SA Software developer salaries vs The World

Is it really far cheaper to live here than in other countries? I mean we get taxed a lot, have to pay for our own security, medical aid, more expensive transportation (no decent public transport and very expensive cars) and so forth.
still cheaper in general yes, but "far" cheaper ... highly doubt it

I mean look at that US salary, more than triple the ZA one, and things sure as hell don't cost triple in the USA. In fact some things are substantially cheaper in USA like cars, seeing as they do not have an idiotic MIDP/APDP program that let's the car manufacturers milk citizens dry like we have in ZA.
 
It's more expensive to live in SA if you want to have the same lifestyle as the comparison countries. Since you need to pay for imported goods, private security, medical, and schooling.

If however you are willing to live like the majority of people in any of the countries on the list then compare its cost to majority of South Africans and then it'll be cheaper in SA. Though I'm not sure sure if you'll be happy to live like the majority of South Africans?
 
Urgh, they’re messing up the job titles names again. Software Engineer is the preferred term in the USA (not developer). Searching for this adds $20k base salary, sticking Senior adds another $20k, the there are stocks/bonuses, and many other titles (Staff Engineer, Primcipal Engineer, Distinguished Engineer, etc.). Taking this into account, the total comp is much higher than $72k on average, and more than 10x higher than this when you’re talking the top few percent or so.
 
TIL: that the average software developer earns R25k pm and not R45k
 
Besides the additional costs, amd taxes which as a percentage of salary are high in SA and start at a low threshold, a huge driver in these comparisons is the exchange rate.
8 years ago we were at R6/$ so R600k per $100k converted. Now you need R1.5m per $100k. Your SA salary inflation (not better job titles) wouldn't have kept up. It's likely it was R900k now at 4% official inflation.

That currency movement and impact on comparison salaries is a lot of what is driving unhappiness in the local job market.
 
Glassdoor has 79 software “developer” jobs in their sample. The US has over 100k samples (but over 250k Software engineer samples, and that’s excluding all the grades (another 250k for senior)).
 
Every few months, MyBroadband publishes articles like these.

The topic of working abroad isn't as clear as one would like. Though salaries are higher, the cost of living can be much higher as well, depending on the state/province and/or country. The tax one pays can also depend on the state/province in that country (E.g.: Canada has federal tax and provincial tax). That, and the process of moving seems like a costly one; it seems risky to move without any preparations made.
 
LOL! Amateur reporting..

Do a comparison of salary after comparable deductions... Medical, Pension, Security, Educating kids.

Another thing to look at is Career Mobility, Promotion prospects, personal growth etc
 
Is it really far cheaper to live here than in other countries? I mean we get taxed a lot, have to pay for our own security, medical aid, more expensive transportation (no decent public transport and very expensive cars) and so forth.
Private Medical cover is becoming more common in lots of most places (e.g. in my 8 years working as a professional in London, there was not one job where "BUPA" wasn't a Benefit). Medical aid is not really expensive in SA, unlike USA (albeit may or may not be included in "salary" figures)
Security - yes that is a quite uniquely South African expense, but come on, how much do you pay for ADT - less than 5,000/yr surely? (Ours is like 300/mo?)
Tax - structuring is important no matter the country, try not to be an employee!

Cars are not more expensive here really. A new car costs more yes, a used ca costs more, yes... But you see the real COST of owning a car is the difference between those two. In the UK once a car is 10 years old its almost worthless, in SA a Polo just doesnt depreciate at all!

What's cheaper in SA - home help, cleaners, eating out, booze... Sunshine. Clear star filled nights (due to load shedding :))... Getting away with crimes... Life... So yes things are cheaper in SA too

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Whats cheaper in SA - home help, cleaners, eating out, booze... Sunshine. Clear star filled nights (due to load shedding :))
and the biggest one of them all, houses. Houses are cheap in SA.
 
and the biggest one of them all, houses. Houses are cheap in SA.

How about the mortgage rates ? I’m paying 3.99% which is higher than normal because my residency was less than 10 years when I took out mortgage
 
How about the mortgage rates ? I’m paying 3.99% which is higher than normal because my residency was less than 10 years when I took out mortgage
It depends how you want to assess it.

If a R1m house costs you R7k per month in payments at 7%, is it cheaper or more expensive than paying R6k per month on a house in New Zealand that's R2m at 3% interest?
Your monthly payments may be lower because of interest but the price and debt were far higher.
In my assessment of things I evaluate both the total price and the monthly payments. Im buying not renting a house...
 
Your monthly payments may be lower because of interest but the price and debt were far higher.
That’s a win though - you end up owning a more expensive house.
 
More valuable you mean. More expensive just means you got taken. Semantics yes but an important distinction.

More expensive. You are right in the distinction though, but all I know is that the R2m house was more expensive, I don’t know if it’s more valuable or if the buyer was taken. Generally speaking, I would hope the buyer didn’t massively overpay and this would imply more valuable too. I probably should have said “hopefully more valuable”. :)
 
It depends how you want to assess it.

If a R1m house costs you R7k per month in payments at 7%, is it cheaper or more expensive than paying R6k per month on a house in New Zealand that's R2m at 3% interest?
Your monthly payments may be lower because of interest but the price and debt were far higher.
In my assessment of things I evaluate both the total price and the monthly payments. Im buying not renting a house...

Also, R2mil in New Zealand gets you a piece of crap.

It’s more like R8mil to compare to an SA R2mil house.
 
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