Pre Paid Data Bundles [PPDBs]

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I use VM at home and in my case it simply is the fastest (well most of the time anyway) - CellC / VM have EDGE coverage, Vodacom and MTN only have GPRS..
BUT, I have been informed by MTN (after I queried their EDGE status) that my location is due for a 3G/HSDPA upgrade before april next year!

And then? I'll probably switch to MTN - even at the discomfit of having to buy data bundles :eek:

Indeed I'm actually right now connected via Vodacom HSDPA, being away from home where I actually have coverage... and yea, I'm paying R2 / MB :eek:
I guess I just have to have speed where I can get it :eek:
 
I know circumstances differ, but it still amazes me that consumers complain about prices being too high and then don't take cheaper options when it is offered to them.
I think that R2 per mb is too much and I'll complain a little but I want 3G/HSDPA and thats that. I don't see number portability changing the data side of things much as most people do not use their primary sim for data functions. Stats show that a second sim is usually purchased for this. This means that the majority of data users don't feel locked in to a service provider as they do not mind relinquishing their data sim phone number as it holds no vlaue to them.

Remember that Vodacom also has the option to charge a different rate for gprs/edge? but chooses not to do so and thereby makes a comparison with 3G as to value.
I imagine that chargning difference amount would kill the billing system as GPRS,EDGE and 3G switch between each other seamlessly and trying to change charge rates as coverage changes would be a nightmare.

I think that this issue needs to be addressed. GPRS should not costs the same as HSDPA. When I download at 1.2Mb/s and some poor bugger downloads at 15Kbp/s and we both pay the same R2 then something just isn't right.

Virgin/Cell-C seems to have the most edge coverage
Judging by coverage maps they seem to have the lowest EDGE coverage out of the 3 service providers but they are a younger company so it shouldn't come as a surprise. Their EDGE coverage is focused on the major city's and CDB's by the looks of things.

It really doesn't, we are enough people who don't mind putting up with a slower connection which really isn't slower than Vodacom's gprs/edge? offering to show them that the extra expense really isn't worth it for most of us and in the end it could only benefit everyone including you.
I appreciate your selflessness despite me paying my R2/Mb to the dark side,but I don't think consumers are going to teach big corporates a lesson by having a small vodacom data exodus.

I read that somthing like 10% of cell phone subscibers(across all providers in SA) use data services. Clearly data services are not the money spinners in the cellular world and I doubt are going to be able to twist the arms of big corporates.

I dont really want to argue with you because at the core I agree with you. I want reasonably prices bandwidth that is nice and fast with no hassles too.

Why don't we let the dancing meerkat entertain us and distract us from our concerns.
 
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I don't get why everyone keeps ragging on Virgin. Sure they have a few startup problems, but certainly not more than Vodacom are still having and they are suppose to be well into the game by now. For the price they charge I expect them to provide a near perfect service instead of a best effort one. People should start raking them over the coles.

Because, maybe I've been lucky, but I haven't had problems with Vodacom. My phone and sim were delivered within 48 hours, as opposed to waiting weeks for a sim with Virgin with endless problems even once I'd gotten it. Its fine now but was a major mission before. And whenever I've tried to use it their internet service has been up, haven't gotten errors because it was "down" like I frequently have on Virgin. So at the moment I use both Virgin and Voda for data and Voda for my primary voice phone. Works fine for me, but personally I have experienced better service and reliability from Vodacom which to me justifies the extra expense. As people have said, its a personal choice.
 
I imagine that chargning difference amount would kill the billing system as GPRS,EDGE and 3G switch between each other seamlessly and trying to change charge rates as coverage changes would be a nightmare.

I think that this issue needs to be addressed. GPRS should not costs the same as HSDPA. When I download at 1.2Mb/s and some poor bugger downloads at 15Kbp/s and we both pay the same R2 then something just isn't right.
Not necessarily. GSM and UMTS are two completely different networks. To charge different rates for different networks is probably not very difficult although I suspect Vodacom would disagree with this as it took them 1.5 years to get the ppdb system in place. Almost all phones have the ability to manually switch to GSM and dual mode, so a person can choose to only use the lower data rate and I don't think anyone would complain if they suddenly get charged less when they get switched over to GSM.

15kbps? That would be a blessing from Vodacom. The speed's are more like 5kbps under load and 15kbps peak when nobody is using it like after 10pm.
Judging by coverage maps they seem to have the lowest EDGE coverage out of the 3 service providers but they are a younger company so it shouldn't come as a surprise. Their EDGE coverage is focused on the major city's and CDB's by the looks of things.
Vodacom coverage mainly in North West, Free State, Eastern and Western Cape, none in Gauteng.
MTN coverage very patchy and also not in Gauteng
Cell-C coverage mainly in Gauteng, Natal, and the Cape.
I think Cell-C has more people covered by edge than Vodacom and MTN. It doesn't help much for Vodacom to have edge coverage where there are the least amount of people. This seems contradictory to rolling the service out where there is the greatest demand for it.
I appreciate your selflessness despite me paying my R2/Mb to the dark side,but I don't think consumers are going to teach big corporates a lesson by having a small vodacom data exodus.

I read that somthing like 10% of cell phone subscibers(across all providers in SA) use data services. Clearly data services are not the money spinners in the cellular world and I doubt are going to be able to twist the arms of big corporates.
It is my understanding that a lot of people are moving over to Virgin especially from Vodacom since they don't offer them bundles. If this does not convince Vodacom to drop rates then competition means absolutely nothing and we might as well tell Neotel to pack up and leave.
I dont really want to argue with you because at the core I agree with you. I want reasonably prices bandwidth that is nice and fast with no hassles too.
I don't want to start an argument here as well. I am only driving my point home that having a slightly higher speed with Vodacom on 3G only does not justify the enormous extra expense. You might have R1200 to spare every month for data usage, but I don't.
Why don't we let the dancing meerkat entertain us and distract us from our concerns.
LOL. I think his time has come and gone. Can't touch this? Well, watch me take out my shotgun. :p
Because, maybe I've been lucky, but I haven't had problems with Vodacom. My phone and sim were delivered within 48 hours, as opposed to waiting weeks for a sim with Virgin with endless problems even once I'd gotten it. Its fine now but was a major mission before. And whenever I've tried to use it their internet service has been up, haven't gotten errors because it was "down" like I frequently have on Virgin. So at the moment I use both Virgin and Voda for data and Voda for my primary voice phone. Works fine for me, but personally I have experienced better service and reliability from Vodacom which to me justifies the extra expense. As people have said, its a personal choice.
Probably just lucky. I experienced data stalls on a daily basis on Vodacom. From the first day on Virgin I had a rather smooth ride. Only now my connection is starting to slow down during the day. Probably did too good a job with the conversion. Will see what happens when they upgrade their infrastructure which they are probably already doing hence the connection problems. If you haven't experienced any downtime on Vodacom then you haven't tried to connect at night cause it was down very frequently. It's a pity the debacle with the sim cards happened, but that's just one of the things that happens with a new entrant.
 
LOL. I think his time has come and gone. Can't touch this? Well, watch me take out my shotgun.
I've got bad news for you. he has been such a marketing success that I don't think we'll be rid of him for quite some time.

15kbps? That would be a blessing from Vodacom. The speed's are more like 5kbps under load and 15kbps peak when nobody is using it like after 10pm.
That IS pretty pathetic!

I hope Vodacom sorts all of this out and everything becomes well priced and amazingly efficient and then we can just all say good things on the forum. Unlikely though...
 
If you haven't experienced any downtime on Vodacom then you haven't tried to connect at night cause it was down very frequently. It's a pity the debacle with the sim cards happened, but that's just one of the things that happens with a new entrant.

I have actually, but maybe I'm in a different area etc., who knows.
 
I really don't get why everyone's still asking for data bungles when they can pay 50c/MB. :confused: :confused: :confused:
 
You know the schlepp it is to change SIM cards?

Some of us need to keep our numbers as well as have decently priced data.
Actually I do, I use my phone to connect and pop my Vodacom sim into my old phone. When I go out I change them. Still there are people who don't have this switching problem who are using bundles or paying R2/MB instead. If you don't use much data during the month it's obviously not going to make much difference whether you use a bundle or not, but for large amounts why not go through a little more hassle or get a datacard/modem and save even more than with a bundle. I will not be forced to use a certain amount to pay a lower rate or pay R2/MB after using it up.
 
Seems ok the last week or so. And for all the MTN lovers ;) in this thread, I just managed to rack up 53.2MB an hour or so ago with my last R15.06 on Virgin before my balance was zero and it went dead. Funny thing is, when I disconnected it was over R1 again and it's still going now. :p
 
Seems ok the last week or so. And for all the MTN lovers ;) in this thread, I just managed to rack up 53.2MB an hour or so ago with my last R15.06 on Virgin before my balance was zero and it went dead. Funny thing is, when I disconnected it was over R1 again and it's still going now. :p

:eek: You lucky...:D Are you using GPRS or EGDE? What phone are you using?
 
Well sometimes when u use your sim for data and calls, some calls dont come through when you are connected to data. Thus it makes it a better option to use 2 sim cards. one for data and one for other uses... thus 2 phones. Thus, no problems as you dont need to keep your data number... u can change it whenever you like
 
Seems ok the last week or so. And for all the MTN lovers ;) in this thread, I just managed to rack up 53.2MB an hour or so ago with my last R15.06 on Virgin before my balance was zero and it went dead. Funny thing is, when I disconnected it was over R1 again and it's still going now. :p

I managed 35MB out of my last R1.73 on my Virgin sim a few weeks ago :p
 
:eek: You lucky...:D Are you using GPRS or EGDE? What phone are you using?
Edge I think on a Nokia 6680. I don't think luck has anything to do with it, just keep your airtime low. Managed 57.34MB with that 15.06 just now. This makes Virgin even cheaper than Vodacom's 1024MB @ R399. Bottomless data...
Vodacom have 3G/HSDPA, Virgin/Cell-C don't.
And you're willing to pay 4 times as much for that...
 
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