SA Politics Thread Part 11: The GNU Normal

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R13... said:
Tarrifs are happening regardless of what we do. All countries will just have to gird their loins until the Trump madness ends, nothing to be done for it.
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Was a chance to do something about it. Except someone wasted the time completely
 
R13... said:
Tarrifs are happening regardless of what we do. All countries will just have to gird their loins until the Trump madness ends, nothing to be done for it.
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There is lots to be done for it, the rate of tariffs are not set in stone. Having a 10% tariff with the US rather than a 30% one will make a huge difference to our economy and global competitivity.
 
Major Boredom said:
Was a chance to do something about it. Except someone wasted the time completely
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I know you're blind to reality but Mexico, Canada, the EU, Japan and Korea have all been negotiating with the Trump admin since the first threats and they too have received pink slips from Orange land. What's a country like South Africa got on those? A country who must deal with an already hostile Trump administration?
 
R13... said:
I know you're blind to reality but Mexico, Canada, the EU, Japan and Korea have all been negotiating with the Trump admin since the first threats and they too have received pink slips from Orange land. What's a country like South Africa got on those? A country who must deal with an already hostile Trump administration?
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This
10 or 20% is better than 30 or 40%
This could be up to a R400billion rand hit at worst case. Arguably SA will be in recession once this start.
The worst is the ton of jobs that are going to be lost. Most of them will be ANC voters.
On one side I feel for them. On the other you get what you vote for.
You seem to have a very blase attitude ?
You getting paid to minimise the PR ?
Im still wondering what other suprises the ANC has been quiet on and hiding
 
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WELL, THIS IS VERY VERY ****ING REASSURING...
  • Minister in the Presidency Khumbudzo Ntshavheni assured South Africans of their safety despite potential coup risks, with measures already in place to mitigate threats.
  • On Sunday, President Cyril Ramaphosa launched a judicial inquiry into SAPS graft cases and placed Police Minister Senzo Mchunu on special leave.
  • Ntshavheni said no security threats had been identified for the G20 Leaders’ Summit, and South Africa’s security cluster remains “solid”.
In a shocking revelation on Tuesday afternoon, Minister in the Presidency Khumbudzo Ntshavheni revealed that the security cluster had identified potential risks of a coup d‘état.
However, Ntshavheni assured the nation of the country’s sovereign integrity, that citizens are safe, and that the cluster is monitoring the matter closely.


“There is a potential risk of a coup d‘état. We have identified it and put measures in place to mitigate against it. So that’s why we say to South Africans that there will not be anyone attempting to do a coup in South Africa. In the last few days or in the last few weeks, there has not been anyone attempting to do a coup in South Africa,” said Ntshavheni.

However, she said, this does not mean that people are not planning one.
Addressing a media briefing in Cape Town on Tuesday, where she unveiled the latest National Security Strategy and National Security Estimates, Ntshavheni also backed President Cyril Ramaphosa’s decision to institute a judicial commission of inquiry into the SA Police Service (SAPS).
READ | Presidency clarifies Ramaphosa’s decision to establish judicial inquiry into SAPS
The minister stressed that Ramaphosa’s actions were grounded in constitutional provisions.

She dismissed concerns over the safety of KwaZulu-Natal police commissioner Lieutenant-General Nhlanhla Mkhwanazi, stating that he does not require protection.
This comes amid growing protests in support of Mkhwanazi after his recent exposé of graft allegations in the SAPS.
“On the political parties that are protesting: I don’t know why they’re protesting because one thing I know is that General Nhlanhla Mkhwanazi does not need anyone’s protection. We need to understand the decision of the president.
Ntshavheni said:
The president has to uphold the provisions of the Constitution. He has to ensure that there is due process. It’s not just about the allegations made by General Mkwanazi.

On Sunday, Ramaphosa announced a probe into Mkhwanazi’s explosive allegations about the inner workings of the country’s security cluster.
He told the country that Professor Firoz Cachalia would take over as the acting police minister, while Mchunu was placed on a leave of absence pending the outcomes of the inquiry.
On Tuesday, News24 reported that deputy national police commissioner for crime detection, Lieutenant-General Shandrack Sibiya, was asked to take a leave of absence following Mkhwanazi’s allegations about links to criminal syndicates and interference in politically motivated murder investigations.
READ | Lieutenant General Shadrack Sibiya asked to take leave of absence amid Mkhwanazi claims
Nshavheni said the country’s security cluster had a mandate to decontaminate the criminal justice system in South Africa.
“We are aware of the challenges that are there, and that’s why there is a priority that deals with that, to say decontaminate the criminal justice system of criminality, corruption, and all that. There is that mandate that has been given by the National Intelligence Co-ordinating Committee.”
Ntshavheni also confirmed there was no threat to delegates attending the G20 Leaders’ Summit in November this year.
“We do all the assessments in time, and we mitigate them, and there have not been any threats coming out in South Africa. The safety and security of the delegates of the G20 is guaranteed.”

Ntshavheni said South Africa has successfully held other meetings, including the 15th BRICS Summit in August 2023.
Asked whether the country was safe in light of the recent revelations, Ntshavheni said it was Ramaphosa’s responsibility to ensure he gets to the root of Mkhwanazi’s allegations.
That’s why he announced that the reports will go to Parliament and to the judiciary, so that we can then deal with the things that have to be dealt with. Unless we want to join the lynch mob of lynching one person over the other and taking sides without facts.

As a head of state, Ntshavheni said Ramaphosa was responsible for following due processes.
“If he doesn’t follow due process, the next moment, I’ll take a podium and accuse one of you of something else, and then there must be action. You’ll take a podium and accuse me of something else, and there must be action, and that’s not new.
“People must be given an opportunity to clarify themselves, but it’s more than clarifying themselves, it’s about finding, dealing with, and addressing the root cause of the problem as identified in the National Intelligence Estimate to say we need to decontaminate the criminal justice system in its entirety of corruption and criminality so that we can then deal with crime in this country.”

Ntshavheni said Ramaphosa had established strict timelines for providing intermediate reports in three to six months.
The minister also denied claims that the government was not implementing the Zondo Commission report recommendations.
“Even last month, we provided a report on the work about progress with implementing the Zondo Commission recommendations.”
To those who believe there will be delays, she said, “There won’t be delays”.
Asked if there was any likelihood of another July 2021 unrest, Ntshavheni asked, “How many times since the 2021 July uprising have they tried to do mass mobilisations, mass uprisings? They’ve tried, but as the Natjoints (National Joint Operational and Intelligence Structure) and the security cluster, we have managed to deal with those effectively, and they’ve come to nought.”

Ntshavheni assured the nation that the “security cluster is solid”.
“The security cluster is able to do its work. There are men and women in various capacities who continue to work as patriots for the protection of this country, and there are men and women in the intelligence services or the intelligence community who continue to work to make sure that this country is safe.
“There are men and women in the defence and police service who work for the greater benefit of this country, so if any challenges confront us, we are a resilient nation. We’ve always found solutions and we’ve addressed them.”
She said the cluster was aware that South Africans were concerned about their safety.
“Because people are worried about national security, that’s why the president has given shorter timelines to the commission of inquiry to report and to make recommendations whilst he’s doing his work. That must give South Africans the comfort that is security, and it is a priority for this government,” she added.
Ntshavheni said the State Security Agency had released the National Security Strategy and the National Security Estimates so that the public could discuss whether enough was being done to make the country safe.
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