Rectron struck by cyberattack

Progenix Oj101 said:
Honestly, not really. The only issue I really have is a single case, where an alternative can't be offered. For everything else, there have been alternatives.
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Alternatives eat into margins, and the overall effect would be dependent on turnover. On a pivotal operation like Rectron and its busier downstream retailers, it would be quite significant.
 
Sinbad said:
As I said most companies wouldn't have the skills to fully investigate. It does take time but it also gives you the assurance that the hole has been closed, any lateral movement has been identified, backdoors or Trojans identified and eliminated, data exfiltration identified, so you can make a full and accurate report to whoever has a stake in this.
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Also if they ever catch the guy and it goes to court you'd want someone who is qualified to investigate and collect evidence.

External companies that specialise in this see these attacks everyday and have the expertise so can get to the bottom of it a lot quicker. It's not often the company's cybersecurity team get to deal with ransomware.
 
RonSwanson said:
Alternatives eat into margins, and the overall effect would be dependent on turnover
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Rectron isn't exactly cheap. Alternatives are generally cheaper, and often significantly so. Stupid example, Ryzen 5 9600X, 13% more than elsewhere. Very often, a BETTER alternative can be offered for the same price or lower.
 
RonSwanson said:
This is causing Rectron's retailers to lose money. Earlier this week I was forced to go to evetech for a component :sick:
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My condolences for you being forced to go to Evetech. Why not trder from Wootware with same day delivery?

Did you meet the Pakistani owners who are brothers, with long muslim robes and beards who look like snake-oil salesmen?
 
Progenix Oj101 said:
Rectron isn't exactly cheap. Alternatives are generally cheaper, and often significantly so. Stupid example, Ryzen 5 9600X, 13% more than elsewhere. Very often, a BETTER alternative can be offered for the same price or lower.
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How exactly can I as a consumer, buy a dozen 9950X3D's/64Gb Ram for each system, RTX 5070ti/5080's depending on price x 12, Mainboards like Tomahawk B850 WiFi x12, and Class A PSU's x 12, preferably Super-Flower Leadex VII 1300w from them?

Surely they could sell a dozen good sets of each component to an end user or are they inflexible in their "|Retailer Only Sales" policy? 13% is a lot of money to save when buying bulk.
 
longboy said:
How exactly can I as a consumer, buy a dozen 9950X3D's/64Gb Ram for each system, RTX 5070ti/5080's depending on price x 12, Mainboards like Tomahawk B850 WiFi x12, and Class A PSU's x 12, preferably Super-Flower Leadex VII 1300w from them?
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You won't, partially because they don't sell half of your list :P

But no, as a consumer they won't deal with you. They're quite renowned for closing accounts that don't meet the monthly order requirements, and that leaves you in a pickle if anything is ever returned under warranty and credited.

longboy said:
13% is a lot of money to save when buying bulk.
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I'm not at all sure what you mean. I'm saying there are other distis who are far cheaper than Rectron - 13% cheaper in the example I gave.
 
Progenix Oj101 said:
You won't, partially because they don't sell half of your list :P

But no, as a consumer they won't deal with you. They're quite renowned for closing accounts that don't meet the monthly order requirements, and that leaves you in a pickle if anything is ever returned under warranty and credited.


I'm not at all sure what you mean. I'm saying there are other distis who are far cheaper than Rectron - 13% cheaper in the example I gave.
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They are quite renowned for refusing account applications if you don't meet the following criteria:

* Monthly volumes of X ZAR
* Company Founding Statement and Registered Business Activity at CIPC does not say COMPUTERS/IT/COMPUTER DEALER, etc
* If they even suspect you registered a company to get access to their products but you still work the day job and earning money on the side at night by selling computers. They busted me for this years ago.
 
RonSwanson said:
Alternatives eat into margins, and the overall effect would be dependent on turnover. On a pivotal operation like Rectron and its busier downstream retailers, it would be quite significant.
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well everyone had at least since monday to make the adjustments and preventatives. at the very least friday.

also you could offer client alternatives wait and pay same or dont wait pay more. its the clients choice end of the day. its the stores choice to use the sales tools they have to continue the sale.

unless your clients are super chilled.

EmmanuelGoldstein said:
They are quite renowned for refusing account applications if you don't meet the following criteria:

* Monthly volumes of X ZAR
* Company Founding Statement and Registered Business Activity at CIPC does not say COMPUTERS/IT/COMPUTER DEALER, etc
* If they even suspect you registered a company to get access to their products but you still work the day job and earning money on the side at night by selling computers. They busted me for this years ago.
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arent they all.

when i opened a Rectron account i didnt trade at all for 2 years no issues i must of been lucky :).

but yes a lot of them you loose feed access at first if you dont meet the criteria remember dont waste their time they wont waste yours.
they have thousands of clients per sales staff. imagine having a client base of 800 and only 1 or 2 are buying then what is the point keeping the other 798.

Mustek did this to me back in 2021/2022 and all i had to do was buy a flash drive so i did
frontosa the same

i just buy something if it happens which has been a while since it happened im supprised the other one isnt saying anything since im not buying R13k as a agreed 3 years ago (more like R200) monthly


Also just be nice to them make friends talk kak build a relationship we all on the same goal and thats make money if you dont want to make money then tough.

now the part about

"* If they even suspect you registered a company to get access to their products but you still work the day job and earning money on the side at night by selling computers. They busted me for this years ago."

Remember this protects their clients. i have had a few calls in the passed where my account managers are like
"hey your client is here lol trying to make an account:" and i say good for him good luck but they deny them and come back.

They strictly B2B and you got to bring something to the table.

also why i dont sign up with Core since i know what they want i cant give them (for now). also they imafamous for these things.
 
Progenix Oj101 said:
You won't, partially because they don't sell half of your list :P

But no, as a consumer they won't deal with you. They're quite renowned for closing accounts that don't meet the monthly order requirements, and that leaves you in a pickle if anything is ever returned under warranty and credited...
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Damn. In that case I might as well wait and buy them all as a single order plus more in S.Korea when I visit in Sep.

15% customs VAT and 20% duty on the first R25k is not so bad on it when I return, and luckily they are small items and not cases/monitors etc. Still a hassle though to carry so much luggage back and making sure none of it breaks etc. Warranty would be my only issue but I can send them back easily with the monthly export.

If I owned a large Wholesale B2B unit, I would form a Hardware cartel with the other Wholesalers, and large retailers like Wootware/Progenix to kick Evetsek and all other small retailers out of the market, then we'd agree on set prices for each component between us with a slight rotating margin at random, and get more profits ~ equally between us on items sold. That rotating margin can be used to prove no collusion etc.

Much like what SK Hynix/ Samsung/ Micron are doing from the last decade.
 
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longboy said:
Damn. In that case I might as well wait and buy them all as a single order plus more in S.Korea when I visit in Sep.

15% customs VAT and 20% duty on the first R25k is not so bad on it when I return, and luckily they are small items and not cases/monitors etc. Still a hassle though to carry so much luggage back and making sure none of it breaks etc. Warranty would be my only issue but I can send them back easily with the monthly export.

If I owned a large Wholesale B2B unit, I would form a Hardware cartel with the other Wholesalers, and large retailers like Wootware/Progenix to kick Evetsek and all other small retailers out of the market, then we'd agree on set prices for each component between us with a slight rotating margin at random, and get more profits ~ equally between us on items sold. That rotating margin can be used to prove no collusion etc.

Much like what SK Hynix/ Samsung/ Micron are doing from the last decade.
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good luck with warranty issues

superflower is done by wootware anyway they bring them in.

btw your reasononing ....below wont work. like at all.
 
longboy said:
Damn. In that case I might as well wait and buy them all as a single order plus more in S.Korea when I visit in Sep.

15% customs VAT and 20% duty on the first R25k is not so bad on it when I return, and luckily they are small items and not cases/monitors etc. Still a hassle though to carry so much luggage back and making sure none of it breaks etc. Warranty would be my only issue but I can send them back easily with the monthly export.
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Unfortunately I can see customs having a field day with you. Those quantities you're wanting look like something purchased for resale, not personal belongings. Additionally, it greatly exceeds the value limit you're allowed to import before they ask for your importer registration. I'm pretty sure you wouldn't want the admin penalties, storage fees, and possibly even forfeiture.

Additionally... Even with all packaging removed, it's far too large for carry-on. Insurance? Imagine a baggage handler manhandles the bag and you end up with bent GPUs. I know of this happening to someone circa 2022, albeit only a single GPU.
 
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