SA Politics Thread Part 11: The GNU Normal

[thestaggy]

Don't disagree on that, but there is a difference between the ANC dying and the ANC collapsing.

The broad church is faltering in the extreme atm and the competing ideologies within that space are fighting with each other. The ANC as it is currently is changing, and very likely to start splintering in the future as well.

The frustrating thing though is that when the ANC does splinter, it tends to just shed more extreme versions of itself (see the EFF and MK), when South Africa needs to move a little more in the opposite direction if it wants a future.

If the ANC would shed a 10/15% Mbeki-esque party (what COPE supposedly promised), that would be a game changer.

 

[Vrotappel]

Race laws belong to @Vrotappel, you're confusing your forum members.

145 race laws.

 

[Vrotappel]

 

[Sideshow Bob]

When Zuma eventually dies, the MK will die with him and their voters will shuffle back to the ANC.

Sadly, the ANC is far from dead.

Yip - what do you guys see ?

 

[Mike Hoxbig]

If the ANC would shed a 10/15% Mbeki-esque party (what COPE supposedly promised), that would be a game changer.

The problem is that calibre of people no longer exists in the ANC. The worst parts of the party have completely taken over...

 

[R13...]

The problem is that calibre of people no longer exists in the ANC. The worst parts of the party have completely taken over...

Yeah they opened the door to Zuma and the vermin crawled in. Zuma proved that anyone can aspire to high office and you can steal without risk of jail. Worst case is you get fired, lose some of the loot but can just come back in via another backdoor.

 

[Inertia]

Get your mod friends to warn me then. I am willing to wait for 48 hours.

And BEE apartheid has added 3 more racist laws recently. You didn't get the updates in brackenfell WA group ?

Your punishment for having only 2 jokes will be much more severe than any ANC minister can fathom.

WATCH OUT

 

[TheChamp]

Hope it's not his mother, things like this make you lose hope in humanity.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1943638776825126945

 

[TheChamp]

I wonder where the money or cows will go. Surely the general can't accept them without running foul or ethical guidelines?

Take them to his father's house.

 

[Bewlen]

That's exactly what I am talking about, those he had KO'd are still in denial even today, that's the effect he has on people, soundly defeat them, yet still leave them feeling good about themselves.

ANC membership decline deepens as middle class retreats

Newly disclosed figures show that total ANC membership in good standing fell from 691,381 in August 2022 to 494,146 by October 2024. This is a loss of nearly 200,000 members, or 29%

 

[Unhappy1]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1943563973455905141

It is possible. But that means electoral reform. And funnily enough, it was one of the recommendations from the ZONDO COMMISSION.

This is radical but maybe vote for a different party? I mean its not like its been a mystery who the president will be for whichever party you vote for.

 

[TheChamp]

ANC membership decline deepens as middle class retreats

Quality over quantity is what the Liberation Movement aspires for.

 

[ToxicBunny]

This is radical but maybe vote for a different party? I mean its not like its been a mystery who the president will be for whichever party you vote for.

But DA RACIST!

 

[Unhappy1]

Yip - what do you guys see ?

View attachment 1833885

A spreadsheet made by a drunk person?

 

[Bewlen]

Quality over quantity is what the Liberation Movement aspires for.

Ohhhhhhhhh, yes of course.... the 17% loss in votes in the past national election makes perfect sense now

 

[Unhappy1]

Quality over quantity is what the Liberation Movement aspires for.

And now they have neither.

 

[Sideshow Bob]

A spreadsheet made by a drunk person?

Inshallah, alcohol is haram for me.

 

[ToxicBunny]

Quality over quantity is what the Liberation Movement aspires for.

Good that you used the word aspire there.. since the NewNP has neither quality or quantity anymore.

 

[Unhappy1]

Inshallah, alcohol is haram for me.

Logical spreadsheets also haram for you?

 

[Sideshow Bob]

Good that you used the word aspire there.. since the NewNP has neither quality or quantity anymore.

NewNP ? What did I miss ?