Samsung Galaxy S2 or Iphone 4

[Fudzy]

http://versusio.com/en/samsung-galaxy-s-2-vs-apple-iphone-4-16gb

I assume this will end the polite discussions about the iPhone 4 vs the SGS2?

So the sites telling us that the Galaxy S2's battery power which sadly has not impressed nor suprised any of my mates who have them and have owned previous power hungry Android devices is better than the iPhone4's battery? Something which Apple fanboys have defended blindly.

I've played with the S2, if the 4S delivers the same performance as the iPad2 then I'm sorry in terms of speed etc, the iPhone 4S would be a better option. If you want a phone with a bigger display and as light as a sheet paper, get the S2.

 

[CoolBug]

Some of those comparisons are way off for the iPhone 4?

Can be updated over-the-air - No ... Um YES it can
Can be used as a WiFi hot spot - No ... again yes it can
Has WiFi - No ..... really? Yes it does..

Slightly more apps available - 425,000 - It has more than 500,000 apps now which on average I would say are better quality than Android apps.. But again let me leave subjectivity out of this..

Not sure where they get 400,000 android apps available from either.

It says the S2 doesn't have a back-illumintated sensor as well.. Don't think that's right..

It's 90% accurate, obviously the iPhone has wifi.

It also leaves out the Gorilla glass protection of the SGS2.

But there are many points there that are correct and might help with a decision like 3x faster internet, faster internet browser, removable battery, SD card expansion etc etc etc... those sort of things that Apple fans hate.

 

[Fudzy]

Some of those comparisons are way off for the iPhone 4?

Can be updated over-the-air - No ... Um YES it can

So you can upgrade to iOS5 untethered? I was arguing with a mate about this and he reckons you could only do it with a hack.

 

[game@holic]

A thread like this always ends badly. You have more people starting a "iOS vs Android war" than providing anything useful.

Best thing to do is make a list of what you want from your phone. Then you need to check whether each phone suports it.

Once you have selected the phone afer that, just check how much it would cost.

 

[Fudzy]

It also leaves out the Gorilla glass protection of the SGS2.

The iPhone has Gorilla glass too doesn't it?

 

[bwana]

So you can upgrade to iOS5 untethered? I was arguing with a mate about this and he reckons you could only do it with a hack.

To iOS5 untethered - no, from iOS5 - yes.

 

[CoolBug]

So the sites telling us that the Galaxy S2's battery power which sadly has not impressed nor suprised any of my mates who have them and have owned previous power hungry Android devices is better than the iPhone4's battery? Something which Apple fanboys have defended blindly.

I've played with the S2, if the 4S delivers the same performance as the iPad2 then I'm sorry in terms of speed etc, the iPhone 4S would be a better option. If you want a phone with a bigger display and as light as a sheet paper, get the S2.

This is about the iPhone 4, not the iPhone4S, the iPhone 4S is not available in this country on contract yet and you'd have to drop 11 000 - 15 000 depending on what model and where you go.

The GSG2 does have a good battery but like any other Lithium device you need quite a few charge cycles to see it's full potential.

Also, to get the most out of your battery, make sure the wifi & internet are switched off when you're not using them, this chews through your battery unnecessarily. Another thing you can do is not put the screen on full brightness during night time.

 

[fxit_man]

So you can upgrade to iOS5 untethered? I was arguing with a mate about this and he reckons you could only do it with a hack.

Not quite sure what you mean mate? There is no untethered jailbreak for iOS 5 out yet

 

[CoolBug]

The iPhone has Gorilla glass too doesn't it?

Rofl, not a chance.

http://blog.gsmarena.com/both-an-iphone-4s-and-an-galaxy-s-ii-take-the-plunge-only-one-survives/

 

[Fudzy]

Not quite sure what you mean mate? There is no untethered jailbreak for iOS 5 out yet

No jailbreaking, I meant a legit update from iOS4* to iOS5 without hooking it up to iTunes?

 

[Fudzy]

This is about the iPhone 4, not the iPhone4S, the iPhone 4S is not available in this country on contract yet and you'd have to drop 11 000 - 15 000 depending on what model and where you go.

The GSG2 does have a good battery but like any other Lithium device you need quite a few charge cycles to see it's full potential.

Also, to get the most out of your battery, make sure the wifi & internet are switched off when you're not using them, this chews through your battery unnecessarily. Another thing you can do is not put the screen on full brightness during night time.

Lol, dude I own a Desire... I live with crap battery life daily, all these snake oils and magic charging routines do nothing more than prove that they should have thought more about the power consumption and less about on-paper specs the manufacturers are battling with against each other. The Galaxy Note has done it right with a bigger battery.

As for the 4S not being comparable, it should be here at the end of the month, the guy is looking into a new phone. IINM you can't buy a normal iPhone4 at the moment until the 4S stock comes in anyway.

 

[Elimentals]

Lol, dude I own a Desire... I live with crap battery life daily, all these snake oils and magic charging routines do nothing more than prove that they should have thought more about the power consumption and less about on-paper specs the manufacturers are battling with against each other. The Galaxy Note has done it right with a bigger battery.

As for the 4S not being comparable, it should be here at the end of the month, the guy is looking into a new phone. IINM you can't buy a normal iPhone4 at the moment until the 4S stock comes in anyway.

Android's strength is its own weakness when it comes to battery life. It comes with the word Multitasking. All those widgets and applications you are running are helping themselves to you battery all the time. That said, with all my power tweaks, Juice defender, dark background limited widgets and all I get about 3 days of power out of my phones, yes including my Old Desire that lasted 3 to 4 days on single charge.

iPhone pretends to multitask by running limited agents(Not full applications), and quick suspend/restore of applications, that is also why iPhone can get away with a lot less CPU power than Android.

PS: I am not saying its a bad thing the way iPhone and Windows Phone 7 handles multitasking, seeing that most of the time the user will not even notice it, its just to point where the difference lies.

 

[CoolBug]

Lol, dude I own a Desire... I live with crap battery life daily, all these snake oils and magic charging routines do nothing more than prove that they should have thought more about the power consumption and less about on-paper specs the manufacturers are battling with against each other. The Galaxy Note has done it right with a bigger battery.

As for the 4S not being comparable, it should be here at the end of the month, the guy is looking into a new phone. IINM you can't buy a normal iPhone4 at the moment until the 4S stock comes in anyway.

I also have the ol Desire, I did notice a huge battery life increase when I rooted and flashed CM7, you should seriously consider that, it's made my phone wayy more usable, before with HTC crap running all the time, trying to use the phone as a GPS was laughable. Now I've packed away my Garmin and only use my phone, also because the maps are always up to date. I also got a car charger which helps a lot.

Edit: I'm glad newer Android phones are coming out with bigger batteries, closing in on the 2kma mark.

 

[Fudzy]

I also have the ol Desire, I did notice a huge battery life increase when I rooted and flashed CM7, you should seriously consider that, it's made my phone wayy more usable, before with HTC crap running all the time, trying to use the phone as a GPS was laughable. Now I've packed away my Garmin and only use my phone, also because the maps are always up to date. I also got a car charger which helps a lot.

Edit: I'm glad newer Android phones are coming out with bigger batteries, closing in on the 2kma mark.

CM; LeeDroid; MIUI and most recently Gingervillian have all offered mediocre power management options. The fact you have to root your phone and install custom firmware to make it work better tells me there is something intrinsically wrong with Android platform. And don't get me started on the fragmentation.

 

[iDenTiTy]

CM; LeeDroid; MIUI and most recently Gingervillian have all offered mediocre power management options. The fact you have to root your phone and install custom firmware to make it work better tells me there is something intrinsically wrong with Android platform. And don't get me started on the fragmentation.

I already posted a link to this, in this thread.

 

[CoolBug]

CM; LeeDroid; MIUI and most recently Gingervillian have all offered mediocre power management options. The fact you have to root your phone and install custom firmware to make it work better tells me there is something intrinsically wrong with Android platform. And don't get me started on the fragmentation.

I do not want to have a OS war.

I am giving facts about both operating systems.

In Android, if you want more usablity, you ROOT.
In IOS, if you want more usablity, you JAILBREAK.

(The difference is that ROOT gives you the ability to do anything to your phone so this is for slightly more advanced users, for example you can download an app that, at a tap of the screen can install a whole new version of the operating system, like CM, or make backups of all your apps & data)

Please try not to be so bias, I'm trying to give facts in order to make an informed decision, the choice is ultimately up to the chooser.

If you want an expensive, heavy brick like, small screened, simple and extremely fragile phone that is locked to iTunes, then go Apple iPhone 4, it also has 3 times slower internet, non replacable battery, worse camera & video camera, not customisable at all, has no SD card expansion, Apple is the way for you! An iPhone is like a mother trucking Unicorn!

This works for some people and those people love these limitations, for unknown reasons.

another feature that the SGS2 has over the iPhone 4 that probably hasn't been mentioned is the ability to play 1080p video flawlessly.

If we include the iPhone 4S then heck, why not include the Motorola RAZR Droid and the Galaxy Prime.

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/207799/20110902/samsung-galaxy-s2-iphone-5-apple-united-states.htm

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[MattyW]

CM; LeeDroid; MIUI and most recently Gingervillian have all offered mediocre power management options. The fact you have to root your phone and install custom firmware to make it work better tells me there is something intrinsically wrong with Android platform. And don't get me started on the fragmentation.

I don't think you can say thier is a problem with the platform purely because YOU had a problem on one device, I picked up my galaxy s2 about a month ago, still running stock OS and no power saving measures installed and I easily get 2 days out of a charge, could probably get 3 if I wanted.

 

[Fudzy]

I do not want to have a OS war.

I am giving facts about both operating systems.

In Android, if you want more usablity, you ROOT.
In IOS, if you want more usablity, you JAILBREAK.

(The difference is that ROOT gives you the ability to do anything to your phone so this is for slightly more advanced users, for example you can download an app that, at a tap of the screen can install a whole new version of the operating system, like CM, or make backups of all your apps & data)

Please try not to be so bias, I'm trying to give facts in order to make an informed dicision, the choice is ultimately up to the chooser.

If you want an expensive, heavy brick like, small screened, simple and extremely fragile phone that is locked to iTunes, then go Apple iPhone 4, it also has 3 times slower internet, non replacable battery, worse camera & video camera, not customisable at all, has no SD card expansion, Apple is the way for you! An iPhone is like a mother trucking Unicorn!

This works for some people and those people love these limitations, for unknown reasons.

another feature that the SGS2 has over the iPhone 4 that probably hasn't been mentioned is the ability to play 1080p video flawlessly.

If we include the iPhone 4S then heck, why not include the Motorola RAZR Droid and the Galaxy Prime.

Sent from my ASUS Transformer, rooted with Revolver ROM, 1.6GHz

The thread title says Galaxy S2 or iPhone 4. You can't buy an iPhone 4 from Apple in this country until the 4S comes out. Thus the reason why the 4S is really the option between the two now.

In terms of bias your post speaks loads. The iPhone just works, its not as finnicky or customisable as an Android alternative but it does (almost) all you need it to do.

You mention that the photo/video on an iPhone is poor, this might be of importance to the OP. From what do you draw this assumption? You can compare camera quality on gsmarena.com and I'd say the iPhone is up there, and no, I'm not talking about the 4S.

EDIT: Just to add, I think the Galaxy Note is a great phone, it's just too big. Make a Galaxy S3 with the same battery and features and I'd gladly consider it at my next upgrade.

 

[Fudzy]

I don't think you can say thier is a problem with the platform purely because YOU had a problem on one device, I picked up my galaxy s2 about a month ago, still running stock OS and no power saving measures installed and I easily get 2 days out of a charge, could probably get 3 if I wanted.

Do you actually use your phone? Every person I know that own S2s say they're daily chargers as well.

 

[CoolBug]

The thread title says Galaxy S2 or iPhone 4. You can't buy an iPhone 4 from Apple in this country until the 4S comes out. Thus the reason why the 4S is really the option between the two now.

In terms of bias your post speaks loads. The iPhone just works, its not as finnicky or customisable as an Android alternative but it does (almost) all you need it to do.

You mention that the photo/video on an iPhone is poor, this might be of importance to the OP. From what do you draw this assumption? You can compare camera quality on gsmarena.com and I'd say the iPhone is up there, and no, I'm not talking about the 4S.

I have yet to find any review that says the original iPhone 4 has better photo's or video than the SGS2. Not only that, there is youtube, and google, see for yourself which video is better between the 2 phones, youtube has many users uploading stuff from their phones, the same for the photos the phones take,

The iPhone 4S might be slightly better but that's like comparing Nikon to Cannon, if you buy a high end Cannon or Nikon, both will be extremely good with only slight advantages over the other.

PS: I was being slightly ironic about the bias and went off on a tangent

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