Prostitution: Yes or No

[wrathex]

Morals aside, how does prostitution benefit society ?

- It does not, never will and never has.

The arguement put forward:
But it has always existed.

- Just like murder, theft, rape & abuse

Whorehouses are cesspools of disease, anguish and economic desperation.

The young whore today, smiles when she/he shows off her/his designer clothes, shades and expensive perfumes, but soon the youth and greed turns into anguish and desperation to get out of 'the trade'.

It's not about making a natural phenomena like sex a crime, it's a crime to make a natural phenomena like sex an economic commodity of which the benefits are reaped by a minority in society but which also causes extreme anguish to an innocent minority ie: the lifepartner/ divorce , broken home, broken children, infected innocent partners.

 

[daveza]

Here's an idea. Don't sell your body.

But if you give it away free it's ok - that doesn't make sense.

And what about the guys who are ' buying illegal goods ' ?

 

[Vegeta]

Morals aside, how does prostitution benefit society ?

- It does not, never will and never has.

The arguement put forward:
But it has always existed.

- Just like murder, theft, rape & abuse

Whorehouses are cesspools of disease, anguish and economic desperation.

The young whore today, smiles when she/he shows off her/his designer clothes, shades and expensive perfumes, but soon the youth and greed turns into anguish and desperation to get out of 'the trade'.

It's not about making a natural phenomena like sex a crime, it's a crime to make a natural phenomena like sex an economic commodity of which the benefits are reaped by a minority in society but which also causes extreme anguish to an innocent minority ie: the lifepartner/ divorce , broken home, broken children, infected innocent partners.

+1000 wow that was well said!

 

[koeks]

As I was busy checking what it on TV before I switched it off I saw the E-TV extra on DSTV with Debra speaking to two woman for and against the legalizing of prostitution.

sick joke of the week...

"All women are prostitutes, wives are glorified prostitutes"

but seriously guys these woman just provide what is not there...

sometime women use sex as a form of punishment to men. if you do something good then you are rewarded with some good sex...

 

[cerebus]

yeah wrathex said it well. The reality of prostitution is that it is a sordid, debasing, filthy trade that destroys the lives of women.

Most people who drink alcohol do so on a social, casual basis, and there are laws in place to prevent its abuse. But prostitution does nothing positive for society - it corrupts people, ruins marriages, turns women into drug abusers.

It isn't just a matter of a simple transaction. The reality of the lives of prostitutes - even those in legalized countries like Amsterdam - are that they are trapped into it, often held hostage by their pimps, and the legalizing of the trade means that the government is able to keep its hands clean while this activity is going on.

 

[killadoob]

They need to legalize prostitution and get some sort of system going were they flag people infected and ban them from working in the industry and if found working in the industry they get sentenced to life in prison for attempted murder if infected with aids.

There is no point in this being illegal in my opinion, you can control, regulate and tax it, so it's a win win for all.

 

[Mila]

Govt losing out on plenty much big heap tax by not legalizing it and weed. Kinda Stupid IMHO. If I'm not wrong then it would create a few jobs downstream as well.

Govt should really take a long hard look at legalizing it,

But they can not get the taxi's to register for tax. Why do you think this will be better?

I agree with you on a pure bussiness / logical scale. (Not moral though )

I would just like to see the gouvernment prove they can handle basic thinks, like municipal duties, right before they tackle a big thing like this

+100

I can start a business and make plenty moola by renting out desparate woman

 

[daveza]

yeah wrathex said it well. The reality of prostitution is that it is a sordid, debasing, filthy trade that destroys the lives of women.

Yes it is all of those. Has criminalising it made any difference ?

 

[w1z4rd]

Sex is legal. Money is legal. Sex for money is illegal. Unless theres a camera, because then its porn and okay.

People are nutty.

The criminalization of prostitution is an evil hypocrisy.

 

[Serqet]

So the reason for legalising it is because everyone is doing it and we do it for free usually? Lol that sounds like a really pure excuse.

I think i'm going to go rape, pillage and murder some people today. Everyone else is doing it. Let's make it legal!

 

[w1z4rd]

Something I wrote a while back:

The reason I am writing this is because I want people to understand the hypocrisy and unjustness of criminalizing prostitution.

First lets have a look why it is illegal... I asked around and the only reasons I could seem to find was because it is, "immoral" and "degrading". So basically the reason appears to be religious moral conditions more than any actual real crime or harm being done to either the buyer or the seller.

What society has done by criminalising prostitution has allowed some very vulnerable people to become victims to some of the worst types of abuse. Females and males who work in the industry can be subjected to rape without any type of recourse from the law for fear of being arrested themselves.

So basically, because we are offended by the concept and idea of the type of work someone has chosen to do, we just sit back and allow their hurt and abuse to continue. I'm sorry, you cant take the moral high ground on this one. If you seriously think that we should continue to create victims because of some warped morality code than I cant hold any type of respect for you. You are committing a great crime by allowing these woman to be abused, then by legalizing the industry. Morality should not be legislated!

Now I want to move onto the "degrading" argument that was constantly thrown my way. I emailed and got into contact with a couple of people who work in the industry to get a more balanced view point on the topic, and get their thoughts on the criminalization of prostitution. The responses I got back where professional and interesting and to the letter, not one of them thought their job was degrading.

Most of the people I contacted in fact informed me that they loved their jobs and what they did and a couple even mentioned it was more than about the money. Their point of view seemed to center around the fact that they considered themselves sexually "mature" and did not see any type of sin or evilness with sex.

A couple of the people I spoke to appeared already to be the victims of society with no other resources available to them. One of the ladies explained how her husband had left her with three kids and they were basically starving on the side of the road before she entered the industry. Now she is able to look after herself and her kids, and is putting them all through school.

Another important point we have to look at is the crime associated with prostitution. Yes, there is a pretty large criminal element associated with prostitution but as studies have shown... that element is there because the act of prostitution is criminalized. Because prostitutes are considered to be committing a crime they are unable to use the protective services a lot of society has to offer, and so in turn, have to associate themselves with less savoury characters to get some type of protection from the sicker parts of humanity.

If you legalize it, most of the criminal element should leave with it. This has been shown over and over again when countries like the Netherlands, Germany, Switzerland, New Zealand and even an American and Australian state who have all started the process of legalizing it.

In the state of Nevada where prostitution has been legalized and is regulated, results have shown that the STD rate amongst the prostitutes in that state are lower than those of the general public. Also, because the woman are more educated in safer sex and are protected there has not being a single case of AIDS in the Nevada legalized prostitution industry.

This topic should be very simple for us. You have no right to tell someone else what they can and can not do with their body, and no one has the right to tell you what to do with yours. If you choose to sell your body services off as a toilet janitor, a politician or a prostitute that should be YOUR choice. Whether you are offended by the idea or not, prostitution has and most likely will always have a roll and to play and a part in our society. Even in countries in the Middle East where prostitution is punishable by death it continues. Sex is legal, money is legal, sex for money is illegal... unless its in front of a camera, and its just porn, and then its legal. You cant be serious?

Now we can choose to be hypocrites and allow this abuse to continue in the name of some imaginary moral conviction or you can do the right thing, and help protect these woman by decriminalizing the industry.

In the closing words of Penn & Teller episode on the subject of prostitution, if you think its disgusting and degrading. Don't do it.




People who want to keep it criminalized just want to create victims and are pretty evil.

 

[Mila]

LOLZ!!

I just think that if the government is thinking about making more money through taxes and reducing aids by making this legal they are bigger idiots than i thought they were.

 

[Alan]

But if you give it away free it's ok - that doesn't make sense.

And what about the guys who are ' buying illegal goods ' ?

Yes woman would walk the streets offering sex for free. IMO buyers should also face the consequences

sick joke of the week...

"All women are prostitutes, wives are glorified prostitutes"

but seriously guys these woman just provide what is not there...

sometime women use sex as a form of punishment to men. if you do something good then you are rewarded with some good sex...

Reminds me of an article I read about the rich London city slickers who're now facing a large in increase in divorces because their wives are walking out on them as the money is dries up, thanks to the credit crunch

 

[w1z4rd]

LOLZ!!

I just think that if the government is thinking about making more money through taxes and reducing aids by making this legal they are bigger idiots than i thought they were.

Thanks for that insight

 

[Serqet]

With Africa having the highest rate of AIDS in the world, i think we would be naive to try and compare ourselves to the state of Nevada. They are far more educated about sex in the US. We are battling as a nation to get people to use condoms and practice safe sex. What makes you think prostitutes will suddenly do this because the government says okay it's legal now?

 

[cerebus]

By itself it would be difficult to argue against the legalization of prostitution except on moral grounds - which IMO are sufficient anyway. But it's the fallout of it, how it damages the lives of those involved. If you can't see that the act itself is immoral, you must know the tree by its fruits. Women who become involved in prostitution end up being destroyed. The happy hooker is a myth. It is a trade filled with the worst dregs of humanity who entrap the women and more often than not enslave them to drugs or whatever else.

Criminalising it at least gives the government some grounds to enforce the laws against it. Decriminalising it would only give those who ply the trade - the pimps - an open hand.

 

[w1z4rd]

With Africa having the highest rate of AIDS in the world, i think we would be naive to try and compare ourselves to the state of Nevada. They are far more educated about sex in the US. We are battling as a nation to get people to use condoms and practice safe sex. What makes you think prostitutes will suddenly do this because the government says okay it's legal now?

Emphasis on the word "regulated". Same way you can change the taxi`s, you can change other industries. Change takes time though.

The biggest thing for me is not to create victims. Thats where the morality goes pear shaped.

People are ganna fk for money no matter what you think or say. Regulate it.. control it. manage it as best you can. Simple.

Do you would have to be pretty thick to think the criminalization of the industry slows down HIV/AIDS. The industry will continue at basically its current size with or without it being criminalized.

 

[BTTB]

Mod Note: Poll added.

 

[w1z4rd]

By itself it would be difficult to argue against the legalization of prostitution except on moral grounds - which IMO are sufficient anyway.

Thats some pretty evil morality that you are describing. You would rather a woman got raped and had no recourse with justice?!?!!?!?! Even if she is a prostitute .. you would rather she become a victim because you dont like her industry.. wow. The idea "offends" you so its okay for her to be gang raped because she is a prostitute. (cause thats what happens mate because of your "offended sensibilities").

The crime your morality commits is infinitely more massive than the one the prostitute "does". I would prefer 1000 prossies in the world to 1 person with the kind of morality that would allow someone to suffer like that.

 

[porn$tar]

Legalise it, along with marijuana.

Making it illegal doesn't solve any of the problems associated with it, and just serves to sweep it under the rug, out of the faces of the morally self-righteous.