Reflexology anyone?

Serqet said:
What is a SCIO machine?
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I'm still not exactly sure, but the first sentence I saw when I googled it was "The SCIO is a sophisticated and profound energetic medicine system, derived from the SCIO [Quantum Xrroid Consciousness Interface]".

Riiigght :rolleyes: Anytime they feel the need to use the word "quantum", you can be pretty sure it's one of those loopy type devices with no science behind them.
 
DJK said:
Random waffle intended to bullsh1t people out of their money - well done. See this is the problem (one of many), not even the proponents of this scam can collectively agree on what qi and reflexology are...:rolleyes:
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How much do you know about Qi or reflexology?
 
I acknowledge that for you:
arf9999 said:
1. Qi doesn't exist.
2. Reflexology is useless for the diagnosis or treatment of anything but tired feet.
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I feel no need to convince anyone to the contrary. I put forward an alternative view of life and interactions. It is your choice to either reject it or consider that it might add some new possibilities to your life.
 
I choose, like any rational person, to weigh up the evidence. In the case of CAM, mostly there isn't any.

Reflexology does not work, there is no evidence anywhere that it is able to diagnose or treat any disorder. Much the same as homeopathy, Patrick Holford-style "nutritionists", aromatherapy, aura-healing, crystal healing, chiropractors, and reiki. Acupuncture works to release muscle spasms by neutralising electrical charges within muscles... that it about all that it can be proved to do scientifically.

All other CAM results are due to the placebo effect.
 
The problem most here have is they have never tried the reflexology/SCIO!!!

so sorry i can't accept what you have to say...

And so BTW, the SCIO uses electrical impulses to check what is wrong with your body...
 
Peder said:
The problem most here have is they have never tried the reflexology/SCIO!!!

so sorry i can't accept what you have to say...

And so BTW, the SCIO uses electrical impulses to check what is wrong with your body...
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From quackwatch...

In 2002, Marshall D. Voris, PhD, a member of the Texas State Medical Board for Acupuncture, tested a QXCI device on himself and a few members of his staff and concluded that it should not be considered a biofeedback device. In a report to Rex's attorney, he stated:

The device fires low levels of current into the patient and then in a method similar to radar, reads the bounced signals and transfers them to a database. The data base consists of several thousand diagnostic categories from several different medical disciplines including homeopathy, acupuncture, chiropractic, traditional medical, as well as astrology, prayer wells, and other mystical data. Upon studying the software I also found pornographic images embedded in it, for what reason I was unable to determine.

Based on that database, the patient is given a diagnosis. I ran several tests on myself and was diagnosed as having elevated mercury levels, high blood pressure, asthma, and early stage pancreatic cancer, and allergies to milk, cows, and sunlight. I was amused, as I have none of those conditions or allergies.

I tested other members of my staff and discovered similar misdiagnosis including one of the male doctors who was diagnosed a being both pregnant and suffering from testicular cancer.

If the diagnostics were not bad enough, I discovered that the QXCI then fires micro currents back into the body purportedly in an attempt to alter the conditions it has diagnosed. We use microcurrent in our practice for pain control, but one has to be careful with it as it can result in disrupted equilibrium for patients.

Although myself and the other doctors here found my results to be humorous, it would not be so for the unsuspecting patient exposed to this device. This device must be classified as dangerous. The danger it presents is two-fold: (1) it makes misleading and inconsistent diagnosis; and (2) the firing of microcurrent into an individual can be harmful [21].

Regulatory Action

In January 2008, after being embarrassed by investigative reports published in the Seattle Times [22}, the FDA banned importation of the QCXI [23]. Although this is a step in the right direction, it will not protect consumers from practitioners who already have the device. Moreover, deceptive packaging may make importation difficult to detect.
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yeah and the moon is made of cheese eh arf?

Sorry but i have been on that machine and know it works... some people want to see things that aren't there...

Strange thing though is that it wasn't just knocked off, and thats what makes me think that yeah maybe part of the machine is worth nothing but another part is worth something... and fortunately i don't goto any person who has a scio... i goto a qualified doctor...
 
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If it walks like a duck, sounds like a duck, I'm guessing it's a duck.

I'm happy that it worked for you...
 
arf9999 said:
I choose, like any rational person, to weigh up the evidence. In the case of CAM, mostly there isn't any.

Reflexology does not work, there is no evidence anywhere that it is able to diagnose or treat any disorder. Much the same as homeopathy, Patrick Holford-style "nutritionists", aromatherapy, aura-healing, crystal healing, chiropractors, and reiki. Acupuncture works to release muscle spasms by neutralising electrical charges within muscles... that it about all that it can be proved to do scientifically.

All other CAM results are due to the placebo effect.
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Interesting that you include chiro in all that... I'm never quite sure if it's a reputable, scientific treatment method or not. Then again, I guess the physical manipulation might work regardless of the underlying theory being wrong? I used to go to some place for my shoulder (forget what it was called) and they had some weird concept of unlocking energy flows along your spine... I'm pretty sure that what actually helped wasn't the improved energy flows but the massaging of the tight muscles!
 
CathJ said:
Interesting that you include chiro in all that... I'm never quite sure if it's a reputable, scientific treatment method or not. Then again, I guess the physical manipulation might work regardless of the underlying theory being wrong? I used to go to some place for my shoulder (forget what it was called) and they had some weird concept of unlocking energy flows along your spine... I'm pretty sure that what actually helped wasn't the improved energy flows but the massaging of the tight muscles!
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Don't confuse the scam that is chiro with the legitimate medical intervention of physiotherapy.
 
Arf9999 it must suck to be you. Being so narrow minded has to really suck. People are capable of far more powerful things than the mundane things we do in the physical realm. By denying that you are just denying your own potential abilities and insulting yourself. How sad.
 
Sensorei said:
Arf9999 it must suck to be you. Being so narrow minded has to really suck. People are capable of far more powerful things than the mundane things we do in the physical realm. By denying that you are just denying your own potential abilities and insulting yourself. How sad.
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On the contrary, it must suck to be so gullible that you'll believe every snake-oil salesman that pitches his tent. I am definitely not denying my potential abilities... I have a healthy understanding of them. I don't believe in fairy tales, like you obviously do.

If you can find any double blind clinical tests that indicate that these "alternative" treatments work, please enlighten me. Until then, forgive me if I ignore your credulous rantings.
 
I don't care what you believe, I'm just glad I know better and have experienced 1st hand stuff you claim is fairy tales. I have been able to see auras since I was a kid and to me its completely normal. You don't have to touch someone with your physical body to heal them. I have used Qi/Chi whatever you wanna call it before I even knew what it was. Anyone who has been for Pranic healing has experienced this. You've obviously never bothered trying anything like it. You are the only one at a loss.
 
I'm not sure if you're deluded or just defending a source of income. Whatever, we obviously have different points of view. I'm of the opinion that these scams are harmful.

BTW: If my child told me that he could see auras, I'd be visiting a neurologist pretty damn soon. Seeing as it is a symptom of epilepsy and all.
 
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