SA Guilds - 2010

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I stay mostly in EU guilds and been only playing for about 2years now, but have to admit didn't realise there is SOOOOOOOOO much politics in one game like WOW ^_^, specially if you take into account the % SA guys playing, though we would stick more together. But then again was never part of a progression guild, as Im having hard times raiding Mon- Fri, I pref Fri-sunday ^_^ So I'm just a casual player, don't know what goes into managing a raiding guild, or being part of.
 
Who R you Lowjack? Speak up.

4. LOl. trying to make me feel bad? ppfpt. 15th on dps, but learn to look at the bigger picture. My uptime was much lower(died for the cause in the fight), my GS is 200 lower than the other hunter, and my dps was still more than his. Get to LK first and see the fight and then comment if my performance was good. RL in Fleetwood is happy - -nuff said.
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Nee *** man. You guys need to come for lessons. Hunter DPS of 6000k DPS in your gear?
 
Furyk, you left out the part of where he made his app to join Fleetwood days before Bortar made the Topic for the vote to allow KJ and Gar back in rofl.

Also remember when we where in RE together, he told us that his "friend" is also using his account to play his shaman, and that his "friend" is joining RS with the shaman, not him rofl.
 
Furyk, you left out the part of where he made his app to join Fleetwood days before Bortar made the Topic for the vote to allow KJ and Gar back in rofl.

Also remember when we where in RE together, he told us that his "friend" is also using his account to play his shaman, and that his "friend" is joining RS with the shaman, not him rofl.

OoOh and Nobi joins the fray.....

Yap made the app, because, let me quote from my post "BUT the big thing is, Kiljoy is a friend of Conack, so I saw that him coming back is a done deal… Voting was a shadow veil." Read Nobi Read. So I am guilty as charged, I made up my mind to leave a week before the voting was done because Kiljoy was coming back.peroid.

I wonder when the other gatgabbas(thats is per my post, Syldorian and DS) will join the flame to support you.
 
Well yesterday I applied to a South African guild for the first time after raiding solid for 4 years under EU guilds, and one thing most guilds keep forgetting... your members are your ambassadors for your guild. The manner in which they portray themselves to the general wow population has a direct impact on potential raiders applying to their ranks.

There are certain South African guilds I would NEVER consider due to one or two of their members being just plain arrogant and idiotic. Now flaming one another can be great up to a point, but remember, the WoW raiding community in South Africa is not that big. In a way I am damn glad I never went through all this drama and guild breakups mentioned earlier in the threads. Sadly when it comes to WoW, friendships and guild commitments can clash big time... Being a GM / RL is a big challenge, and I would personally never like to be in that position.

WoW people sometimes tend to forget there is real people behind those toons ...

This man speaks the truth and I completely agree with him. Since I left the SA guild scene on TH, I was in other other guild semi South African, also had some politics. Left those hordies behind too and moved on to Alliance on another realm. Hell leaving the SA guild scene was a good choice, the European guilds have their own things to deal with too but I can tell you this, those guilds are way more stable and actually fun for a change. Unlike Pornolio I unfortunately did go through guild breakups and politics and I think that was a mistake.
 
Oki i dotn know the full story here but i love my Guild Apex on Quel Thalas they a raiding guild but they awesome and its a mainly SA guild but its fun and hardly any arguments or people bashing i dunno maybey i got lucky
 
Hi Grolm.

Quite disappointing seeing you fling mud here.

I had no beef with you or your decision to quit UFII. In fact I kinda respected it, some people value progression very highly and I am sure many have struggled with difficult choices a couple of times. But to speak about loyalty and friendship and commitment while slandering the guild you were a part of for so long on a public forum isn’t exactly respect inspiring.

You used KJ's and Garn's rejoining as an excuse to purpler pastures. Nice Epixx Grolm. Grats on downing the Lich King Grolm. You rock! (Seriously grats to Fleetwood though)

Favoratism? Really? Name a name or two and a potential better player in that guys spot? Oh wait we have had only so many people to work with. DC's, limited recruits and 9 hours a week for progression tends to have one progress slower than other topnotch, hardcore international guilds. Always whining about people DC'ing and not doing their part BUT NEVER OFFERING A SOLUTION.

Still we make it work. Doing pretty well as a SA guild with bonds that go deeper than epixx.

Conack isn't even one of KJ's so-called uber friends. Nor was he Garn’s at that particular point in time. Neither am I a RL buddy of either of them. You could have stayed on happily like many did ignoring KJ/Garn.

So dont come with this loyalty bull****. You don’t understand the meaning of the word. Remember QQing about not getting a ZA spot back in the day (RE) while at the same time raiding with your shaman in RS? Now posting all buddy like on our forums while going at this in the same breath?
What a two faced spoilt little bitch you really are.

Regards
Furyk

Eina!

Your just hurt I left. I recall you whisper me WTF. And yes, I had to use this forum to post. People must know what happening in the E-peen world of wow and UF2.

How can I ignore KJ? What does it say of a guild to take a ninja looter lier back into its fold? No way.

Yap - -I recall those RS days.I remember not getting ZA spots because your close circle of friend made the runs, thus I switches to the shammie and went to see content.

As for epix - -its not the issue anymore - -they come easy. Fleetwood is about spending 1 night in ICC25 and clearing it. Not waste time and get frustrated with ppl dc'ing, not doing their jobs and dragging buddies through raids

I am offended for being called 2 faced - -that's a lie- -I am a bitch and spoilt rotten, but not 2 faced. Comon buddy oll pal.
 
This man speaks the truth and I completely agree with him. Since I left the SA guild scene on TH, I was in other other guild semi South African, also had some politics. Left those hordies behind too and moved on to Alliance on another realm. Hell leaving the SA guild scene was a good choice, the European guilds have their own things to deal with too but I can tell you this, those guilds are way more stable and actually fun for a change. Unlike Pornolio I unfortunately did go through guild breakups and politics and I think that was a mistake.

Tinuva -- didn't you have a rogue in the OLD OLD days what was that guild called? We played with Salgarba, Ronor, Ztrike and such? just before TBC it broke up.....
 
OoOh and Nobi joins the fray.....

Yap made the app, because, let me quote from my post "BUT the big thing is, Kiljoy is a friend of Conack, so I saw that him coming back is a done deal… Voting was a shadow veil." Read Nobi Read. So I am guilty as charged, I made up my mind to leave a week before the voting was done because Kiljoy was coming back.peroid.

I wonder when the other gatgabbas(thats is per my post, Syldorian and DS) will join the flame to support you.

Just a quick correction here, Kiljoy is certainly no friend of mine... quite the opposite infact. Amazing how people come up with these things they believe for fact. I was asked to let him come back for months and stonefast refused. He ninjalooted and i won't have any of that in our guild.

Half a year or so passed and a number of members asked if i wouldn't reconsider. I was still not convinced - [why take the risk of bringing back QQ?], but as a last resort of mediation offered that the guild can decide with a forum vote. If the guild wants him back, then so be it - it's on the their hands, not mine.

The guild voted and the majority wanted him back. I can readily supply a screenshot of all that, aswell as the hatemail i received from Kiljoy.

Same goes for the majority of accusations here.

Honestly, if there was some truth in all the slander then i'd have posted in defence, linked some screenshots and explained exactly what happened (btw - I still have a backup of the RS officers forum, Misfire) but it's pointless.

PS. If anything, Kiljoy has not set a foot skew since then and thusfar proved my misgivings ungrounded.
 
European guilds have their own things to deal with too but I can tell you this, those guilds are way more stable and actually fun for a change.

I can tell you a story that's quite the opposite D. ;)
 
Well I've been meaning to do this for long time.

Furyk

I want to apologize to you for my sudden gquit way back in RS. I was then quite a fiery player, short temper and not one to take any slacking by players in a raid lightly. You see, I have raided in a top US guild for 2 years where learned to be extremely active and the guild demanded only the best. Grolm eventually persuaded me to join you guys. That one evening, and I remember it well, you did not pick me to be a tank and I over reacted and I misunderstood your intentions.

I then hastily quit where I then joined Natural Perfection.

Anyways, you were always a good oke and I never got around to apologize to you for that time.

Till later
 
You have your idea stuck in your thick head of what (would have) happened in UFII and you let future events dictate your actions.

Your signature is testament to your hypocrisy: It was a democratic vote that decided KJ's return. The People's voice was heard. The people wanted him back. You mentioned something about only raiders should be allowed to vote. There is a large social and PvP element to any guild. Seeing as how KJ was asking to come back as a social, your "point" is once again moo.

As for the whole alcohol thing. Everybody has had too much to drink and has made bad decisions due to that and everybody has used alcohol abuse as an excuse for something. Probably even you? Again hypocrisy, from somebody who comes across as a borderline alcoholic in his Guild posts.

As for the whole friend thing. Maybe if you weren't such a a-hole you would have in-game friends and get raid spots seeing as how it's all about "a close circle of friend(s)".

I think I know who you are Grolm, you are Cheaky Watson. Hero of the fight against the "3rd Force" running SA Rugby and SA WoW. Fighting the good fight of getting other previously disadvantaged WoW player more raid spots. Does your son play WoW as well? Probably still in UFII and gets nauseous every time he puts on his guild tabard?

As for epix - -its not the issue anymore - -they come easy. Fleetwood is about spending 1 night in ICC25 and clearing it. Not waste time and get frustrated with ppl dc'ing, not doing their jobs and dragging buddies through raids

Only a matter of time before Telkom acts up and Fleetwood kicks you to the curb for exactly the same reasons...

Clearing ICC25 in one night is great stuff, but what about the other 6 days?

It seems as though you are bored and lonely and a safe bet is that you are going to stick your tail between your legs and try and worm your way back into a SA guild as soon as Cataclysm hits.
 
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Telkom will definitely come back, probebly also a reason I do not do raiding, hate to let a guild hang due to line problems.
 
Only a matter of time before Telkom acts up and Fleetwood kicks you to the curb for exactly the same reasons...

Clearing ICC25 in one night is great stuff, but what about the other 6 days?

It seems as though you are bored and lonely and a safe bet is that you are going to stick your tail between your legs and try and worm your way back into a SA guild as soon as Cataclysm hits.

Nah, they'll kick him out because he's a huntard gimping his DPS by still playing Survival in ICC =P
Real hunters play Marksmanship!!!
 
Yeah i must try some MM, but it feels so boring....

What, being in the top of half (if not top) of the damage meters is boring?

I can promise you, MM is much more challenging than Survival and more fun as well! You probably didn't get the hang of it and gave up to soon like most...
 
You have your idea stuck in your thick head of what (would have) happened in UFII and you let future events dictate your actions.

Your signature is testament to your hypocrisy: It was a democratic vote that decided KJ's return. The People's voice was heard. The people wanted him back. You mentioned something about only raiders should be allowed to vote. There is a large social and PvP element to any guild. Seeing as how KJ was asking to come back as a social, your "point" is once again moo.
UF was a raiding guild, so raiders vote should have more weight. PVP bha there is maybe 3 arena teams and the For the Horde does not count as pvp.

As for the whole alcohol thing. Everybody has had too much to drink and has made bad decisions due to that and everybody has used alcohol abuse as an excuse for something. Probably even you? Again hypocrisy, from somebody who comes across as a borderline alcoholic in his Guild posts.
Who said i drinkz?*hic*

As for the whole friend thing. Maybe if you weren't such a a-hole you would have in-game friends and get raid spots seeing as how it's all about "a close circle of friend(s)".
If I where an A-hole, Kiljoy would be my best buddy......

I think I know who you are Grolm, you are Cheaky Watson. Hero of the fight against the "3rd Force" running SA Rugby and SA WoW. Fighting the good fight of getting other previously disadvantaged WoW player more raid spots. Does your son play WoW as well? Probably still in UFII and gets nauseous every time he puts on his guild tabard?
Dont get Cheaky with me, I'll pull a Puke Watson on you! Didn't he /spit on the SA ruby "tabbard"?

Only a matter of time before Telkom acts up and Fleetwood kicks you to the curb for exactly the same reasons...

Clearing ICC25 in one night is great stuff, but what about the other 6 days?

It seems as though you are bored and lonely and a safe bet is that you are going to stick your tail between your legs and try and worm your way back into a SA guild as soon as Cataclysm hits.

Well if I get kicked ill HAVE to come back and grovel, untill then let the PEWPEW continue
 
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