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Dit is inderdaad Pretoria en nié Tshwane nie.

Die Uitsaaiklagtekommissie van Suid-Afrika (UKKSA) het gister beslis die SAUK oortree sy uitsaaikode deur in sy TV-nuus na Tshwane te verwys.

Al het die kommissie nie die SAUK gestraf nie, kan hy swaar beboet word as hy die uitspraak ignoreer.

Die UKKSA het verlede maand ’n verhoor gehou nadat die burgerregte-waghond AfriForum ’n klagte daaroor ingedien het.

Mnr. Kallie Kriel, AfriForum se uitvoerende hoof, het gesê die uitspraak is ’n oorwinning vir die ondersteuners van Pretoria se naam én almal wat wedersydse erkenning en respek tussen gemeenskappe wil bevorder.

AfriForum het tydens die verhoor aangevoer dit is onprakties en onbillik om die naam Tshwane, wat ’n metroraad s’n is, saam met ander dorpe en stede s’n te gebruik.

Kriel het daarop gewys dat die SAUK in nuusbulletins die naam Tshwane, wat ’n munisipaliteit s’n is, saam met die name van ander stede soos Port Elizabeth en Durban gebruik.

Dié stede se munisipale name is onderskeidelik die Nelson Mandela-metropool en eThekwini.

Mnr. Fakir Hassen, bestuurder van uitsaainakoming en -beleid by die SAUK, het ter verdediging gesê die presidensie is “inderdaad” in Tshwane en nie in Pretoria nie, “wat nou per definisie ’n woonbuurt in Tshwane is”.

Die UKKSA het in sy uitspraak gesê hy moes eers probeer vasstel wat die hoofstad se naam is. Die Raad vir Suid-Afrikaanse Geografiese Name se databasis het gewys Tshwane is nie as ’n pleknaam geregistreer nie, maar Pretoria wel.

Daar word ook verwys na ’n besluit wat die Tshwane-metroraad in Maart 2005 geneem het om die “City of Tshwane” as ’n geografiese pleknaam te registreer.

“Dié besluit bewys die metroraad was daarvan bewus dat die naam Tshwane geregistreer moet word voordat dit as die stad se naam gebruik kon word.

“Volgens alle inligting het die minister van kuns en kultuur nog nooit die naamsverandering na Tshwane goedgekeur nie,” het die UKKSA in sy uitspraak gesê.

Hassen het in die verhoor ontken die SAUK mislei sy kykers doelbewus deur na Tshwane te verwys.

Die UKKSA het egter bevind die uitsaaier oortree sy kode “met onwaarhede deur voor te gee Tshwane is as ’n geografiese pleknaam geregistreer”.

“Ons dink dus Hassen is verkeerd as hy sê die presidensie is in Tshwane en nie Pretoria nie.”

Die UKKSA het beslis die SAUK oortree art. 34.1 van die uitsaaikode “omdat hy geen regsgronde het om tussen Pretoria en ander stede te onderskei nie
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Glad to see the SABC is now forced to call it Pretoria and no longer Tshwane.
Going forward if they refer to Pretoria as Tshwane massive fines will be imposed.

Pretoria jou doring :p
 
I am glad that it has been kept as PTA!

Name change money = Less for housing!
 
grayston said:
Yeah, suck it, darkies...</sarcasm>
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Unfortunately there is too many people who think like you in SA :rolleyes:

It has nothing to do with race, Pretoria is part of the Afrikaans heritage, named after a famous Afrikaans fighter called Andries Pretorius. England vs South Africa (Boerwar/Boere oorlog)

It has fk all to do with Black vs White
 
I think this only applies to TV news.
The sotho radio stations have always referred to it as Tshwane since time immemorial.
Much like Durban is called eThekwini by most Zulu speakers.
 
Pitbull said:
Unfortunately there is too many people who think like you in SA :rolleyes:

It has nothing to do with race, Pretoria is part of the Afrikaans heritage, named after a famous Afrikaans fighter called Andries Pretorius. England vs South Africa (Boerwar/Boere oorlog)

It has fk all to do with Black vs White
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LOL... while I don't appreciate the "darkies" insult, we all know exactly what is going on. There are some in the Halls of power on Pretoria who would love to take the name "Pretoria" away from those who love that name. And their first language is not English or Afrikaans. This is a VERY black/white issue.
 
Im kinda hoping it keeps the name Pretoria. Its very symbolic of a lot.
 
Garyvdh said:
LOL... while I don't appreciate the "darkies" insult, we all know exactly what is going on. There are some in the Halls of power on Pretoria who would love to take the name "Pretoria" away from those who love that name. And their first language is not English or Afrikaans. This is a VERY black/white issue.
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I agree the forces behind the motivation of removing it is racial. The defense for the name to remain however is not. It's a victory for Afrikaans people as their heritage stays in place. They are not defending it to show the ANC or anyone else the middle finger.

Sorry if my post was misunderstood.
 
both Tshwane and Pretoria is bad rather rename it to Mos Isley; would go good with
You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. :D
 
The SABC will just prove that make their own decisions, so they will now start to use eThikweni etc for the other municipalities too. That would make their naming consistent and they will still use Tshwane.
 
gifs said:
The SABC will just prove that make their own decisions, so they will now start to use eThikweni etc for the other municipalities too. That would make their naming consistent and they will still use Tshwane.
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I don't think it's that easy. They where found guilty of not giving news that is accurate and fair. Now even if they call all the other place by their metro names, it's still not accurate as the actual town/city has a name.

It's very technical but that is how I see this ruling. Might be wrong though and you could be 100% on the money.
 
gifs said:
The SABC will just prove that make their own decisions, so they will now start to use eThikweni etc for the other municipalities too. That would make their naming consistent and they will still use Tshwane.
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Then they will be fined and atm I am sure they can not afford it :p
 
Pitbull said:
I agree the forces behind the motivation of removing it is racial. The defense for the name to remain however is not. It's a victory for Afrikaans people as their heritage stays in place. They are not defending it to show the ANC or anyone else the middle finger.

Sorry if my post was misunderstood.
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Unfortunately, it's always going to look that way. Just as any attempt by the ANC to change the name will look like they're giving Afrikaners the middle finger. Thanks, ANC. Talk about divisive tactics...

Both Pretoria AND Tshwane as names have become completely inappropriate. The only way to solve this now is to pick a new name.

I'm not a great fan of naming things after people, and I wouldn't mind living in "Jacaranda City" for example. Just a thought.
 
Pitbull said:
I don't think it's that easy. They where found guilty of not giving news that is accurate and fair. Now even if they call all the other place by their metro names, it's still not accurate as the actual town/city has a name.

It's very technical but that is how I see this ruling. Might be wrong though and you could be 100% on the money.
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That is what someone working at the SABC told me. Whether it will stand up I don't know.
 
Pitbull said:
I agree the forces behind the motivation of removing it is racial. The defense for the name to remain however is not. It's a victory for Afrikaans people as their heritage stays in place. They are not defending it to show the ANC or anyone else the middle finger.

Sorry if my post was misunderstood.
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Ah, I see. clarified, thanks.
 
Die Raad vir Suid-Afrikaanse Geografiese Name se databasis het gewys Tshwane is nie as ’n pleknaam geregistreer nie, maar Pretoria wel.
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LOL!

Deciding on a name change is easy but to actually do some "wok" is the hard part for our government employee's
 
Pitbull said:
Unfortunately there is too many people who think like you in SA :rolleyes:

It has nothing to do with race, Pretoria is part of the Afrikaans heritage, named after a famous Afrikaans fighter called Andries Pretorius. England vs South Africa (Boerwar/Boere oorlog)

It has fk all to do with Black vs White
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Maybe not black or white but most certainly anc vs afrikaners. The name Pretoria has historical/cultural significance for afrikaners and the change was meant as a lesson to afrikaners.

Why not change Joburg's name?

But I think no political person should have anything named after them. That way a name won't change everytime the government does. An adress is meant to be permanent not something that can be changed willingly.

Some names may offend but changing HF Verwoerd to Nelson Mandela (example)could very well offend others again. So rather name an institution/street/whatever after trees or birds or the likewise.:D
 
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