RIP Charlie Kirk

Slckrck said:
Family guy....yup that's all he was.

Wow some people seriously lack common sense. No wonder the world is as fokked as it is.

No words indeed.
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TIL that if you disagree with someone, that guy is now the same as mass murderers.

I didn't agree with his religious views btw. Don't see me celebrating in the streets.

Indeed, no wonder the world is fokked...
 
Nerfherder said:
Well then we never really have freedom of speech then do we...

We can protect from censorship but we can't actually protect you from others reacting to your speech.
Hell... there are about a billion people who would stone me for the things I have said on here, so I won't really ever be able to voice those opinions will I ?
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Depends how strongly do you hold those views?.....Nick Fuentes is a racist, he holds those views despite the potential consequences. Candice Owens hates Israel she stands by her convictions despite the potential consequences..... What about you Nerf?
 
Pitbull said:
His spine was severed with that impact.

When I saw the video I knew he was dead. Apart from the blood which spewed out. He was instantly "Knocked out". He didn't take a hit to the head so the only other logical thing is his neck/spine was hit.
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Yip, the arms curling up like that are an indication that it was over already.

That was one of the worst things I have ever seen (on video).
 
Slckrck said:
Depends how strongly do you hold those views?.....Nick Fuentes is a racist, he holds those views despite the potential consequences. Candice Owens hates Israel she stands by her convictions despite the potential consequences..... What about you Nerf?
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I shift constantly - so will probably take more flack for that.

Even this has shifted my opinion on the world a bit.
 
Slckrck said:
Family guy....yup that's all he was.

Wow some people seriously lack common sense. No wonder the world is as fokked as it is.

No words indeed.
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Your 'logic" and attitude are a big part of why the world is as fokked as it is.

You're just completely oblivious to it in your own little bubble of self.
 
Mariner said:
Centrism shifts. What was centrist 100 years ago is no longer so. He used facts, logic and critical thinking. Those cannot be defined using an Overton window.
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You talking about Charlie Kirk ?
He founded a lobby group to promote conservative values. That's not centrist.
You can accuse him of a lot, but not being on the fence.
 
Slckrck said:
He used strawman arguments, fallacies and contrarianism. Not factually based arguments, logic or critical thinking......but that's My opinion and just like you I have a right to have them.
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Yet his opponents couldn't call those out or beat him with logic, facts or critical thinking?
 
Slckrck said:
Why shouldn't it?
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Because maturity tells you that when you're proven wrong, you should re-evaluate your thinking. Its what good schools try to instil using debate. The loser doesn't shoot or beat up the winner. Our education system needs a reboot.
 
Mike Hoxbig said:
TIL that if you disagree with someone, that guy is now the same as mass murderers.

I didn't agree with his religious views btw. Don't see me celebrating in the streets.

Indeed, no wonder the world is fokked...
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Well, isn't that the extremist world we live in today?..... everybody that doesn't agree with you is evil?

Also can we stop projecting onto people what they didn't say or don't advocate for or defend?.....that would be nice.
 
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What does this have to do with this thread?
 
Nerfherder said:
Thanks - ill save this for when they come for your guns.

Kirk made an unapologetic platform on the right to bare arms... and he died at the hands of some one exercising that right.
I feel for him and his family but there is an irony in that.

Guns don't make you bulletproof.

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There's a difference between baring arms in order to defend one's self and family vs. assassination. One is a right and one isn't. This isn't complex stuff.
 
Nerfherder said:
From my POV yes.
What if that opinion is about the genocide of your people ?
Charlie had strong opinions on both Ukraine and Gaza.

I have strong opinions on people who use violence as an ends to a means... but what of those who condone it ?
His opinion was that the people of Gaza asked for the violence that is being inflicted on them...
So perhaps it's understandable that someone from Gaza might have a disagreement with him ?
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I already said that a call for violence against a person or a group should get you blocked or banned on social media.

Don't compare Gaza and Muslims to the Christian belief system.
All non-Muslims are worse than pigs and deserve death according to their holy book.

You are comparing apples to pears.
 
Mariner said:
Because maturity tells you that when you're proven wrong, you should re-evaluate your thinking. Its what good schools try to instil using debate. The loser doesn't shoot or beat up the winner. Our education system needs a reboot.
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Kirk wasn't just a commentator. He was a surrogate for the right.....and That's why he was killed, not for his personality, his debating skills.....but his alignment with what the left has deemed evil and the right has deemed justifiable. From MAGA (codename for white supremacy) to religious intolerance and the gender debate. That's what lead to his death.

The man wasn't an island on his own. He represented something that the murderers saw as worth killing over.

Which IMO is the most deplorable reasoning that can be attempted to justify murder.
 
Insint said:
I already said that a call for violence against a person or a group should get you blocked or banned on social media.

Don't compare Gaza and Muslims to the Christian belief system.
All non-Muslims are worse than pigs and deserve death according to their holy book.

You are comparing apples to pears.
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So you're advocating for censorship in special circumstances?

On the topic of Muslims and Christians..... What's your opinion of Jews and their religion's views on Christianity?
 
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