PS5

[SauRoNZA]

So basically fidelity mode at 60 fps.

When Sony is doing a Digital Foundry video and zooming in on distant details, you know it's a reach...

Yeah the entire thing seemed like a reach.

Like even Cerny was speaking under duress because they made him do it.

 

[AlphaJohn]

So about R17,999 in ZA bucks I reckon.

Plus R3k for the disc drive.

Recon I am happy with my launch day vanilla PS5, might swap it for a slim later, Pro not so much.

 

[DrJohnZoidberg]

I suspect this is going to be low volume and only a very few people are going to be getting it.

Definitely a strange decision by Sony but I'll be getting one for sure.

 

[NR7]

So about R17,999 in ZA bucks I reckon.

Plus R3k for the disc drive.

I did the Koodoo maths earlier because it's far from a simple conversion.
€450 PS5 Digital = R12000 RRP here, R26.66/euro
€550 PS5 Disc = R14000 RRP here, R25.45/euro
€600 PSVR2 = R15500 RRP here, R25.83/euro

So ~R25.45-26.66/euro on non-special pricing.

€800 is the PS5 Pro RRP, so between ~R20360-R21328. Almost insanity, my PS5 Digital cost me R10k about nine months after launch during a pandemic.

 

[prod]

It's £700, so ±R16000 for me. Not bad, I'm quite tempted especially considering PSSR works with the entire library out of the box:

An AI-assisted upscaling mode, called PlayStation Spectral Super Resolution, works across the whole game library without any needed patch, adding in details to upscale to 4K

That might be a game changer, the only thing I'm bummed about is no disc drive included.

 

[DrJohnZoidberg]

I did the Koodoo maths earlier because it's far from a simple conversion.
€450 PS5 Digital = R12000 RRP here, R26.66/euro
€550 PS5 Disc = R14000 RRP here, R25.45/euro
€600 PSVR2 = R15500 RRP here, R25.83/euro

So ~R25.45-26.66/euro on non-special pricing.

€800 is the PS5 Pro RRP, so between ~R20360-R21328. Almost insanity, my PS5 Digital cost me R10k about nine months after launch during a pandemic.

I did a quick calculation based on the USD price though. We won't really know what the local price is until they reveal it, the Rand has strengthened a bit in the last month so we'll see.

 

[Soul Assassin]

Yeah the PSSR is probably the biggest feature of the announcement especially because it runs at the system level, any titles that were struggling to maintain 60FPS will now be 60FPS and games with high frame rate modes like Ragnarok where it already runs at the mid to high 80s will probably be able to run over 100FPS now or combined with the faster hardware maybe even closer to 120FPS.

People with 120Hz VRR displays will have a great time.

 

[SauRoNZA]

It's £700, so ±R16000 for me. Not bad, I'm quite tempted especially considering PSSR works with the entire library out of the box:



That might be a game changer, the only thing I'm bummed about is no disc drive included.

Yes but what’s the point if you can’t actually see it?

 

[Soul Assassin]

Yes but what’s the point if you can’t actually see it?

What do you mean?

 

[RazedInBlack]

What do you mean?

Ah, don't bother its just Sauron with his anti-Sony rhetoric!

 

[Lord Flacko]

That video could have been a blog post. Somewhat underwhelming.

 

[SauRoNZA]

What do you mean?

Everything in that showcase was rather intangible in its efficacy, to the point where if you blind tested people the majority would get it wrong.

What they made to sound like double the performance amounts to maybe a 5% difference and that difference is such you couldn’t say which one is the Pro and which one isn’t without it being highlighted and zoomed in on.

Ultimately it amounts to a paper value, not a real world difference of experience.

I’m of course referring strictly to visuals not frame rates. But even then those don’t really amount to much right here right now with the 30fps vs 60fps modes.

 

[SauRoNZA]

Ah, don't bother it’s just Sauron with his anti-Sony rhetoric!

Would have said the same thing regardless of the brand.

It says more about the industry itself than Sony really.

 

[Soul Assassin]

Everything in that showcase was rather intangible in its efficacy, to the point where if you blind tested people the majority would get it wrong.

What they made to sound like double the performance amounts to maybe a 5% difference and that difference is such you couldn’t say which one is the Pro and which one isn’t without it being highlighted and zoomed in on.

Ultimately it amounts to a paper value, not a real world difference of experience.

I’m of course referring strictly to visuals not frame rates. But even then those don’t really amount to much right here right now with the 30fps vs 60fps modes.

Oh yeah I get what you're saying, it's one of those where Digital Foundry will pause, zoom in 200% and then play it in slowmo to show a leaf has 4 extra veins in the enhanced version.

I don't imagine many PS5 owners will go for this, more new buyers, or maybe old PS4 holdouts but I do think the added performance at least will lead to better and more stable frames, minor graphical improvements but bigger improvements to overall fluidity/smoothness.

 

[Priapus]

Was just about to buy a PS5 again. They about £380. Won’t bother waiting for the Pro to become available.

 

[felixbf]

It's £700, so ±R16000 for me. Not bad, I'm quite tempted especially considering PSSR works with the entire library out of the box:



That might be a game changer, the only thing I'm bummed about is no disc drive included.

Na, basically gonna be like ps4 pro supersampling.
All this for stupid ray tracing.

 

[SauRoNZA]

Oh yeah I get what you're saying, it's one of those where Digital Foundry will pause, zoom in 200% and then play it in slowmo to show a leaf has 4 extra veins in the enhanced version.

I don't imagine many PS5 owners will go for this, more new buyers, or maybe old PS4 holdouts but I do think the added performance at least will lead to better and more stable frames, minor graphical improvements but bigger improvements to overall fluidity/smoothness.

Yeah I’ll take a wait and see approach and see what happens in the PSVR2 space, not that it’s really lacking right now, but that would be my only motivation for a potential purchase.

Maybe in the future with a VRR TV, but even the the loss on current console plus the upgrade purchase will likely outweigh the price of PS6 at launch which will likely do far far more.

I wish they’d put this much effort into their software. The fact you can’t move stuff between drives in the background or turn the thing off without a hundred button presses is still outrageous to me in 2024.

 

[NR7]

Everything in that showcase was rather intangible in its efficacy, to the point where if you blind tested people the majority would get it wrong.

I partly agree with you. The 60fps modes in first party titles like R&C Rift Apart and Horizon Forbidden West were so darn good that they really didn't need any improvements.

They should've showcased it with the sub-1080p stuff like Star Wars Outlaws, Black Myth Wukong, FF XVI and Alan Wake 2 among others. Those titles would show huge benefits from the bigger GPU + PSSR, very little chance of anyone with decent vision failing a blind test on those.

 

[Polymathic]

Probably going to be a R17K or R18K machine in South Africa, who here is invested enough in the Sony Ecosystem to make that purchase?

 

[SauRoNZA]

I partly agree with you. The 60fps modes in first party titles like R&C Rift Apart and Horizon Forbidden West were so darn good that they really didn't need any improvements.

They should've showcased it with the sub-1080p stuff like Star Wars Outlaws, Black Myth Wukong, FF XVI and Alan Wake 2 among others. Those titles would show huge benefits from the bigger GPU + PSSR, very little chance of anyone with decent vision failing a blind test on those.

Yeah I think time will tell, but that showcase alone was rubbish and did nothing to convince me to even pay any further attention, never mind but one.