Prostate cancer

FiestaST said:
Stupid q but no need to book a GP appointment in advance to request etc?
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No need to go to GP. They said if I went to GP I could put it on medical aid but otherwise it’s pay up yourself. And tbf at R268 it’s a lot cheaper than the GP and also the medical aid deduction from your savings.
 
Willie Trombone said:
You shouldn't have to. The results come with margins for your age group so you can see if it's above or below.
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PSA is prostate specific.

Generally when you do an annual screening, you'll want to cover checks for all illnesses that may be higher risk depending on your age, weight, ethnicity and family history. As well as other cancers in general...
 
porchrat said:
Prostate cancer incidence has been rising in black South Africans for the last few decades. Last I checked we still don't know why. Mycotoxins in poorly stored food in rural areas was one hypothesis. Don't know how true it is.
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More access to medical care and better reporting perhaps part of that?
 
Willie Trombone said:
Sounds feasable. The supply chain in SA is not healthy for the poor. That said, it's the same for the US african american population (more aggressive cancers).
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Some things are just higher risk in certain ethnicities due to various factors. Diabetes and heart disease in Indian people, skin cancers in white people etc.
 
Just do the test from a young age. The earlier the cancer is detected, the better the chance of treatment.

I have prostate cancer since 2017, unfortunately I am not a candidate for the DaVinci operation as my lung functions are too low to survive the operation. I am on the hormone treatment to keep the PSA reading under control,
and have a PSA test every 3 months and on average a hormone injection after every third test.
 
ghaye said:
More access to medical care and better reporting perhaps part of that?
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More access to medical care?... where have you been for the last 20 years or so?

I can understand that maybe having been an explanation in the late 90s early 2000s... but after that I can't believe access to medical care has actually increased. There's a hiring freeze on doctors now for crying out loud.
 
porchrat said:
More access to medical care?... where have you been for the last 20 years or so?

I can understand that maybe having been an explanation in the late 90s early 2000s... but after that I can't believe access to medical care has actually increased. There's a hiring freeze on doctors now for crying out loud.
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It was only a question. I don't work in the field so don't know. One would have thought democracy would have brought some benefits.
 
RedViking said:
Stupid comment of that day.
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Lol yeah sure…
urology.co.za

4 Facts About Biking and the Prostate - Urology Hospital

They may leave little to the imagination, but no, your bike shorts do not represent a high risk to your urological health. Still, some men may be concerned about the effects of cycling on their prostate health, due to research that has associated prostate issues with heavy cycling. A 2017 report...
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A 2017 report shared in Cycling Weekly, for example, determined a higher rate of prostate cancer among men who trained at least eight hours a week, compared with those who trained less than 3.75 hours.
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SeRpEnT said:
Or just Google the average safe PSA score for your age group.
But PSA scores go up as you age.

Apparently most men will eventually get prostate cancer in some form...but the difference is that it's not always terminal.
My grandfather passed away at 86 from his heart and the doctor said that he had some prostate cancer but not advanced. Said that most men he see at those age has some prostrate problems and many cancerous but not always terminal. Hectic.
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80 years just have it removed. Is it a hectic op?
 
ghaye said:
It was only a question. I don't work in the field so don't know. One would have thought democracy would have brought some benefits.
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Didn't mean to sound aggressive. Just found the idea of medical access improving over the last say 15 years so outlandish.

Democracy surely did bring benefits in the early years. Last couple of decades though public medical facilities and staff fell off the wagon totally. We're now literally at the point where the State can't afford to hire any more doctors.

Despite this collapse we're still seeing higher incidences of prostate cancer in black Saffers relative to other races. Still nobody really knows why. I don't get why there isn't more effort being put into it. 1 in 8 men worldwide get prostate cancer. That's just nuts.
 
Spizz said:
And there we go. Popped into Pathcare, R268 later and I get the results tomorrow.

Get it done kids. You know it makes sense.
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You know you have to restrain for any from any sexual activity for at least 48h beforehand? There is a good chance that it will show an increased PSA level otherwise.
 
Scooby_Doo said:
Well if you pass even without abstaining, you are golden.
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Yes, but if not, you have to go and redo it anyway. Its just a waste that doctors don't tell people that. If you go for a cholesterol test, they ask you before before they draw blood if you are fasted. Why not the same for PSA?
 
ShaunSA said:
PSA test done annually
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Yeah i do a PSA annually too.

Doesn't pick up for other cancers but there's things like inflammation they can look for too i guess. But yeah prostate is an important one to check.

Interestingly, read an article that although still rare, its occurring in men below 40 too.
 
Willie Trombone said:
prostatecanceruk.org

You don’t need a ‘finger up the bum’ to diagnose prostate cancer - but around half of men think you do!

A ‘finger up the bum’ is not a useful test for prostate cancer, yet around half of men who haven’t checked their risk of the disease still think they’d need a rectal exam to get tested.
prostatecanceruk.org prostatecanceruk.org

My doc has some explaining to do!
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In other news on the same website routine PSA testing is bad....
"results showing that using PSA blood testing to screen for prostate cancer can slightly reduce the risk of men dying from the disease (meaning 1 in 1000 fewer men die from the disease), but may miss aggressive cancers in some men, and over diagnose the disease in others.
The results are important. They reinforce the evidence from another large, long-term screening trial that came to the same overall conclusion. That trial was the basis for our view that PSA blood testing does reduce deaths from prostate cancer, but also has the potential to cause harm to a large number of men and misses too many significant cancers. "

prostatecanceruk.org

PSA screening reduced deaths can miss aggressive cancer

We're striving for a world where no man dies of prostate cancer - and giving every man the power to navigate this complex disease. We're standing together to support our dads, brothers, partners and friends - by raising awareness, funding lifesaving research, campaigning for change and providing...
prostatecanceruk.org prostatecanceruk.org
 
Since age of forty eight, head down to the Cape once a year to see my Urologist, finger test and psa…

Oddly enough just realized I never went this year…

Will get PSA done at local lab and hit the Cape in January…

Reason I go?, mum died at 49 from Cancer…
 
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