Rape victim gets 200 lashes

So how is it that you assume (cause thats what you doing) muslim woman in our country are raised?

Were they beaten? "Brainwashed" into beliving what?
Made to feel inferior and stupid?

I wonder why there are so many at the universities then?
 
I think making females feel stupid in a country ruled by idiots would be very hard to do JK8, so dont worry about that.
 
jk8...are you for real? I mean are you like an honest to goodness poster or are you just doing a parody? I can't tell...it seems like you're serious but I can't believe you would honestly subscribe to those opinions..
 
Stifled by stringent restrictions

How come Muslims here always claim that the backward behaviour and beliefs of those like the ones calling for the teachers death are not representative of "Islam".

I bet all the male Muslims are quite content with the below laws.

http://iafrica.com/news/features/689080.htm

Women in the ultra-conservative Muslim powerhouse of Saudi Arabia navigate through life amid harsh restrictions imposed by a rigid interpretation of Islam and stringent tradition.

These constraints were highlighted again this month after a judge sentenced to six months in jail and 200 lashes of the whip a 19-year-old woman who was kidnapped at knife-point with a male companion and then gang-raped.

They are mostly unwritten restrictions based on tradition and religion and as such have come to be considered law.

Home to Islam's holiest sites, Mecca and Medina, the kingdom of Saudi Arabia is ruled by Wahhabism, a rigorous doctrine of Sunni Islam whose sharia (laws) impose a total segregation of the sexes.

So in the view of the kingdom's conservative society, the young rape victim broke the first of a string of cardinal rules and sinned by being in the physical presence of a male who is not a directly related relative.

In Saudi Arabia, a male guardian, who could be the woman's grandfather, father, uncle, husband, son or brother, literally controls her life.

And no matter how old they are, Saudi women need a "mahram" or a guardian — a husband or close male relative if they are widowed or single — in order to apply for and obtain a passport.

"Here, the son is the male guardian of his mother if she is a widow or divorced. She would need his written approval for anything... She has no value," said Saudi activist Wajiha al-Hweider

Fellow women rights activist Hatoon al-Fassi said women in Saudi Arabia suffer from the lack of written laws, which subjects rulings concerning them to the discretion of judges, and complained of "male-chauvinism" in her country.

"A woman is treated always as a minor and as a second-class citizen," said Fassi, a history at King Saud University in Riyadh.

In Saudi Arabia, sex segregation means that women attending a conference must sit behind a partition to ensure no eye or physical contact with male delegates.

And they certainly cannot eat alone in restaurants, where seating is arranged for "families' — women accompanied by husbands or male guardians — or for men only.

A religious police known as "mutawas", or pious men, criss-cross the kingdom's streets to ensure that the rules are strictly observed and shield the nation against vice.

The "mutawas", who stop couples to check their identities, belong to the Saudi Commission for the Protection of Virtue and Suppression of Vice, which also ensure that Saudi women are dressed properly according.

Women must be covered from head to toe, hiding their shapes thanks to a loose-fitting black "abaya" gown, and most of them wear as well a "hijab" veil over the heads and a "niqab" mask concealing the faces, except for the eyes.

Some women, however, have begun to remove the "niqab".

But in Saudi Arabia none of them have the right to drive.

Information Minister Iyad bin Amin Madani was quoted as saying last year that nothing in the law prevented women from applying for a driving licence.

A group of 47 women defied the taboo in November 1990, and cruised Riyadh unchecked for half an hour before police swooped down, detained them and reprimanded their male guardians.

Although women cannot drive or be in the presence of an unrelated male relative, they can be chauffeured around by hired drivers not related to the family.

Political constraints also mean that Saudi women are totally absent from the Shura (consultative) Council, an all-male body whose members are appointed by the king, and were barred from landmark municipal elections in 2005.

But despite the restrictions more women than men in Saudi Arabia pursue higher education and the number of females active in the business sector is on the rise.
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The Kuran, like the Bible, can be expected to contain a lot of things that are outdated or just plain wrong. They will also both be open to interpretation. The result is that the field is wide open for loonies and control freaks.
 
The Kuran, like the Bible, can be expected to contain a lot of things that are outdated or just plain wrong. They will also both be open to interpretation. The result is that the field is wide open for loonies and control freaks.

Please take note that of course is your uninformed opinion...
Do you know God?
If you don't you should not be so insulting towards believers...

I am not allowed to say my say about crooked beliefs such as evolution in this forum, why don't you leave my beliefs alone?

Major problem: Undisciplened selfrightious youth of this country. Bible teaching discipline your children otherwise it will turn into anger when they are grown-ups... the outdated book is exactly correct...look at the crime and violence...
 
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I agree. If more people killed their disobedient children, as the Bible instructs, we'd have fewer naughty children.
 
jk8...are you for real? I mean are you like an honest to goodness poster or are you just doing a parody? I can't tell...it seems like you're serious but I can't believe you would honestly subscribe to those opinions..

Which opinion? I have quite a bit...
 
IMO, knowone should be judging how people should practice their beliefs. If that is the way they carry out their beliefs, then so be it.

If the women don't want to in that sort of society, then they should find a way out of it.
 
IMO, knowone should be judging how people should practice their beliefs. If that is the way they carry out their beliefs, then so be it.

If the women don't want to in that sort of society, then they should find a way out of it.

Just like black people should have just found their way out of Apartheid S.A :confused:
 
IMO, knowone should be judging how people should practice their beliefs. If that is the way they carry out their beliefs, then so be it.

If the women don't want to in that sort of society, then they should find a way out of it.

They are often trapped and brainwashed; it is going to take much external influence to get them out of this mistreatment and cruelty. Do you think they can just book the next flight out of the country?
 
IMO, knowone should be judging how people should practice their beliefs. If that is the way they carry out their beliefs, then so be it.

If the women don't want to in that sort of society, then they should find a way out of it.

That is incredibly naive.
 
IMO, knowone should be judging how people should practice their beliefs. If that is the way they carry out their beliefs, then so be it.
So anything goes? No matter what their beliefs we must keep quiet.

When religious belief is enshrined in the law and imposed on everyone they have gone too far.
 
They are often trapped and brainwashed; it is going to take much external influence to get them out of this mistreatment and cruelty. Do you think they can just book the next flight out of the country?

Trapped and brainwashed? Where do you get that from?
Are you saying my mom and sister and other females in my family brainwashed?

Maybe you and society are brainwashed into believing they are brainwashed.
 
Trapped and brainwashed? Where do you get that from?
Are you saying my mom and sister and other females in my family brainwashed?

If they live in Saudi Arabia, then yes, I'd bet my life they're brought up to feel inferior to males, and have severe restrictions placed on them in terms of activities and travel.
 
If they live in Saudi Arabia, then yes, I'd bet my life they're brought up to feel inferior to males, and have severe restrictions placed on them in terms of activities and travel.

Nope they brought up here, but share the same beliefs as woman in Saudi.
Lol Ill tell her you said so:p
You dont like your life much I see.
 
Nope they brought up here, but share the same beliefs as woman in Saudi.
Lol Ill tell her you said so:p
You dont like your life much I see.

If your mom, sister and other females in your family agree that it's correct for this girl to get 200 lashes for being raped, then tell them from me I think they're brainwashed.

As to your other comment...:confused:
 
If your mom, sister and other females in your family agree that it's correct for this girl to get 200 lashes for being raped, then tell them from me I think they're brainwashed.

As to your other comment...:confused:

They not as closed minded as maybe you or other woman are... They would know there must be other reasons as to why she received it...
 
They not as closed minded as maybe you or other woman are... They would know there must be other reasons as to why she received it...

That is so painfully ironic. I'm disgusted. :sick:
 
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