SA service delivery exceptional - Zuma

Bageloo said:
Actually, I posted an article from an independent body (SAIRR). Don't care much what Zuma says but when someone else says the same, I have to take notice.
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Didn't SAIRR publish something equally nonsensical and contentious not so long ago? I think they're losing the plot.


*goes google*


let's see...

Johannesburg - The dwindling numbers of public schools was not necessarily cause for alarm, the SA Institute of Race Relations (SAIRR) said on Thursday.
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Right. Schools are overcrowded, so the fact that there are fewer of them isn't an issue

The SA Institute of Race Relations has called for the suspension of all the police officers involved in yesterday's shootings at the Lonmin mine in Marikana.

The Institute says it's clear that the police were not properly equipped to handle the crowd.
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Wait - they weren't equipped, so suspend them?


I respectfully submit that the SAIRR is completely out of touch with reality.
 
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Bageloo said:
Actually, I posted an article from an independent body (SAIRR). Don't care much what Zuma says but when someone else says the same, I have to take notice.
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Now is that not an real achievement, you excelled in yourself today by finding and posting that "miss"information. ;) So you believe the bullshiite in spite of what reality suggests? Explain why all the recent service delivery strike issuess then, I am sure you also believe that was made up or just unwarranted hey?
 
wily me said:
Now is that not an real achievement, you excelled in yourself today by finding and posting that "miss"information. ;) So you believe the bullshiite in spite of what reality suggests? Explain why all the recent service delivery strike issuess then, I am sure you also believe that was made up or just unwarranted hey?
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The SAIRR did explain the reason for service delivery protests in the article.
He said service delivery protests across the country were not a sign of the government's failure to deliver.

Instead, the successes of service delivery had raised high expectations which could not be met because of shortcomings in the school system and labour market.
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So yes education and unemployment remain big challenges but that shouldn't detract from the achievements elsewhere such as in housing, sanitation, electricity provision etc.
 
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Bageloo said:
The SAIRR did explain the reason for service delivery protests in the article.


So yes education and unemployment remain big challenges but that shouldn't detract from the achievements elsewhere such as in housing, sanitation, electricity provision etc.
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Sanitation and electricity provision?

Eskom constantly telling us to turn stuff off cos they can't cope
Raw sewerage flowing down streets, into rivers and dams...

All that's happened is the "visible" delivery has been done - ie, wires into people's houses - with ****all done behind the scenes to ensure the sustainability of the infrastructure.
 
Mila said:
Just Below your post. That is the reason he says it. He has mushrooms that believe every word he says.
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...and there are equally many more mushrooms who will gladly believe the contrary in spite of data showing otherwise...:wtf:
 
Ahh, so we have a pro ANC ..... in our midst. Sure there will always be made up excuses like with the educational books fiasco, whether to believe them is the challenge which I take note off that you do not have a problem with (believing), You will believe any excuse the ANC spindoctors can cough up wont you?

Now all I want is that someone must explain and defend the ANC corruption and theft, then my day will be made. ;)
 
Bageloo said:
...and there are equally many more mushrooms who will gladly believe the contrary in spite of data showing otherwise...:wtf:
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yes. We know we did better than Zimbabwe. We should have a party. Why not take the sanitation's money this time?
 
Sinbad said:
Sanitation and electricity provision?

Eskom constantly telling us to turn stuff off cos they can't cope
Raw sewerage flowing down streets, into rivers and dams...

All that's happened is the "visible" delivery has been done - ie, wires into people's houses - with ****all done behind the scenes to ensure the sustainability of the infrastructure.
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When was the last time you had load shedding... I know in my area it was 2008 which was more than 4 years ago. So please let's not harp on that because Eskom has since embarked on plans to commission more power stations that should come on line in the near future. So please give it a rest.
The cost of electricity has sky-rocketed though :o
 
wily me said:
Ahh, so we have a pro ANC ..... in our midst. Sure there will always be made up excuses like with the educational books fiasco, whether to believe them is the challenge which I take note off that you do not have a problem with (believing), You will believe any excuse the ANC spindoctors can cough up wont you?

Now all I want is that someone must explain and defend the ANC corruption and theft, then my day will be made. ;)
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I will not defend ANC's corruption and theft which is rife. You are baiting me to deviate from the topic at hand :D
Everyone knows that the statistics would have made for much better reading had it not been for the rampant corruption and theft.
 
Bageloo said:
Everyone knows that the statistics would have made for much better reading had it not been for the rampant corruption and theft.
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Exactly why we question the lie - you cannot trust a corrupt leader singing his own praises.

Remember even a broken clock is right twice a day.
 
Bageloo said:
When was the last time you had load shedding... I know in my area it was 2008 which was more than 4 years ago. So please let's not harp on that because Eskom has since embarked on plans to commission more power stations that should come on line in the near future. So please give it a rest.
The cost of electricity has sky-rocketed though :o
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We had load shedding this winter.

We are not disputing this has happened. Calling it service excellence is stupid.
Patching a plaster on everything and pissing the rest out on parties cars homes and holidays is not service delivery.

If all the money the ANC wasted was spent on service delivery and infrastructure we might have been able to agree with him.
 
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Bageloo said:
When was the last time you had load shedding... I know in my area it was 2008 which was more than 4 years ago. So please let's not harp on that because Eskom has since embarked on plans to commission more power stations that should come on line in the near future. So please give it a rest.
The cost of electricity has sky-rocketed though :o
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Power outages seem fairly frequent nowadays. My area had quite a few over the past year. Sure maybe it's not eskom capacity, perhaps it's city power's lack of maintenance- but I don't care whose fault it is, all I know is, no electricity. So yes, I'll harp. I'll harp a LOT. Where are the CONSEQUENCES for the useless ****ing morons who sabotaged our country by IGNORING eskom's requests for funding for infrastructure expansion back in 1998? When eskom presented a case showing that they had 10 years' worth of growth capacity left? Seems they were spot on. If the cANCer done then what they should have, then we'd never have had an issue. Instead they pissed the money away on BMWs and airplanes.
 
Sinbad said:
Power outages seem fairly frequent nowadays. My area had quite a few over the past year. Sure maybe it's not eskom capacity, perhaps it's city power's lack of maintenance- but I don't care whose fault it is, all I know is, no electricity. So yes, I'll harp. I'll harp a LOT. Where are the CONSEQUENCES for the useless ****ing morons who sabotaged our country by IGNORING eskom's requests for funding for infrastructure expansion back in 1998? When eskom presented a case showing that they had 10 years' worth of growth capacity left? Seems they were spot on. If the cANCer done then what they should have, then we'd never have had an issue. T
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I have inside info that said they did load shed the winter, they just did not say it was load shedding they called it maintenance.
Calling it loadshedding would get the people all pissed off again :D
 
Mila said:
I have inside info that said they did load shed the winter, they just did not say it was load shedding they called it maintenance.
Calling it loadshedding would get the people all pissed off again :D
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I have similar info.
 
Bageloo said:
Since when do you believe in what comes out of Malema's mouth ?

Our economical peers never had a systematic exclusion of the majority from the delivery of essential services. Therefore their service delivery improvement would be stable. Don't you think?
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So what you are saying is that we were able to compete with one hand tied behind our backs? But with two hands we should expect less? You must be a product of the post 94 SA education system.
 
Bageloo said:
When was the last time you had load shedding... I know in my area it was 2008 which was more than 4 years ago. So please let's not harp on that because Eskom has since embarked on plans to commission more power stations that should come on line in the near future. So please give it a rest.
The cost of electricity has sky-rocketed though :o
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Yes they frantically started embarking. Pity that only happened after the **** hit the fan, but I would venture a guess that it's because of apartheid that the demand for electricity increased since 94, how could anyone have guessed that would actually happen ?

And as you have mentioned they actually have the nerve to drive electricity prices through the roof, shifting the consequences of their incompetence onto the citizens.
 
abandonallhope said:
And as you have mentioned they actually have the nerve to drive electricity prices through the roof, shifting the consequences of their incompetence onto the citizens.
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What are the smelters paying for electricity nowadays? And I wonder if there's been a bit of a kickback there?
 
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