SA Politics Thread Part 11: The GNU Normal

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South Africans don't mind presenting an ID everywhere, we are very happy to carry them to the clinic all the time if that is what's needed.
We don't? Speak for yourself on that one. I don't carry my ID and if some random asks for it they will get told to fsck off.

But it is irrelevant, Id or not you cannot deny someone medical care because you believe the xenophobic horseshyte being fed to you.
 
It's clear we aren't going to find a middle ground here so I'll leave you with Section 27 of the Constitution:
If a criminal commits a crime and is injured, they are taken to hospital, under police guard, treated as soon as they are well, they are promptly arrested and thrown in a cell.

There is nothing different between this criminal and an illegal foreigner roaming the street. Let them get their medication, those who are incapacitated can sleep on the hospital bed, chained the way criminals are, as soon as they get well, arrest them.

There is no contradiction here, the government must help patriotic South Africans or patriotic South Africans will take matters in their own hands, and we will never be shy about that, kukithi la.
 
If a criminal commits a crime and is injured, they are taken to hospital, under police guard, treated as soon as they are well, they are promptly arrested and thrown in a cell.

There is nothing different between this criminal and an illegal foreigner roaming the street. Let them get their medication, those who are incapacitated can sleep on the hospital bed, chained the way criminals are, as soon as they get well, arrest them.

There is no contradiction here, the government must help patriotic South Africans or patriotic South Africans will take matters in their own, and we will never be shy about that, kukithi la.
Yeah they do, into a cell of their own.

I will honestly say I'm surprised though, I thought you were smarter than to fall for this very obvious bullshyte from your GLM and it's cohorts.
 
We don't? Speak for yourself on that one. I don't carry my ID and if some random asks for it they will get told to fsck off.

But it is irrelevant, Id or not you cannot deny someone medical care because you believe the xenophobic horseshyte being fed to you.
Then let the police and immigration come and do their job, because if they do that they solve the problem people are crying about.
 
We don't? Speak for yourself on that one. I don't carry my ID and if some random asks for it they will get told to fsck off.

But it is irrelevant, Id or not you cannot deny someone medical care because you believe the xenophobic horseshyte being fed to you.
It isn't even close comparing a citizen having ID and a legal foreigner who "is supposed to carry their papers all the time".
 
I am curious, are those who are invited to the National Dialogue paid, and how much? I can understand transport and accommodation, but what are they getting by participating and engaging socially?

Also, I never carry my ID; only my driving license card.
 
There seem to be some interesting parallels in UK & SA. Reform party seem to be surging on anti-migrant rhetoric and it seems be picking here.

In UK, media & politicians were fairly quiet when thousands of British girls were being groomed & raped. Also Boris Jobs for pals/PPE contracts during covid - not a peep.

Here also legal citizen Zuma and most of ANC sold country many times over to their "foreigners" and locals but hey, that is all good coz they are our people, legal citizens and sons of the soil.

Of course illegal migration is issue in both places but it seems easy to motivate people to hate illegals or even legal migrants. New kind of bread and circuses.
 
There seem to be some interesting parallels in UK & SA. Reform party seem to be surging on anti-migrant rhetoric and it seems be picking here.

In UK, media & politicians were fairly quiet when thousands of British girls were being groomed & raped. Also Boris Jobs for pals/PPE contracts during covid - not a peep.

Here also legal citizen Zuma and most of ANC sold country many times over to their "foreigners" and locals but hey, that is all good coz they are our people, legal citizens and sons of the soil.

Of course illegal migration is issue in both places but it seems easy to motivate people to hate illegals or even legal migrants. New kind of bread and circuses.
Under the circumstances, what do you think would happen if they were not motivated to hate migrants?

Would they just accept things as they are, arrive in the queue at 5am and leave at 5pm and be totally cool about it? Like if there was no Dudula motivating them to hate migrants they would be just fine?
 
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