decree that henceforth he and his offspring must be paid for eternity royalties. So lets say half the planet are not his offspring, this half then has to pay the other half?

As I posted elsewhere the patents on laser FSO is keeping a key technology out of SA hands leading to a huge crime wave and entrenching the Telco money making machines.

http://www.gridlockeconomy.com/
Patents are stifling innovation. Heller's main thesis is that too much ownership can work to 'gridlock' economic progress, investment and innovation. This is explored in how granting too large a bundle of rights for patents has hobbled many high-technology, biotechnology and pharmaceutical development efforts, threatening U.S. prosperity and consumer well-being.
 
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I work for a legal firm?

How did you come to that gem of a conclusion?.. because I keep bashing you about trying to get someone to break the law for you? Who cares if the bible doesn't have a concept of "intellectual property"? We do, and its part of the Law... accept it, and please stop trying to get people to break the law for you.
 
Holy mother of Willy Wonker land - this is priceless. I don't mean to interrupt cap'n, please do continue with your bedtime story...:D
 
ToxicBunny said:
But if I as a company spend millions on a method for facial recognition, surely I should be able to protect it for a period of time to get some profit from it?
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It doesn't matter what you spent to develop an idea, you can't own an idea. Most patents are being used to extort money out of companies by forcing them to pay licensing fees to avoid litigation. This is what IBM is doing with its 10 000 patents.

Linux would not have existed if they had to pay patent royalties and linux crucial to the world economy and distribution of data (Google uses Linux for their server farms).
 
Nice to see that you can't do simple investigations wifybabycakes

Since 1996, IBM has invested approximately $5 billion per year in research, development and engineering. IBM's current active portfolio of about 26,000 patents in the United States and over 40,000 patents worldwide for inventions in areas of primary technology focus for all IBM customers, is a direct result of that investment.
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So you're trying to suggest IBM shouldn't be able to recoup some of the $5bn p/a investment?

As for not being able to "OWN" an idea..... I can own an idea... its the law.. deal with it.
 
Considering the SAPS is only starting to phase out the 100 year old paper docket system, I don't see this going very far I'm afraid :(
 
Let's fight crime! But first, captainwifi needs to pirate some software before we get started.
 
ToxicBunny said:
But if I as a company spend millions on a method for facial recognition, surely I should be able to protect it for a period of time to get some profit from it?
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Fair enough but within bounds. The current scenario is plainly rediculous.

ponder said:
If you want a patent you should prove their is no prior art.
No patents for software and ideas like business methods etc
Patent should only last max 10yrs
Copyright should only last 15yrs
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