Uhm MS SQL server is way more robust then MySQL (If you did not know, MySQL was developed for embeded devices when it started out) and no I am not a Microsoft Fanboy!
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Uhm MS SQL server is way more robust then MySQL (If you did not know, MySQL was developed for embeded devices when it started out) and no I am not a Microsoft Fanboy!
Pfft, I'm on 60MB with Arch + Openbox. Makes my old 1.4GHz Celeron, 1.25GB Ram notebook run like a a frigging supercomputer
Thing feels super snot fast even compared to my desktop (see signature).
hmmm openbox + tint2 == <3
Moederloos
Honorary Master
QFT.
And it is a billion times worse with kid's movies. The kid asks to watch something, you dig around for 10 mins just to find the f'ing disk, put it in, and stand around for another 10 mins while the f'ing thing crawls to the main menu, so you can push play, and return to what you were doing. Only to be called 20 mins later when the kid wants to watch another f'ing disk, or the same f'ing disk has a 20 min play time.
Of course, I can just rip it to XVID, put it on a usb stick, and press PLAY in 5 seconds.
Choices....
Moederloos
Honorary Master
You will need to back up that spurious claim with some facts. And don't forget to differentiate between MSSQL and each file storage type MySQL supports, and back up the comparison there as well.
I have both a MSSQL and a mySQL db and both have been running, without a single minute of downtime, for over 5 years now. And I am not even using InnoDB - just vanilla isam, which is less robust by design.
No one has mentioned the main reason most business users have to stick to Linux is Microsoft Exchange combined with Outlook. Last I tried there was no Linux client that could connect to Exchange, not sure if things have changed now
Bismuth
Expert Member
If you just want "something to work",and couldn't be bothered with doing a bit of research, and in the process learning something, stick with Windows. Not that things always "just work" in Windows, but yeah.
Have only ever used MySQL, and am loving it. Never used MSSQL, so can't comment there.
I could care less if someone insists on using MS products, heck I am on my cell, but don't go all fanboy on me, because that is just annoying.
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Have only ever used MySQL, and am loving it. Never used MSSQL, so can't comment there.
I could care less if someone insists on using MS products, heck I am on my cell, but don't go all fanboy on me, because that is just annoying.
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Wogan
Well-Known Member
I think Evolution (Ubuntu) can talk to Exchange, but I'm not sure about the latest versions.
Wogan
Well-Known Member
I'd gladly sacrifice the odd bit of games I play for an OS that works natively with the servers I develop on. Except that Ubuntu does a crappy job with handling my video card (Radeon HD4670, not exactly rare).
And personally I'd rather have wider hardware support than yet another online music and file storage system, which Canonical seems to be enamored with of late.
And personally I'd rather have wider hardware support than yet another online music and file storage system, which Canonical seems to be enamored with of late.
oldBastard
Expert Member
Yip Evo can't connect to exch7.
DGremlin
Well-Known Member
One thing I try to tell people is WIndows and Linux are different beasts.
Windows is very mouse orientated, and in most cases easier for a casual user to use, especially everyday jobs.
Linux power is grounded in the command line and that where its power lies, indepth tasks are easier to get to via the built in system, however the different Window Managers ie Gnome, KDE, xfce or Blackbox the functionality is improving and as Linux improves its Window Managers it Seems windows is realising the power of the command line as Exchange 2007 and 2010 is now becoming very command line orientated.
I am often asked why is should a person boot into linux over windows or why is linux better and in truth its not better its different, and I usually try to explain why the 2 OS's have their place and where that place overlaps.
I would happily move my Granny over to linux, because whether its windows or Linux when she wants something new installed she will call me anyways. That said linux nowdays has a lot of generic drivers installed for printers, modems and a whole range of basic everyday devices, where with windows you still have to go through the process of installing the device linux simply recognises the device, installs it and presents the installed device.
Linux is an option, try it.
Windows is very mouse orientated, and in most cases easier for a casual user to use, especially everyday jobs.
Linux power is grounded in the command line and that where its power lies, indepth tasks are easier to get to via the built in system, however the different Window Managers ie Gnome, KDE, xfce or Blackbox the functionality is improving and as Linux improves its Window Managers it Seems windows is realising the power of the command line as Exchange 2007 and 2010 is now becoming very command line orientated.
I am often asked why is should a person boot into linux over windows or why is linux better and in truth its not better its different, and I usually try to explain why the 2 OS's have their place and where that place overlaps.
I would happily move my Granny over to linux, because whether its windows or Linux when she wants something new installed she will call me anyways. That said linux nowdays has a lot of generic drivers installed for printers, modems and a whole range of basic everyday devices, where with windows you still have to go through the process of installing the device linux simply recognises the device, installs it and presents the installed device.
Linux is an option, try it.
Curtix2
Senior Member
EPIC LOL
mysticBoer
Well-Known Member
I use Thunderbird on Ubuntu 9.10 and connect using IMAP. I get all my mail just fine but I do say I miss the calendar in Outlook. I've switched over to Google calendar though and I have to say it's almost better than Outlook's since its available everywhere and nowadays it's very easy to sync your mobile devices with Google Calendar.
As for the whole Linux vs Windows thing...in most cases they shouldn't even be compared in the same sentence.
Windows has a few things that IMHO are top notch and you'll probably never beat on the Linux side. A few things that spring to mind are:
*Windows Explorer - The layout just makes more sense and Microsoft themselves are finding it hard to improve on an already perfect interface
*Games - nuff said on the subject so far
*Drivers - MS has the upper hand because of partnerships with most of the big names. 99% of devices work out of the box on Windows. The same can definately not be said for Windows
*KISS - Keep it safe and simple - Most tasks on Windows is dead easy.
Linux has a far larger list of reasons that it's better:
*Linux is not KISS, nor do I think it's meant to be, but you the plethora of utilities and little command line utilities make it a dream to use for someone in my line of work (Network Engineer - lot's of problem solving)
*As a server, I doubt you'll really beat Linux when it comes to scalability, stability and performance. Look at LAMP (Linux, Apache, MySQL and PHP) for instance. It's as simple as doing a sudo tasksel (ubuntu), selecting LAMP and voila, after literally a few short minutes it just works.
*Desktop wise - I fail to understand how a software powerhouse with unlimited funding capabilities (M$ in this case) cannot even develop a nice 3D capable UI. Face it, Aero sucks balls. Ubuntu (and most other Linux OS's) has a highly configurable and versatile compiz suite available with mind blowing effects...all available for free. Sorry MS, but here you disappoint.
You'll always have your fanboys on both sides of the fence. I for one need both OS's. Microsoft Office is an integral part of our reporting and our inhouse product was developed for Windows. Otherwise, I would've been a die hard linux user. Games don't bother me that much. I play the odd game once in a blue moon, so having to do a bit of WINEing doesn't bother me, since some of my Windows games actually run better in WINE than on Windows itself. Weird!
As far as drivers go, you're 100% correct. Its a big mission to get any of the distros working on my new acer laptop that has an ATI Radeon graphics adapter. Then i tried the latest Ubuntu Beta and it works!
I recently bought an Acer with an i3 processor which came with windows 7 pre-installed. It boots like an aged dog with arthritis - more than a minute. Booting off an ubuntu live CD give windows 7 a run for its money. As soon as the next release of Ubuntu (28th April I believe), I'll be taking the plunge and converting myself to Linux.
KikzAzz
Expert Member
Very good point! I also found that one of the major hurdles.
KikzAzz
Expert Member
It can talk to Exchange, but looks like crap compared to Outlook. Talk to and integrate to exchange in the sense that Outlook does is also totally different.
Funny how Linux users always jump on the "it makes Awesome servers" bandwagon when we're taking about pc users.
Funny how Windows users always jump on the "it can play Games" bandwagon when we talk about pc users.
Funny how i only love OSX when it comes to using a pc.
Funny how Windows users always jump on the "it can play Games" bandwagon when we talk about pc users.
Funny how i only love OSX when it comes to using a pc.
recken
Member
Thank the Gods
The most important thing to remember when switching to Linux is that Linux is not Windows - Thank the Gods
The most important thing to remember when switching to Linux is that Linux is not Windows - Thank the Gods
The linux developers need to realise that if linux is to become mainstream you have got to design the product for mainstream and that means upsetting the hardcore fan base! So it has to look good, be user friendly and just work when you plug something in to it. I reckon that part of the reason linux is where it is today is that it was first designed for the programmers and became almost an exclusive club while Windows (maybe a bad example) and OSX focused on the consumer. Now linux is having to play catchup by trying to drop its nerdy reputation and become more sexy. Like a previous poster said even the names of the programs are silly which still shows who its real target market is.