Recommendations for replacing ripped car battery

thechamp said:
Not everyone is a macho man like you and me, I still insist on a knowledgeable person carrying out any repairs. Lest you forget this is a Brio and the last time we discussed one it was not a pleasant thread, let us treat this Brio with the caution it deserves.
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SauRoNZA said:
I would argue you are more likely to fry something putting the wrong battery in the car than no battery at all.
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I respectfully disagree, car batteries are pretty universal, as long as one takes note of the polarity i don't see how you can use "the wrong battery", the main differences are battery capacity "ah" and cold cranking amps "cca".
ah means absolutely nothing in this scenario, and not much in most scenario's. cca would potentially mean more but generally today's smaller batteries put out enough amps to start even bigger cars.

I have a power bank jump starter thats limited by its cable thickness to about 100amps and that easily starts my Ford Fiesta. Even my bike battery has a 175cca.

That's why i would recommend get another battery and drive it to an auto electrician.
 
thechamp said:
Not everyone is a macho man like you and me, I still insist on a knowledgeable person carrying out any repairs. Lest you forget this is a Brio and the last time we discussed one it was not a pleasant thread, let us treat this Brio with the caution it deserves.
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I still question if there are repairs needed, can't tell much from the pics.
 
Zuner said:
I respectfully disagree, car batteries are pretty universal, as long as one takes note of the polarity i don't see how you can use "the wrong battery", the main differences are battery capacity "ah" and cold cranking amps "cca".
ah means absolutely nothing in this scenario, and not much in most scenario's. cca would potentially mean more but generally today's smaller batteries put out enough amps to start even bigger cars.

I have a power bank jump starter thats limited by its cable thickness to about 100amps and that easily starts my Ford Fiesta. Even my bike battery has a 175cca.

That's why i would recommend get another battery and drive it to an auto electrician.
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Amperage is exactly what matters if it's the wrong size battery for the car.

It can draw too hard from the alternator and cock that up.

The regulator also might not be able to deal with it which in turn could also have it fry the ECU and any piece of electronics connected to it.

Either way it's a "what if" scenario and ideally one would avoid it altogether. I'm just of the opinion a battery that is too large (this is a Brio after all) could do more harm than running without a battery.

That is if it was possible to get it started without one of course in the first place.

Same reason you never jump start a bike from a car battery and if you do risk it you never run the car while doing so.
 
SauRoNZA said:
Amperage is exactly what matters if it's the wrong size battery for the car.

It can draw too hard from the alternator and cock that up.

The regulator also might not be able to deal with it which in turn could also have it fry the ECU and any piece of electronics connected to it.

Either way it's a "what if" scenario and ideally one would avoid it altogether. I'm just of the opinion a battery that is too large (this is a Brio after all) could do more harm than running without a battery.

That is if it was possible to get it started without one of course in the first place.

Same reason you never jump start a bike from a car battery and if you do risk it you never run the car while doing so.
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Again i respectfully disagree, lol i'm really trying not to argue so please don't take it that way.

A car (or any device for that matter) will only pull the amps it needs, so weather its a bike battery/ car battery/ or a 12v truck battery its the same. the car upon starting will only pull what it needs.

As for the regulator/alternator that that over time could suffer trying to charge a bigger ah rated battery but if its kept full all the time i see no reason for any issues.

As for jumping a bike from a car, there's nothing wrong with it, for the same reason a bigger battery is not an issue, though having the car not started would probably be best if you don't know your alternator voltage output vs the bikes max voltage input.

SauRoNZA said:
It can draw too hard from the alternator and cock that up.
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This is exactly why i'd want a battery in the car, it keeps the voltage more stable when there's sudden draw, like lights, windscreen wipers etc.
 
Zuner said:
Again i respectfully disagree, lol i'm really trying not to argue so please don't take it that way.
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Nah I'm just having a conversation about it, I'm certainly not an expert in this regard but it's a contentious issue as you'll find Google will have opinions going both ways.

A car (or any device for that matter) will only pull the amps it needs, so weather its a bike battery/ car battery/ or a 12v truck battery its the same. the car upon starting will only pull what it needs.
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Yeah but that's under the assumption that it's operating with all the correct parts it was designed to make use of.

Something like a cellphone, for instance, will be especially geared towards this as it was designed to operate with a much wider set of variables.

I don't believe a car goes through all that much effort to safeguard itself because it's simply anticipating fewer variables in the design.

As for jumping a bike from a car, there's nothing wrong with it, for the same reason a bigger battery is not an issue, though having the car not started would probably be best if you don't know your alternator voltage output vs the bikes max voltage input.
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Except that I've literally seen a bike pop many of its fuses doing exactly this. Fortunately no permanent damage.

Granted I wasn't there at the time of connection so there is a chance it was simply jump started wrong.

This link says it's a generally bad idea...

https://itstillruns.com/problems-using-large-auto-battery-7449907.html

Whether any of it is relevant for the super short term even I doubt and in this situation would have just done and seen what happens.

I think in the longer term something will need to give somewhere, likely the alternator.
 
SauRoNZA said:
Amperage is exactly what matters if it's the wrong size battery for the car.

It can draw too hard from the alternator and cock that up.

The regulator also might not be able to deal with it which in turn could also have it fry the ECU and any piece of electronics connected to it.

Either way it's a "what if" scenario and ideally one would avoid it altogether. I'm just of the opinion a battery that is too large (this is a Brio after all) could do more harm than running without a battery.

That is if it was possible to get it started without one of course in the first place.

Same reason you never jump start a bike from a car battery and if you do risk it you never run the car while doing so.
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What a klomp toss are you spewing!
 
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It's so weird. If I say I ripped my pants, there will be a hole torn in them. I expected a battery with a cut down the one side or something.
 
RedViking said:
Lol, the guys here who is more worried on how the battery went missing than solving the issue. :ROFL:
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Nothing wrong with it though, and explain a problem in detail is always a good practice before any advice is given, sometimes the circumstances needs to be taken into consideration.
 
thechamp said:
Not everyone is a macho man like you and me, I still insist on a knowledgeable person carrying out any repairs. Lest you forget this is a Brio and the last time we discussed one it was not a pleasant thread, let us treat this Brio with the contempt it deserves.
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FTFY :ROFL:
 
Zuner said:
I still question if there are repairs needed, can't tell much from the pics.
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I still think whatever needs to be done is clearly beyond OP's capabilities, some people just never open the bonnet until something goes wrong, then they do and stare at engine. At first glance it looks a s simple as getting a good glue to mend the plastics and connecting wires.

Plus it is the girlfriends car, which makes any DIY attempts even more risky.
 
thechamp said:
I still think whatever needs to be done is clearly beyond OP's capabilities, some people just never open the bonnet until something goes wrong, then they do and stare at engine. At first glance it looks a s simple as getting a good glue to mend the plastics and connecting wires.

Plus it is the girlfriends car, which makes any DIY attempts even more risky.
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Sometimes it is necessary. ;)
 
RedViking said:
Battery doesn't seem to issue but the damaged components OP is looking for.
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Everything he needs to get the car started is there (looking at his pics), only thing he may need to do is cover the positive so that there is no chance or it arcing.
Both terminals are there, he can strap the battery down to hold it in place, connect the terminals, cover the positive and good to go (to the closest honda).
 
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